The left destroys everything, even pretty will not be tolerated.

[martybegan]

I'm not going to start slamming the Right for this--in general, we don't think about the message it sends.

What's so terrible about whatever message is being sent with this picture?

Some girls like being girly. Stop trying to make your vision of womanhood the only vision of womanhood.

It's my opinion. Sure I played dress up and loved wearing a plastic tiara and pretending to be a princess when I was 5, walking around in my mother's silver dancin shoes.
I don't know what boys like to dress up as.
It is a whole different thing to turn female attractiveness into a spectacle. It is everywhere. Make men wear tight slinky evening clothes that show every bump and curve and 5 inch heels. No? Why not? Women are expected to.

That’s what the left wants. No difference between men and women. Even though they are two completely different beings. You can watch the Mr Universe thing. Have at it.

Body builders are gross. It is certainly not the equivalent of a beauty pageant.

It absolutely is. It is the display of stereotypical male qualities visually displayed. It is a bunch of peacocks on display in speedos!

Maybe in some cultures, but I always thought the "strongest man" guys were better examples of male strength.

 

[Tresha91203]

What's so terrible about whatever message is being sent with this picture?

Some girls like being girly. Stop trying to make your vision of womanhood the only vision of womanhood.

It's my opinion. Sure I played dress up and loved wearing a plastic tiara and pretending to be a princess when I was 5, walking around in my mother's silver dancin shoes.
I don't know what boys like to dress up as.
It is a whole different thing to turn female attractiveness into a spectacle. It is everywhere. Make men wear tight slinky evening clothes that show every bump and curve and 5 inch heels. No? Why not? Women are expected to.

That’s what the left wants. No difference between men and women. Even though they are two completely different beings. You can watch the Mr Universe thing. Have at it.

Body builders are gross. It is certainly not the equivalent of a beauty pageant.

It absolutely is. It is the display of stereotypical male qualities visually displayed. It is a bunch of peacocks on display in speedos!

Maybe in some cultures, but I always thought the "strongest man" guys were better examples of male strength.

No. The strong men in those competitions are unwilling to do the beauty pageant part of the show. Mr America, like Ms America, is about looks.

 

[Roudy]

Miss America goes woke: No more swimsuit competition at pageant

What’s next for the SJW crowd? Make pretty girls wear burkas? How late my before a tranny gets in there?

They don't want to be considered a pageant anymore. They are now judging only the inner beauty of women. Why not just hold the contest over the radio and get it over with.

 

[martybegan]

It's my opinion. Sure I played dress up and loved wearing a plastic tiara and pretending to be a princess when I was 5, walking around in my mother's silver dancin shoes.
I don't know what boys like to dress up as.
It is a whole different thing to turn female attractiveness into a spectacle. It is everywhere. Make men wear tight slinky evening clothes that show every bump and curve and 5 inch heels. No? Why not? Women are expected to.

That’s what the left wants. No difference between men and women. Even though they are two completely different beings. You can watch the Mr Universe thing. Have at it.

Body builders are gross. It is certainly not the equivalent of a beauty pageant.

It absolutely is. It is the display of stereotypical male qualities visually displayed. It is a bunch of peacocks on display in speedos!

Maybe in some cultures, but I always thought the "strongest man" guys were better examples of male strength.

No. The strong men in those competitions are unwilling to do the beauty pageant part of the show. Mr America, like Ms America, is about looks.

I agree Mr. america is about looks, but a bodybuilding competition is a very specific judging plate, where Miss America is more a jack of all trades type thing (limited jacks of course)

I would think the equivalent for men would be the middle of the road sports like soccer and baseball, where men of average build compete and are used as examples. I discount football and basketball, because like bodybuilding, they tend towards a very specific and outlier body type.

 

[Some Guy]

The Miss America pageant can do whatever it wants. I don't care. Never watched it before and will continue to not watch it.

Within the larger context of female empowerment, i am confused. I've seen/heard it's empowering for women to do what they want without being shamed for it: like doing porn, walking around topless in a "slut walk" or being promiscuous in their sex life. This (and others and other things) suggests it's the opposite: that dressing and appearing modestly as not to be viewed strictly for your physical appearance is what female empowerment is. Which is it?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Miss America goes woke: No more swimsuit competition at pageant

What’s next for the SJW crowd? Make pretty girls wear burkas? How late my before a tranny gets in there?

They don't want to be considered a pageant anymore. They are now judging only the inner beauty of women. Why not just hold the contest over the radio and get it over with.

You know it’s going to become a victim fest. In two years the only women eligible to be Miss America will be 300+ pound black girls with a missing limb and a twitchy eye.

 

[Tresha91203]

That’s what the left wants. No difference between men and women. Even though they are two completely different beings. You can watch the Mr Universe thing. Have at it.

