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Either you want to believe, Believe without evidence or don’t believe. No on knows either way. No god has ever been proven. This is why I dont believe the old or new testaments. Organized religions say god is a fact in human history. Visited Moses, sent Jesus, visited Mohammed or Joseph Smith.I have no belief as to the origin of the universe. I don't know.Is it your belief that the Universe just popped into existence from an ontological nothingness? Magic?
And sneakily and subtly over time Catholicism has gotten into science and studying the heavens and stars. Today Catholics believe Catholicism is pro science. They’ll forget what the church did to Bruno giordano when he suggested the earth wasn’t the center iPod the universe.They didn't "give it up". They were forced to abandon it, once better, secular ideas like scientific enlightenment and classical liberalism came along. Once again (and this is the theme for the last 2000 years), we progressed past those bad ideas not just in spite of religion, but in the face of strong, active opposition from religious people acting on their religion.I guess we're lucky you fine folks have given up burning people at the stake.
And the only reason they don't do it now is that they benefit from the gift of being born in a more enlightened age. Did the Bible change over time? Nope. Same Bible, but better culture. The culture they were born into changed, thanks to secular ideas. They can literally thank the abandonment of their religion for the current, better state of affairs. But they won't.
Still moving those goal posts, I see. LOL!In terms of defining what the gods can and cannot do, you need to take the first step and make a rational case for the existence of your gods.
By the way, the paragraph from the excerpt from my article should read:
That's akin to wondering if God could create a rock so heavy that even He couldn't lift it. God can't do that either. Divine omnipotence is not the power to do anything at all; rather, it's the power to do all things possible. This is not a limit on God's power. On the contrary, it's precisely because God is omnipotent that no rock too heavy for Him to lift could possibly exist in the first place, just like a hotel with an actually infinite number of rooms couldn't possibly exist in the first place. An actual infinity is a set containing an infinite number of elements, and in general, it's the set containing all possible quantity that's forever growing toward Infinity but never reaching Infinity. The distinction between potential infinities and actual infinities is ultimately a misnomer, as the "distinction" is actually the definition of the only kind of infinity that can exist outside of minds, namely, a potential infinity, which is a set with a finite number of elements at any given moment that is always increasing toward Infinity as the limit.
My revision of the clause changed the meaning of the phrase. There, that should do it. But I see that you're still going on about how the impossible should be possible for God. I almost can't believe I'm having to explain this to you again, but the impossible is not possible because the impossible is impossible: the impossible ≠ the possible. That's about as simple as I can make it for you. LOL!
I would like to clarify myself matematically, and if it is not acceptable then I will try with narrative.
Thesis is that every logic is circular. Logic is defined as something where your state S is a consequence of your previous state and also is a cause of your next state, the difference from your current state S to the next state is d. You number all the state's in your chain of logic in consecutive order like 1,2,3,...,n,... Your argument is A.
By this basic definition of logic, that is to reiterate the above, that it's discourse d from its current state S to its next state is determined by its current state S through an argument A, we are a simple first order ordinary differential equation:
dS/dn = A*S
and as per usual maths textbooks, the solution of this, that is the solution of every logic, through the Euler theorem, is a simple exponential function:
S(n) = exp(A*n)
The argument A of logic is the key. It is incorrect to assume that A is only real, because then we just have a cogwheel, no human thinking. Therefore A is a sum of a real component r and of imagination i, in other words A = r + i.
So, what is imagination? Imagination is something whose power changes reality. For example +1 is real, and so is -1. But you can't find anything that you can multiply with itself to get anything negative, so imagination is the square root of -1, in other words i = sqrt(-1).
Now, by the Tailor expansion principle, we know, that anything that has sqrt(-1) that is anything imaginary in its exponent is a cyclical object, running in circles, producing waves as its projected aspects, cosine and since.
S(n) = r*cos(n) + i*sin(n)
And none of the above can eliminate the imaginary i part of the logic argument A, no matter what A is and how variable it may be, the cyclical circular component of logic is always there in every solution.
