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Well, most "whites" originated in Europe and most "blacks" originated in Africa- I don't see how the truth can be avoided- class in the US is determined by income and made official with the Income Tax Code- race has always been apparent where there are different races- that ain't gonna change- income can change-Whites in Europe create racial categories and in Amerca class has been primarily determined by race. We are talking about America, not Africa or Europe. So lets not try that one.
NonsenseThe root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism.
blacks create their own problems
Black welfare moms for instance lead to fatherless hoodlums who create fatherless children of their own when they arent in jail
That's because Democrats are evil racist bigots. It's just their nature.The vast majority of white Americans had no ancestor buying/selling slaves, so stop with mass blanket generalizations. Black nuclear families were every bit intact as white families until about 1970.
No but they did have ancestors telling blacks to get in the back of the bus
/——-/ “The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.”The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.
When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.
The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.
During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.
Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.
Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape
This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.
Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.
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Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape | by William Spivey | Dialogue & Discourse | Medium
Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)
First of all, you moron, the number of slave owners was tiny as compared to the total population. And now the new gold standard of you Progs is to hold people responsible for the actions of generations past? What about the descendants of those who fought to free the slaves? You idiot.
Well, most "whites" originated in Europe and most "blacks" originated in Africa- I don't see how the truth can be avoided- class in the US is determined by income and made official with the Income Tax Code- race has always been apparent where there are different races- that ain't gonna change- income can change-Whites in Europe create racial categories and in Amerca class has been primarily determined by race. We are talking about America, not Africa or Europe. So lets not try that one.
You can't have been clear because you don't have a clue.you are still talking in riddlesYour beliefs are on display here daily.
unlike you I have been clear about what is wrong with black people and what they must do to fix it
you on the other hand just making excuses to prolong their misery
The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. We begin by fixing this. And until whites do the work necessary we will continue to have problems.
You keep repeating that and I keep telling you that you’re wrongThe root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism.
No. It's MOSTLY income- what you want to believe ain't really- education determines income and being in the right place at the right time (see Bill Gates for evidence, or Walt Disney)- educating ones self only has to have reading comprehension- dictionaries are abundant.Class in this country has largely been determined by race.
No. It is not. The root cause is black failure.Again, the root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. So maybe you work on cleaning that up and watch how all the other things dramatically decrease.You need to clean your house, before blaming others. I know it’s easier to blame whitey.The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.
When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.
The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.
During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.
Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.
Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape
This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.
Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.
View attachment 437108
Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape | by William Spivey | Dialogue & Discourse | Medium
Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)
Black America has high percentages of every societal dysfunction. Crime, illiteracy, illegitimacy, government dependency, drugs, abortion, failing schools, unemployment, decrepit neighborhoods, corrupt politicians, corrupt police departments, etc.
And besides, I’m still waiting for your gratitude for my ancestors who fought and died to liberate your ancestors. Well?
Now you have to buss tables for minimum wage.
Did someone put a gun to your head?
And, for the record, you BUS a table. Buss is a synonym of Kiss. So, if you decide to 'buss a table' it could cost you your job.
Before LBJ passed his Great Society Bill Black Americans had had the strongest family bond in the US. Black American women were less likely to have a baby out of wedlock than any other race in America but the BlackS do have a single parent homes with 8 of 10 Blacks born in America are born without fathers and traitors to their race as Jackson and Sharpner are out there to blame everyone but the guilty for their problems. But 60 years latter they are still in a democrat shit hole and still voting democrat who have done nothing but kept them there with that same old promase. LBJ said 200 years and I'm beggining to think he was right.The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.
When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.
The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.
During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.
Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.
Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape
This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.
Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.