Body builders are gross. It is certainly not the equivalent of a beauty pageant.

It absolutely is. It is the display of stereotypical male qualities visually displayed. It is a bunch of peacocks on display in speedos!

Maybe in some cultures, but I always thought the "strongest man" guys were better examples of male strength.

No. The strong men in those competitions are unwilling to do the beauty pageant part of the show. Mr America, like Ms America, is about looks.

I agree Mr. america is about looks, but a bodybuilding competition is a very specific judging plate, where Miss America is more a jack of all trades type thing (limited jacks of course)

I would think the equivalent for men would be the middle of the road sports like soccer and baseball, where men of average build compete and are used as examples. I discount football and basketball, because like bodybuilding, they tend towards a very specific and outlier body type.

Ms. America is not full of women with "average builds." They are both visual charicatures of the ideal form: birthing hips and nursing boobs on one end displaying the perceived ability to bear and raise children, bulging muscles and control (the poses routine) displaying the ability to protect and provide for those children. They are the same primal view of good mates.

 

[martybegan]

Body builders are gross. It is certainly not the equivalent of a beauty pageant.

It absolutely is. It is the display of stereotypical male qualities visually displayed. It is a bunch of peacocks on display in speedos!

Maybe in some cultures, but I always thought the "strongest man" guys were better examples of male strength.

No. The strong men in those competitions are unwilling to do the beauty pageant part of the show. Mr America, like Ms America, is about looks.

I agree Mr. america is about looks, but a bodybuilding competition is a very specific judging plate, where Miss America is more a jack of all trades type thing (limited jacks of course)

I would think the equivalent for men would be the middle of the road sports like soccer and baseball, where men of average build compete and are used as examples. I discount football and basketball, because like bodybuilding, they tend towards a very specific and outlier body type.

Ms. America is not full of women with "average builds." They are both visual charicatures of the ideal form: birthing hips and nursing boobs on one end displaying the perceived ability to bear and raise children, bulging muscles and control (the poses routine) displaying the ability to protect and provide for those children. They are the same primal view of good mates.

Most Miss america contestants are middling views of beauty. there have been studies to show that taking a composite of a bunch of faces results in a more pleasing face than any one given face.

Averageness - Wikipedia

Bodybuilding on the other hand is an example of the extremes of the human form.

Compare Miss America contestants to Brad Pitt and George Clooney, not to Mr Universe contestants.

 

[OldLady]

Let's have Mr. America and Mr. Universe and 3 and 4 year old boys competing in the Young Mr. New York beauty pageants, all wearing a tailored suit and then in a tiny little bathing suit. Get that hair styled just right. Muscles, great ass, I'm picturing some pleasant evenings watching these competitions.

Why is it only women? We know why. That's why I don't like them.

It's hard to argue with biology. In general, men like to look at women and women like men looking at them. There are differences in degree, but it's almost universally true. Even in the cultures that by law hide a woman's appearance, it's because men like to look at women and women like men looking at them.

Check the magazine racks. Women's magazines are all about how to be more attractive. Men's magazines are all about pictures of pretty women.

Yeah, I know. Women aren't solely ornamental or primarily ornamental, but men and women both have bought into that for centuries.

 

[BlackSand]

It all reminds me of the Mad Men episode where the little girl comes in wearing the dry cleaning bag over her head.
The mother immediately fusses at her ... Tells her that if she finds the clothes that were in that bag on the closet floor the little girl is in big trouble.

Watching it ... Most people immediately think about the suffocation risk involved with a child putting a plastic bag over their head.
If you wallow too long in yesterday ... Tomorrow will leave you panhandling on the curb ...

.​

 

[martybegan]

Let's have Mr. America and Mr. Universe and 3 and 4 year old boys competing in the Young Mr. New York beauty pageants, all wearing a tailored suit and then in a tiny little bathing suit. Get that hair styled just right. Muscles, great ass, I'm picturing some pleasant evenings watching these competitions.

Why is it only women? We know why. That's why I don't like them.

It's hard to argue with biology. In general, men like to look at women and women like men looking at them. There are differences in degree, but it's almost universally true. Even in the cultures that by law hide a woman's appearance, it's because men like to look at women and women like men looking at them.

Check the magazine racks. Women's magazines are all about how to be more attractive. Men's magazines are all about pictures of pretty women.

Yeah, I know. Women aren't solely ornamental or primarily ornamental, but men and women both have bought into that for centuries.

And if women want to dress up and show off, why is that an issue to you?

It's the same thing with any controlling personality, "people need to like what I like OR ELSE!!!"

 

[OldLady]

Miss America goes woke: No more swimsuit competition at pageant

What’s next for the SJW crowd? Make pretty girls wear burkas? How late my before a tranny gets in there?