To kill the circular nature of any human logic, you would need to formulate A in a way that it multiplies i with zero. But this would have to be a very exact zero. And very exact things don't exist in physical life, because to get to that accuracy we would need infinitely long time:
accuracy * time = Planck constant
Planck constant = 6.63*10^-34 Js
This is also known as Heisenberg principle, and the accuracy is the energy of existence of the concept, statistically its variance. In other words, the energy by which the Creator created it.
So human logic must always be curcular, and that is why Jesus has always said, that you must look at faith and authority, not logic, if you ever want to get somewhere.
Still moving those goal posts, I see. . . .
. . . Gods are unlimited. The impossible ≠ the possible even for the gods, therefore the gods are limited.
Says RingtoneGod cannot do the impossible because the impossible is, you know, impossible.
Your schoolboy tirades are funny.Still moving those goal posts, I see. . . .
. . . Gods are unlimited. The impossible ≠ the possible even for the gods, therefore the gods are limited.
You mindless ditz. The only thing that was changed in the following was one word. The rest of the paragraph is fine.
This is not a limitation on God's power. On the contrary, it's precisely because God is omnipotent that no rock too heavy for Him to lift could possibly exist in the first place, just like a hotel with an actually infinite number of rooms couldn't possibly exist in the first place.
Could implies an unintended contradiction; hence, couldn't, not could. I struck a preceding sentence from the original paragraph that was gratuitously confusing and changed the expression of the clause in the second sentence in the above, but forgot to change the expression of the phrasal in the sentence.
Goal posts were not moved, dummy. The word could was changed to couldn't to agree with the same friggin' idea that God cannot do the impossible because the impossible is, you know, impossible.
And you bloviated on for four paragraphs to circle back (a little Psaki speak) to your drooling stupidity that the impossible is possible.
You're fired. Now drop and give me 50!
The reason why I ignored the OP itself is because I have seen all the religious pap for over 40 years now, there is little left for me not to know anymore.
Religion runs on faith, that is all you have.
It was a Christian mob that destroyed the Library of Alexandria, literally setting back human development.
bookhaven.stanford.edu
But what was very real was the purging of all the intellectuals from Alexandria by fundamentalist Christian nutballs.It was a Christian mob that destroyed the Library of Alexandria, literally setting back human development.
That's a myth, you idiot.
The Library of Alexandria – destroyed by an angry mob with torches? Not very likely.
Why do little girls adore martyrs so much? Perhaps it’s preparation for marriage. In my elementary school, the book on Jeanne d’Arc was one of the most heavily worn and pawed over volumes in our small library, and my fingerprints are over every page, if the tattered book still exists at all. The...
I have no belief as to the origin of the universe. I don't know.
You do not know. You have grown so comfortable with lying to yourself that you managed to convince yourself that you do.So why are you on this thread talking smack to those who do know?
I would like to clarify myself matematically, and if it is not acceptable then I will try with narrative.
Thesis is that every logic is circular. Logic is defined as something where your state S is a consequence of your previous state and also is a cause of your next state, the difference from your current state S to the next state is d. You number all the state's in your chain of logic in consecutive order like 1,2,3,...,n,... Your argument is A.
By this basic definition of logic, that is to reiterate the above, that it's discourse d from its current state S to its next state is determined by its current state S through an argument A, we are a simple first order ordinary differential equation:
dS/dn = A*S
and as per usual maths textbooks, the solution of this, that is the solution of every logic, through the Euler theorem, is a simple exponential function:
S(n) = exp(A*n)
The argument A of logic is the key. It is incorrect to assume that A is only real, because then we just have a cogwheel, no human thinking. Therefore A is a sum of a real component r and of imagination i, in other words A = r + i.
So, what is imagination? Imagination is something whose power changes reality. For example +1 is real, and so is -1. But you can't find anything that you can multiply with itself to get anything negative, so imagination is the square root of -1, in other words i = sqrt(-1).
