The Interesting Scoop on George Washington, Our First President!

Since when has owning slaves been honorable?

Since the Egyptians owned Hebrew slaves.

I guess when you didn't have heavy equipment, building massive constructions was impossible without them.

Several thousand years ago slavery was supposed to be a way to pay off your debt. Slaves were by law supposed to be treated fairly. That changed. Eventually it became ownership.

Wrong owning another person has never been honorable I'm kinda mad that you of all people would seek to excuse it as "everybody did it".

Its akin to going to a Jazz club seeing everyone smoke weed and use that as an excuse to why you slamming dope in your arm is an honorable thing

Slavery is a natural human condition. The only society where it was not practiced is ours. Historically that is simply true. Slaveowners in the South typically thought of it as a bad institution but the alternatives were not much better.
Quit projecting your own views on to other people from the past.
 
Did the article reference Von Steuben, he was gay, Franklin held him in high esteem. I read it, Von Steuben was discussed, his sexuality came way below his desire to learn of this odd bunch of colonists who believed in representative government.

It's not clear von Steuben was gay. The source quoted is Randy SHilts, who is a gay activist, thus it is more in the nature of propaganda than truth.

Another source, Von steuben's sexual orientation is not something Shilts dreamed up, it is well documented. No, I do not have all my history books from 26-30 years ago, many burned in a fire 2003.

Germany and the Americas: O-Z - Google Books

OK so you have nothing.
Thought so.
 
On 28 May, not far from the site of modern-day Pittsburgh, Washington's forces—a crew of 40 Virginians and a dozen allied Iroquois warriors—encountered a small French scouting force.

The battle lasted only fifteen minutes. Suffering only one casualty of their own, Washington's men killed a dozen Frenchmen and captured over twenty more. Victory quickly turned to nightmare, however; in the aftermath of the battle, Tanaghrisson—the leader of the Iroquois in Washington's contingent—led a massacre of the surrendered French prisoners. (Tanaghrisson had his own reasons for seeking to deliberately provoke war between the French, British, and Iroquois.) The first unarmed Frenchman killed was a noble officer, Joseph Coulon de Jumonville, who was murdered instantly via a tomahawk blow to the head. This killing of an unarmed prisoner of war was a war crime—a war crime for which George Washington, as commanding officer, technically bore responsibility.

George Washington: French & Indian War

As Tanaghrisson had hoped, the revelation of Jumonville's death caused an international scandal, quickly igniting a globe-spanning military conflict known in Europe as the Seven Years' War and in North America as the French and Indian War.
Sorry but that's responsive to the quotation, how?

He was an ambitious man with flaws that have been sanitized by history.

Not sure how your post proves that. Your statement about Washington is obviously untrue. Why do you think he was often portrayed as Cincinnatus?
 
I guess that is true. The question? What modern person would want to live in the in our country as is was first conceived?

Not I. Certainly no woman and no black. The country has changed but it has been overwhelmingly for the better and that was done by liberals. This does not mean that we yet have it right.

We are not even close.

What do you mean "as first conceived"? Do you mean the same technology, same medicine, same transportation, same economy? Of course not. I wouldn't want to live in this country as it was 30 years ago (and I did live in it!).
But if you mean the level of freedom enjoyed, the very limited federal government, the ability to move anywhere, do anything, be anyone, then yeah I'd do that in a second.

You really believe that? The ability to do anything, be anyone? Hell, most could not even afford a perfunctory education. But be happy we are heading back to those days and already we are seeing the results. More and more young folks cannot "be" anything and it is the lack of government regulations and controls that are bringing this to be.

You mean lack of regulations like Obamacare, which reward part time work at the expense of full time work? Or lack of regs like government student loans, that arent dischargable in bankruptcy and put a noose on people's necks?
Libs are so stupid.
 
Liberals should be pointing out the history of the Democratic Party.
Instead they want to tear down our founders and thus tear down whites in general

BTW, your Muslim buddies have slaves today, but not a word about it passes your lips.
 
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Total crap article without substance. Looks like it was written by someone 16 years old. Which is mentally about right for fags.

You must be one of those minority-hating LBJ Democrats.
 
It's not clear von Steuben was gay. The source quoted is Randy SHilts, who is a gay activist, thus it is more in the nature of propaganda than truth.

Another source, Von steuben's sexual orientation is not something Shilts dreamed up, it is well documented. No, I do not have all my history books from 26-30 years ago, many burned in a fire 2003.

Germany and the Americas: O-Z - Google Books

OK so you have nothing.
Thought so.