For the first time in its history the Miss America Pageant (soon to be called Competition instead of Pageant) ...
Is now run not only all by women ... But also all former Miss Americas.

Gretchen Carlson (former Miss America) clearly indicated that there will no longer be as strong of an emphasis on
Physical appearance as part of the competition.

They wanted to make sure the event includes women who may not think they are appealing enough for the swimsuit competition.
They want to get away from the idea of basing a woman's value on her appearance alone.

It's their competition ... They can handle it any way they want.
If you disagree ... You don't have to watch or sponsor the event.

.​

Agreed. They are perfectly free to Get Woke and Go Broke like the NFL, ESPN, StarBucks, Dick's Sporting Goods...

It's too bad you LW loons do not adopt the same attitude of tolerance towards folks with whom you disagree. Nobody on the right is planning a die in or kneel in or twitter mob to completely destroy these businesses. We just want to opt out of participating. How about you calmly doing the same instead of trying to destroy rightwing organizations?

Dick's isn't going broke.

Just a couple of months ago the Dick’s Sporting Goods chief executive worried that his decision to yank assault rifles and ammunition from store shelves would have customers running for the exits.
The move — coming in the wake of the Parkland school shooting — “won’t be positive from a sales and traffic standpoint,” Stack said in March after gun enthusiasts threatened to boycott the chain’s 720 stores.
Stack, in a bold move, also raised the age to buy firearms to 21 from 18.
But on Wednesday, Dick’s reported the damage wasn’t nearly as severe as feared — as the chain beat Wall Street expectations.
After the surprisingly good results, shares of the Pittsburgh chain’s shares shot up 26 percent, to close at $38.35.
Its shares are up 21 percent since it announced its gun restrictions on Feb. 28.
“They were concerned that losing the gun business would cost them, but they are making it up by selling other stuff,” Susquehanna Financial Group analyst Sam Poser told The Post. “Whatever their concerns were, they didn’t come to fruition.”
Revenue in the three months ended May 5 rose 4.6 percent, to $1.91 billion, while profit increased 3.2 percent, to $60.1 million. At the same time, Dick’s raised its profit estimate for the year.
https://nypost.com/2018/05/30/assault-rifle-ban-didnt-hurt-sales-at-dicks-sporting-goods/

 

[OldLady]

Let's have Mr. America and Mr. Universe and 3 and 4 year old boys competing in the Young Mr. New York beauty pageants, all wearing a tailored suit and then in a tiny little bathing suit. Get that hair styled just right. Muscles, great ass, I'm picturing some pleasant evenings watching these competitions.

Why is it only women? We know why. That's why I don't like them.

They compete in Speedos at Mr America and it's all about looks!

Never heard of it.

 

[OldLady]

Let's have Mr. America and Mr. Universe and 3 and 4 year old boys competing in the Young Mr. New York beauty pageants, all wearing a tailored suit and then in a tiny little bathing suit. Get that hair styled just right. Muscles, great ass, I'm picturing some pleasant evenings watching these competitions.

Why is it only women? We know why. That's why I don't like them.

It's hard to argue with biology. In general, men like to look at women and women like men looking at them. There are differences in degree, but it's almost universally true. Even in the cultures that by law hide a woman's appearance, it's because men like to look at women and women like men looking at them.

Check the magazine racks. Women's magazines are all about how to be more attractive. Men's magazines are all about pictures of pretty women.

Yeah, I know. Women aren't solely ornamental or primarily ornamental, but men and women both have bought into that for centuries.

And if women want to dress up and show off, why is that an issue to you?

It's the same thing with any controlling personality, "people need to like what I like OR ELSE!!!"

Women aren't solely ornamental or primarily ornamental. Miss America and Miss Universe and the fifty million beauty pageants around the country for girls and women emphasize that.
So no, I don't like them. I don't know where I said people need to like what I like OR ELSE. Isn't this a board for expressing opinions?

 

[OldLady]

Miss America goes woke: No more swimsuit competition at pageant

What’s next for the SJW crowd? Make pretty girls wear burkas? How late my before a tranny gets in there?

Make a competing contest where you parade a bunch of whores. Write to Trump for startup funding.

What a jerk. Women who wear swimsuits are not whores.

The whole thread is a complaint that we won’t see a few women in bikini’s for a few minutes. You prudes would enjoy a parade of whores more, right? Or there’s plenty of free porn out there for you bunch of weirdos.

Women walking around in swimsuits is not porn.

The complaint is the SJW's are again invading another institution and fucking with it.

the SJW's are again invading another institution and fucking with it.
Who is fucking with it? It is being operated by former Miss America's. Women. They have that right.