Now, by the Tailor expansion principle, we know, that anything that has sqrt(-1) that is anything imaginary in its exponent is a cyclical object, running in circles, producing waves as its projected aspects, cosine and since.
S(n) = r*cos(n) + i*sin(n)
And none of the above can eliminate the imaginary i part of the logic argument A, no matter what A is and how variable it may be, the cyclical circular component of logic is always there in every solution.
To kill the circular nature of any human logic, you would need to formulate A in a way that it multiplies i with zero. But this would have to be a very exact zero. And very exact things don't exist in physical life, because to get to that accuracy we would need infinitely long time:
accuracy * time = Planck constant
Planck constant = 6.63*10^-34 Js
This is also known as Heisenberg principle, and the accuracy is the energy of existence of the concept, statistically its variance. In other words, the energy by which the Creator created it.
So human logic must always be curcular, and that is why Jesus has always said, that you must look at faith and authority, not logic, if you ever want to get somewhere.
I would like to clarify myself matematically, and if it is not acceptable then I will try with narrative.
Thesis is that every logic is circular. Logic is defined as something where your state S is a consequence of your previous state and also is a cause of your next state, the difference from your current state S to the next state is d. You number all the state's in your chain of logic in consecutive order like 1,2,3,...,n,... Your argument is A.
By this basic definition of logic, that is to reiterate the above, that it's discourse d from its current state S to its next state is determined by its current state S through an argument A, we are a simple first order ordinary differential equation:
dS/dn = A*S
and as per usual maths textbooks, the solution of this, that is the solution of every logic, through the Euler theorem, is a simple exponential function:
S(n) = exp(A*n)
The argument A of logic is the key. It is incorrect to assume that A is only real, because then we just have a cogwheel, no human thinking. Therefore A is a sum of a real component r and of imagination i, in other words A = r + i.
So, what is imagination? Imagination is something whose power changes reality. For example +1 is real, and so is -1. But you can't find anything that you can multiply with itself to get anything negative, so imagination is the square root of -1, in other words i = sqrt(-1).
Now, by the Tailor expansion principle, we know, that anything that has sqrt(-1) that is anything imaginary in its exponent is a cyclical object, running in circles, producing waves as its projected aspects, cosine and since.
S(n) = r*cos(n) + i*sin(n)
And none of the above can eliminate the imaginary i part of the logic argument A, no matter what A is and how variable it may be, the cyclical circular component of logic is always there in every solution.
To kill the circular nature of any human logic, you would need to formulate A in a way that it multiplies i with zero. But this would have to be a very exact zero. And very exact things don't exist in physical life, because to get to that accuracy we would need infinitely long time:
accuracy * time = Planck constant
Planck constant = 6.63*10^-34 Js
This is also known as Heisenberg principle, and the accuracy is the energy of existence of the concept, statistically its variance. In other words, the energy by which the Creator created it.
So human logic must always be curcular, and that is why Jesus has always said, that you must look at faith and authority, not logic, if you ever want to get somewhere.
Okay, I think I actually see what you're getting at, but I did have to review the mathematics of sine and cosine relative to the Tailor expansion principle to get there. I was able to follow you up to that point from the post.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It seems to me that you're saying that the conclusion of any given argument is circularly embedded in the premise, albeit, in a universally overarching, metaphysical sense. Presumably, such an argument's conclusion would proceed from a valid premise and would entail a valid chain of discourse. I would happily agree with that as understood within the context of the Logos' authority; that is to say, one necessarily relies on the reliability of that authority by faith. But, then, we have no other alternative, as the laws of logic are incontrovertible. Hence, I have two caveats for the sake of clarity. The discourse itself is still linear, albeit, within that context, and one must faithfully observe the laws of logic in order to get to the Logos.
I would like to clarify myself matematically, and if it is not acceptable then I will try with narrative.