View attachment 437108
Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape | by William Spivey | Dialogue & Discourse | Medium
Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)
How can blacks succeed in society when they are illiterate? Blaming whitey when black school districts are run by blacks in cities run by blacks, is dumb. Black academic excellence occurred when blacks were truly subject to discrimination, unlike today.It's nice to read an intelligent post.It is not wrong to study history, as it gives us a fuller understanding of where and why we are in our present condition as a nation. This OP describes how it came to be that fathers were allowed to repudiate their natural obligations to their children, treat them as property, and disrespect and rape their children's mothers, some of the time committing adultery against their legal wives in the process. There is no reason to conceal this lapse in morality and every reason to discuss it in context of how it has contributed to the current problem of so many children of all races growing up in single-parent homes.
We have to talk to, and about, those folks who are not raising their children: the absentees, not so much the people who actually are present in the home doing the work of childraising. We also have to talk to the teenagers and young adults about how to be a responsible person with respect to their sex lives. I know that some people oppose this, and they are nothing short of creepy.
The people who insist on talking about "black fatherless families" are just trying to cause racial division in our country for their own ugly and selfish purposes. Frankly, they don't give two shits about a black kid except to wail about abortion and blame black women.
I suppose those who once worked making glass could choose welfare.
How do you feel, that back in the same time that black slaves were coming to the colonies, that white people were being enslaved in Africa?The descendants of the same people who would break up black families by selling them are today the loudest talking people trying to diss the black community about single parent families.
When people start talking about race, there are just some simple realities that cannot be denied. If you are white and don't like how you are portrayed, start thinking about how unpleasant it really is for us who are not white to be portrayed as weak inferior people who got conquered by a supposedly superior race and culture. It is not a pleasant subject. For this to end we all must face the unpleasantness.
The doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem comes from European civil law. It means; “That which is brought forth follows the belly.” This principle determined the legal status of children born by slave women in the America as well as other English or European colonies In colonial law, the partus doctrine justified enslavement, the indigenous people of the Americas and of the Africans imported to various European colonies personal property of those who imported them.
During the time American was a colony, this doctrine established de facto and de jure slavery for all children born to female slaves. Partus sequitur ventrem exempted the father from his obligations to children he fathered by slaves thereby creating the ability for slaveowners to have their way with enslaved women. Under this doctrine the biological father had no paternal responsibility to any child born to a slave woman. Because of this the slaver was provided the right to profit from exploiting the labor of children born to slaves. It gave the slaver the ability to sell children by taking them away from their biological parents. Partus sequitur ventrem was the doctrine that created the first family separation policy in what is now America.
Despite the claims of Africans selling each other, the doctrine of Partus sequitur ventrem does not appear to be a part of the system of African slavery.
Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape
This was the legal doctrine that made any child of an American female slave a slave as well. It meant any white fathers had no financial responsibility for their progeny. They were free to rape their slaves at will as there were no laws against that either. With no concern for any children that might come from the forced union. In fact, there was a market for mulatto and octaroon children who would be purchased to work as domestics. Some owners (Thomas Jefferson) used their half-white slaves as their concubines, finding them more attractive the closer they were to white. Sally Hemings was Jefferson’s wife’s half-sister, the product of her father raping a slave. Then again the master might sell their offspring to keep the peace with their wives who might be annoyed at little slave children running around who favor their husbands.
Not talked about in proper society were the children of free white women and black slaves. White women who weren’t sure what color the child might be could get a legal abortion those days. “Cottonwood” was a remedy known to slaves who sometimes refused to have children after being raped or as often as the masters would like. Some women would be forced to have over a dozen children if they survived as death during childbirth was relatively common. The rare slave would be offered their freedom if they produced enough children. Sometimes the dark child of a white woman was abandoned or given away. Usually just sold off although technically they were legally free.
View attachment 437108
Partus Sequitur Ventrem — The Rule That Perpetrated Slavery And Legalized Rape | by William Spivey | Dialogue & Discourse | Medium
Partus sequitur ventrem legal definition of Partus sequitur ventrem (thefreedictionary.com)
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it is funny to watch conservatives yelling and yapping about planned parenthood and then turning around blaming it all on race...
Hatred and ignorance does you no favors.it is funny to watch conservatives yelling and yapping about planned parenthood and then turning around blaming it all on race...