 

[OldLady]

I'm not going to start slamming the Right for this--in general, we don't think about the message it sends.

What's so terrible about whatever message is being sent with this picture?

Some girls like being girly. Stop trying to make your vision of womanhood the only vision of womanhood.

It's my opinion. Sure I played dress up and loved wearing a plastic tiara and pretending to be a princess when I was 5, walking around in my mother's silver dancin shoes.
I don't know what boys like to dress up as.
It is a whole different thing to turn female attractiveness into a spectacle. It is everywhere. Make men wear tight slinky evening clothes that show every bump and curve and 5 inch heels. No? Why not? Women are expected to.

That’s what the left wants. No difference between men and women. Even though they are two completely different beings. You can watch the Mr Universe thing. Have at it.

Body builders are gross. It is certainly not the equivalent of a beauty pageant.

It absolutely is. It is the display of stereotypical male qualities visually displayed. It is a bunch of peacocks on display in speedos!

Is that on primetime tv on one of the major channels? I've never seen it.

 

[Roudy]

Miss America goes woke: No more swimsuit competition at pageant

What’s next for the SJW crowd? Make pretty girls wear burkas? How late my before a tranny gets in there?

They don't want to be considered a pageant anymore. They are now judging only the inner beauty of women. Why not just hold the contest over the radio and get it over with.

You know it’s going to become a victim fest. In two years the only women eligible to be Miss America will be 300+ pound black girls with a missing limb and a twitchy eye.

Maybe the swimsuit competition is another form of white privilege and oppression of minorities, and we just don't get it.

 

[OldLady]

I'm not going to start slamming the Right for this--in general, we don't think about the message it sends.

What's so terrible about whatever message is being sent with this picture?

Some girls like being girly. Stop trying to make your vision of womanhood the only vision of womanhood.

It's my opinion. Sure I played dress up and loved wearing a plastic tiara and pretending to be a princess when I was 5, walking around in my mother's silver dancin shoes.
I don't know what boys like to dress up as.
It is a whole different thing to turn female attractiveness into a spectacle. It is everywhere. Make men wear tight slinky evening clothes that show every bump and curve and 5 inch heels. No? Why not? Women are expected to.

That’s what the left wants. No difference between men and women. Even though they are two completely different beings. You can watch the Mr Universe thing. Have at it.

What the left wants is for men to stop viewing women as sex objects, and that is so pervasive in society that we don't even see it--what women wear and what is considered attractive is so telling when compared to the comfortable and sensible clothing men wear. (Okay, the neckties must suck, I'll give you that.)

Sorry, but biology is biology. How about just trying to stop us from acting like women are sex objects when the situation calls for it?

If a woman with a short cut top and a nice rack walks by, I'm gonna glance, and think "nice rack", you ain't gonna stop that.

LOL No one is trying to stop you from that. I know how to look, too, when a particularly nice male ass walks by. You aren't getting my meaning at all.

 

[Moonglow]

Let's have Mr. America and Mr. Universe and 3 and 4 year old boys competing in the Young Mr. New York beauty pageants, all wearing a tailored suit and then in a tiny little bathing suit. Get that hair styled just right. Muscles, great ass, I'm picturing some pleasant evenings watching these competitions.

Why is it only women? We know why. That's why I don't like them.

They compete in Speedos at Mr America and it's all about looks!

and flinching buttocks..

 

[Tresha91203]

It absolutely is. It is the display of stereotypical male qualities visually displayed. It is a bunch of peacocks on display in speedos!

Maybe in some cultures, but I always thought the "strongest man" guys were better examples of male strength.

No. The strong men in those competitions are unwilling to do the beauty pageant part of the show. Mr America, like Ms America, is about looks.

I agree Mr. america is about looks, but a bodybuilding competition is a very specific judging plate, where Miss America is more a jack of all trades type thing (limited jacks of course)

I would think the equivalent for men would be the middle of the road sports like soccer and baseball, where men of average build compete and are used as examples. I discount football and basketball, because like bodybuilding, they tend towards a very specific and outlier body type.

Ms. America is not full of women with "average builds." They are both visual charicatures of the ideal form: birthing hips and nursing boobs on one end displaying the perceived ability to bear and raise children, bulging muscles and control (the poses routine) displaying the ability to protect and provide for those children. They are the same primal view of good mates.

Most Miss america contestants are middling views of beauty. there have been studies to show that taking a composite of a bunch of faces results in a more pleasing face than any one given face.

Averageness - Wikipedia

Bodybuilding on the other hand is an example of the extremes of the human form.

Compare Miss America contestants to Brad Pitt and George Clooney, not to Mr Universe contestants.

I get what you're saying and I see it, too. Symmetry is a definite aspect of beauty on both sides. I always saw these as kind of primitive mating rituals, myself.