Thesis is that every logic is circular. Logic is defined as something where your state S is a consequence of your previous state and also is a cause of your next state, the difference from your current state S to the next state is d. You number all the state's in your chain of logic in consecutive order like 1,2,3,...,n,... Your argument is A.
By this basic definition of logic, that is to reiterate the above, that it's discourse d from its current state S to its next state is determined by its current state S through an argument A, we are a simple first order ordinary differential equation:
dS/dn = A*S
and as per usual maths textbooks, the solution of this, that is the solution of every logic, through the Euler theorem, is a simple exponential function:
S(n) = exp(A*n)
The argument A of logic is the key. It is incorrect to assume that A is only real, because then we just have a cogwheel, no human thinking. Therefore A is a sum of a real component r and of imagination i, in other words A = r + i.
So, what is imagination? Imagination is something whose power changes reality. For example +1 is real, and so is -1. But you can't find anything that you can multiply with itself to get anything negative, so imagination is the square root of -1, in other words i = sqrt(-1).
Now, by the Tailor expansion principle, we know, that anything that has sqrt(-1) that is anything imaginary in its exponent is a cyclical object, running in circles, producing waves as its projected aspects, cosine and since.
S(n) = r*cos(n) + i*sin(n)
And none of the above can eliminate the imaginary i part of the logic argument A, no matter what A is and how variable it may be, the cyclical circular component of logic is always there in every solution.
To kill the circular nature of any human logic, you would need to formulate A in a way that it multiplies i with zero. But this would have to be a very exact zero. And very exact things don't exist in physical life, because to get to that accuracy we would need infinitely long time:
accuracy * time = Planck constant
Planck constant = 6.63*10^-34 Js
This is also known as Heisenberg principle, and the accuracy is the energy of existence of the concept, statistically its variance. In other words, the energy by which the Creator created it.
So human logic must always be curcular, and that is why Jesus has always said, that you must look at faith and authority, not logic, if you ever want to get somewhere.
By the way, I surmised some years ago that what I call the Universal Principle of Identity, from which the laws of non-contradiction and the excluded middle are extrapolated, is the Logos.
I would like to clarify myself matematically, and if it is not acceptable then I will try with narrative.
Thesis is that every logic is circular. Logic is defined as something where your state S is a consequence of your previous state and also is a cause of your next state, the difference from your current state S to the next state is d. You number all the state's in your chain of logic in consecutive order like 1,2,3,...,n,... Your argument is A.
By this basic definition of logic, that is to reiterate the above, that it's discourse d from its current state S to its next state is determined by its current state S through an argument A, we are a simple first order ordinary differential equation:
dS/dn = A*S
and as per usual maths textbooks, the solution of this, that is the solution of every logic, through the Euler theorem, is a simple exponential function:
S(n) = exp(A*n)
The argument A of logic is the key. It is incorrect to assume that A is only real, because then we just have a cogwheel, no human thinking. Therefore A is a sum of a real component r and of imagination i, in other words A = r + i.
So, what is imagination? Imagination is something whose power changes reality. For example +1 is real, and so is -1. But you can't find anything that you can multiply with itself to get anything negative, so imagination is the square root of -1, in other words i = sqrt(-1).
Now, by the Tailor expansion principle, we know, that anything that has sqrt(-1) that is anything imaginary in its exponent is a cyclical object, running in circles, producing waves as its projected aspects, cosine and since.
S(n) = r*cos(n) + i*sin(n)
And none of the above can eliminate the imaginary i part of the logic argument A, no matter what A is and how variable it may be, the cyclical circular component of logic is always there in every solution.
To kill the circular nature of any human logic, you would need to formulate A in a way that it multiplies i with zero. But this would have to be a very exact zero. And very exact things don't exist in physical life, because to get to that accuracy we would need infinitely long time:
accuracy * time = Planck constant
Planck constant = 6.63*10^-34 Js
This is also known as Heisenberg principle, and the accuracy is the energy of existence of the concept, statistically its variance. In other words, the energy by which the Creator created it.