Their weirdness about sex pairs well with their weirdness about race. If you read between the lines, you realize that these "conservatives" actually want these problems to continue. I don't know what sort of "victory" they seek, but they same to like human suffering a lot, as long as they are not the ones experiencing it.
Sorry but that weak argument ain't going to cut it. Whites control the lawmaking and policymaking bodies in this country. Stop electing racists to make laws or implement policy.You can't have been clear because you don't have a clue.you are still talking in riddlesYour beliefs are on display here daily.
unlike you I have been clear about what is wrong with black people and what they must do to fix it
you on the other hand just making excuses to prolong their misery
The root cause of the problems blacks face is white racism. We begin by fixing this. And until whites do the work necessary we will continue to have problems.
Let's say, for a moment, that white racism is the root cause to all problems facing Black Americans. We won't address Hispanic racism, or Asian racism, etc.
Is it enough for a White person in America to just NOT be a racist? Do I, as a White Person, have to exert control over the thoughts and feelings of every other White Person in America?
Do you, as a Black Person, have the reciprocal power to control every other Black Person in America?
I don't know any illiterate blacks.How can blacks succeed in society when they are illiterate? Blaming whitey when black school districts are run by blacks in cities run by blacks, is dumb. Black academic excellence occurred when blacks were truly subject to discrimination, unlike today.It's nice to read an intelligent post.It is not wrong to study history, as it gives us a fuller understanding of where and why we are in our present condition as a nation. This OP describes how it came to be that fathers were allowed to repudiate their natural obligations to their children, treat them as property, and disrespect and rape their children's mothers, some of the time committing adultery against their legal wives in the process. There is no reason to conceal this lapse in morality and every reason to discuss it in context of how it has contributed to the current problem of so many children of all races growing up in single-parent homes.
We have to talk to, and about, those folks who are not raising their children: the absentees, not so much the people who actually are present in the home doing the work of childraising. We also have to talk to the teenagers and young adults about how to be a responsible person with respect to their sex lives. I know that some people oppose this, and they are nothing short of creepy.
The people who insist on talking about "black fatherless families" are just trying to cause racial division in our country for their own ugly and selfish purposes. Frankly, they don't give two shits about a black kid except to wail about abortion and blame black women.
Several years ago, Project Baltimore began an investigation of Baltimore’s school system. What they found was an utter disgrace. In 19 of Baltimore’s 39 high schools, out of 3,804 students, only 14 of them, or less than 1%, were proficient in math. In 13 of Baltimore’s high schools, not a single student scored proficient in math. In five Baltimore City high schools, not a single student scored proficient in math or reading. Despite these academic deficiencies, about 70% of the students graduate and are conferred a high school diploma — a fraudulent high school diploma.
The Detroit Public Schools Community District scored the lowest in the nation compared to 26 other urban districts for reading and mathematics at the fourth- and eighth-grade levels. A recent video captures some of this miseducation in Milwaukee high schools: In two city high schools, only one student tested proficient in math and none are proficient in English. Yet, the schools spent a full week learning about “systemic racism” and “Black Lives Matter activism.” By the way, a Nov. 19, 2020, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel article asks: “How many Black teachers did you have? I’ve only had two.” The article concludes, “For future Black students, that number needs to go up.” New York City is one of many school systems in the United States set to roll out Black Lives Matter-themed lesson plans. According to the NYC Department of Education, teachers will delve into “systemic racism,” police brutality and white privilege in their classrooms.
Should we blame this education tragedy on racial discrimination or claim that it is a legacy of slavery? Dr. Thomas Sowell’s research in “Education: Assumptions Versus History” documents academic excellence at Baltimore’s Frederick Douglass High School and others. This academic excellence occurred during the late 1800s to mid-1900s, an era when blacks were much poorer than today and faced gross racial discrimination. Frederick Douglass High School of yesteryear produced many distinguished alumni, such as Thurgood Marshall and Cab Calloway, and several judges, congressmen and civil rights leaders. Frederick Douglass High School was second in the nation in black Ph.Ds. among its alumni.
Black Education Tragedy Is New