Try clicking the links:

Von Steuben was forced to leave Baden (a German state) where he was threatened with prosecution for homosexuality.[17] When he joined Washington's army at Valley Forge in February 1778 he was accompanied by two young European aides, one aged 17. Despite rumors about his parties, there never was an investigation of Von Steuben and he received a Congressional pension after the war.[18][19]

17 is Shilts, 18 & 19 these historians:

Thomas Adam (2005). Germany and the Americas: Culture, Politics, and History; a Multidisciplinary Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. p. 1007.
Jump up ^ Alexander M. Bielakowski (2013). Ethnic and Racial Minorities in the U.S. Military: An Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. pp. 667–69.
 
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Another source, Von steuben's sexual orientation is not something Shilts dreamed up, it is well documented. No, I do not have all my history books from 26-30 years ago, many burned in a fire 2003.

Germany and the Americas: O-Z - Google Books

OK so you have nothing.
Thought so.

Try clicking the links:

Von Steuben was forced to leave Baden (a German state) where he was threatened with prosecution for homosexuality.[17] When he joined Washington's army at Valley Forge in February 1778 he was accompanied by two young European aides, one aged 17. Despite rumors about his parties, there never was an investigation of Von Steuben and he received a Congressional pension after the war.[18][19]

17 is Shilts, 18 & 19 these historians:

Thomas Adam (2005). Germany and the Americas: Culture, Politics, and History; a Multidisciplinary Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. p. 1007.
Jump up ^ Alexander M. Bielakowski (2013). Ethnic and Racial Minorities in the U.S. Military: An Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. pp. 667–69.

Right. Nothing times 3 is still nothing. There are rumors you're gay too.
 
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Thought so.

Try clicking the links:

Von Steuben was forced to leave Baden (a German state) where he was threatened with prosecution for homosexuality.[17] When he joined Washington's army at Valley Forge in February 1778 he was accompanied by two young European aides, one aged 17. Despite rumors about his parties, there never was an investigation of Von Steuben and he received a Congressional pension after the war.[18][19]

17 is Shilts, 18 & 19 these historians:

Thomas Adam (2005). Germany and the Americas: Culture, Politics, and History; a Multidisciplinary Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. p. 1007.
Jump up ^ Alexander M. Bielakowski (2013). Ethnic and Racial Minorities in the U.S. Military: An Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. pp. 667–69.

Right. Nothing times 3 is still nothing. There are rumors you're gay too.

All the historians are lying, gotcha. :lol::lol::lol:
 
Try clicking the links:

Von Steuben was forced to leave Baden (a German state) where he was threatened with prosecution for homosexuality.[17] When he joined Washington's army at Valley Forge in February 1778 he was accompanied by two young European aides, one aged 17. Despite rumors about his parties, there never was an investigation of Von Steuben and he received a Congressional pension after the war.[18][19]

17 is Shilts, 18 & 19 these historians:

Thomas Adam (2005). Germany and the Americas: Culture, Politics, and History; a Multidisciplinary Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. p. 1007.
Jump up ^ Alexander M. Bielakowski (2013). Ethnic and Racial Minorities in the U.S. Military: An Encyclopedia. ABC-CLIO. pp. 667–69.

Right. Nothing times 3 is still nothing. There are rumors you're gay too.

All the historians are lying, gotcha. :lol::lol::lol:
You dont understand what constitutes evidence. Here's a hint: rumors are not facts.
 
Right. Nothing times 3 is still nothing. There are rumors you're gay too.

All the historians are lying, gotcha. :lol::lol::lol:
You dont understand what constitutes evidence. Here's a hint: rumors are not facts.

And what proof do you have on hand Washington led the troops in the Revolutionary War? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Von Steuben is in history as being gay, Washington is in history as leading the troops in 1776(.)
 
All the historians are lying, gotcha. :lol::lol::lol:
You dont understand what constitutes evidence. Here's a hint: rumors are not facts.

And what proof do you have on hand Washington led the troops in the Revolutionary War? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Von Steuben is in history as being gay, Washington is in history as leading the troops in 1776(.)

Like I said, you dont understand what constitutes evidence.
In the gay world I guess von Steuben is in history as being gay. For people not falling to ideology it remains a rumor only.
 
You dont understand what constitutes evidence. Here's a hint: rumors are not facts.

And what proof do you have on hand Washington led the troops in the Revolutionary War? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Von Steuben is in history as being gay, Washington is in history as leading the troops in 1776(.)

Like I said, you dont understand what constitutes evidence.
In the gay world I guess von Steuben is in history as being gay. For people not falling to ideology it remains a rumor only.

As is much of written history, though with thousands fighting, it makes sense a few were gay. I will leave the topic that causes discomfort to some with my gratitude that Washington didn't put saving face over success when it came down to rumors.
 
Liberals should be pointing out the history of the Democratic Party.
Instead they want to tear down our founders and thus tear down whites in general

BTW, your Muslim buddies have slaves today, but not a word about it passes your lips.
They vilify the founders and the founding, and yet say that the founders were leftists and the founding a leftist movement.
 

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