So human logic must always be curcular, and that is why Jesus has always said, that you must look at faith and authority, not logic, if you ever want to get somewhere.
By the way, I surmised some years ago that what I call the Universal Principle of Identity, from which the laws of non-contradiction and the excluded middle are extrapolated, is the Logos.
This is even more interesting.
Yes, the identity is a very dangerous problem.
OnCe the variance of something is matched, that is we apply as much energy to it as what it has without us, then the identities merge, and this merger is in a way that whichever of the two has a higher intensity, will eliminate the identity of the other one. This is how the devil takes souls.
This is how phosphorous glows in the dark.
And thus is why Neuro kinetic language works.
And so on.
A terrible bresking point of Creation as a whole, declared right at the beginning in genesis, in chapterc3, straight after chapters 1 and 2 to describe creation.
Every religion has to solve this problem. The identity problem when the deviations match, that is tge energies match, that is the egyptiin book of the dead or the Sanscrit Hinduism or God promising Jesus to Adam and Eve.
I would like to clarify myself matematically, and if it is not acceptable then I will try with narrative.
Thesis is that every logic is circular. Logic is defined as something where your state S is a consequence of your previous state and also is a cause of your next state, the difference from your current state S to the next state is d. You number all the state's in your chain of logic in consecutive order like 1,2,3,...,n,... Your argument is A.
By this basic definition of logic, that is to reiterate the above, that it's discourse d from its current state S to its next state is determined by its current state S through an argument A, we are a simple first order ordinary differential equation:
dS/dn = A*S
and as per usual maths textbooks, the solution of this, that is the solution of every logic, through the Euler theorem, is a simple exponential function:
S(n) = exp(A*n)
The argument A of logic is the key. It is incorrect to assume that A is only real, because then we just have a cogwheel, no human thinking. Therefore A is a sum of a real component r and of imagination i, in other words A = r + i.
So, what is imagination? Imagination is something whose power changes reality. For example +1 is real, and so is -1. But you can't find anything that you can multiply with itself to get anything negative, so imagination is the square root of -1, in other words i = sqrt(-1).
Now, by the Tailor expansion principle, we know, that anything that has sqrt(-1) that is anything imaginary in its exponent is a cyclical object, running in circles, producing waves as its projected aspects, cosine and since.
S(n) = r*cos(n) + i*sin(n)
And none of the above can eliminate the imaginary i part of the logic argument A, no matter what A is and how variable it may be, the cyclical circular component of logic is always there in every solution.
To kill the circular nature of any human logic, you would need to formulate A in a way that it multiplies i with zero. But this would have to be a very exact zero. And very exact things don't exist in physical life, because to get to that accuracy we would need infinitely long time:
accuracy * time = Planck constant
Planck constant = 6.63*10^-34 Js
This is also known as Heisenberg principle, and the accuracy is the energy of existence of the concept, statistically its variance. In other words, the energy by which the Creator created it.
So human logic must always be curcular, and that is why Jesus has always said, that you must look at faith and authority, not logic, if you ever want to get somewhere.
By the way, I surmised some years ago that what I call the Universal Principle of Identity, from which the laws of non-contradiction and the excluded middle are extrapolated, is the Logos.
This is even more interesting.
Yes, the identity is a very dangerous problem.
OnCe the variance of something is matched, that is we apply as much energy to it as what it has without us, then the identities merge, and this merger is in a way that whichever of the two has a higher intensity, will eliminate the identity of the other one. This is how the devil takes souls.
This is how phosphorous glows in the dark.
And thus is why Neuro kinetic language works.
And so on.
A terrible bresking point of Creation as a whole, declared right at the beginning in genesis, in chapterc3, straight after chapters 1 and 2 to describe creation.
Every religion has to solve this problem. The identity problem when the deviations match, that is tge energies match, that is the egyptiin book of the dead or the Sanscrit Hinduism or God promising Jesus to Adam and Eve.
I surmise that English is your second language. What is you native language?
