LordBrownTrout
Diamond Member
O outspent McCain 3-1. It wasn't 8-1 in WI. Unions shuffled in about twenty million.
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Need some cheese with that whine, Drama Queen?
The taxpayers won. Of course you see that as a bad thing.
Government employees who belong to unions are taxpayers too, genius
Since I helped you with your language skills maybe you could find it in your heart to stop with the personal attacks and attempting to curtail my efforts to debate.
Channeling Willow Tree is not the best way to prove you have anything intelligent to post, BTW.
Government employees who belong to unions are taxpayers too, genius
Government employees who belong to unions are taxpayers too, genius
BWA-HA-HA!
No...no way...
No way anyone is actually this stupid.
Can't be.
Hey, since government employees are taxpayers, let's pay them a million bucks a year! It's coming out of their own pockets, RIGHT?!?!
Government employees who belong to unions are taxpayers too, genius
BWA-HA-HA!
No...no way...
No way anyone is actually this stupid.
Can't be.
Hey, since government employees are taxpayers, let's pay them a million bucks a year! It's coming out of their own pockets, RIGHT?!?!
Government hacks don;t get the fact that they don't contribute to the net tax revenue.
again, I say open it all the way, or close it completely. The big thing it did was level the playing field for legal influence. Foreign nations and businesses are supposed to still be limited. Then again, laws never stop those who are intent on breaking the law.I have not changed my opinion on Citizens United. It leveled the playing field for corporations and individuals to compete with union and PAC money. I'm all for ending all private money in elections, but it's for everyone. Otherwise, there should be no soft money, all hard that puts everyone on a level playing field knowing who bought whom.
All or nothing. That's my stand. Right now, we have all.
I agree. But what CU v. FEC did was to open the doors wider for both sides to anonymously give money - even foreign interests - and can have an impact on our elections greater than anyone of us.
To the left, when they win, the people have spoken.
To the left, when they lose, the majority is oppressing the minority.
To the left, when they win, the people have spoken.
To the left, when they lose, the majority is oppressing the minority.
I just needed to bump this. Truer words were never spoken
To the left, when they win, the people have spoken.
To the left, when they lose, the majority is oppressing the minority.
I just needed to bump this. Truer words were never spoken
All this simply because the people of Wisconsin wouldn't kick Walker out of office, Wry?
Yes, a minority has rights in this country but they doesn't mean they are allowed to overturn lawfully held elections simply because they don't agree with the politics of the person who was elected.
The people have spoken. Twice now, actually. Think it might be time for you to admit that THEY have rights as well?
If Barrett had won I'm sure Wry would be singing a different tune.
Not. I've been against CU v. FEC since the ruling. It is wrongheaded and opens up our elections to special interest manipulations - foreign and domestic manipulations. My refrain has remained the same.
To the left, when they win, the people have spoken.
To the left, when they lose, the majority is oppressing the minority.
I just needed to bump this. Truer words were never spoken
I'm not surprised you have trouble deciphering the difference between an apple and an aardvark.
Think about what you have applauded; frankly it's a stupid comment (I will be most happy to explain it to you Meister. As always I'm willing to help the needy).
If Barrett had won I'm sure Wry would be singing a different tune.
Not. I've been against CU v. FEC since the ruling. It is wrongheaded and opens up our elections to special interest manipulations - foreign and domestic manipulations. My refrain has remained the same.
Citizen's United was a direct response to the millions of dollars that unions were pouring into elections nationwide. You had union money buying liberal politicians who then turned around and awarded those same unions sweetheart deals paid for by taxpayers. Funny how you had no problem with THAT use of of "special interest manipulation" but are aghast at the manipulations of others.
BWA-HA-HA!
No...no way...
No way anyone is actually this stupid.
Can't be.
Hey, since government employees are taxpayers, let's pay them a million bucks a year! It's coming out of their own pockets, RIGHT?!?!
Government hacks don;t get the fact that they don't contribute to the net tax revenue.
Your anger at "government hacks" is less rational than you want others - maybe even yourself - to think.
Reading your rant (1229 yesterday) suggests to me some psychological scare inflicted by a government agency sometime in your life. Of course I maybe wrong, but ...
That said, government employees actually do work. Of course not all are in harms way but many are; examples are fire fighters, police officers, animal control, social workers, parole and probation officers, court and custody officials and of course the military. All of whom require support from other government employees. Such is true on the local, state and federal level.
.You assert the private sector will work more cheaply and demand fewer benefits but offer no proof that private sector employees will not strike for better benefits, pay and retirement nor offer an explanation as to how a for profit enterprise will offer a cost-benefit to the public. As someone who recruited, hired, trained and disciplined peace officers I can't imagine how a private firm could afford the process or be willing to do so. Consider the problems created by private security forces in Iraq.
I suspect if you got your wish the private forces would require more revenue than the taxes we pay now for the protections offered by government workers
In addition to taxes fees for service might put families out of their homes - much as happens to families when a catastrophic illness depletes their savings and the breadwinner is out of work.
As a business owner I'm sure you want to keep ever dime you earn. I also suspect many of the fees, taxes and expenses you most complain about are local ones, passed by local officials and supported by most in your community.
If by magic you could make local services disappear what would you do if your business were burglarized? Grab your shotgun and go find the perps? Employ 'Pinkerton' dicks to do the same? Would you employee more workers as fire fighters and EMT's since the local 'hacks' no longer existed? Would you patch the roads with your own workers so the product or service you provide could reach your costumers?
What of the codes, fire, health, construction, zoning, etc. Who would enforce them? How would you respond if the business next to yours decided not to have garbage picked up as a cost cutting measure?
Government employees who belong to unions are taxpayers too, genius
BWA-HA-HA!
No...no way...
No way anyone is actually this stupid.
Can't be.
Hey, since government employees are taxpayers, let's pay them a million bucks a year! It's coming out of their own pockets, RIGHT?!?!
If Barrett had won I'm sure Wry would be singing a different tune.
Not. I've been against CU v. FEC since the ruling. It is wrongheaded and opens up our elections to special interest manipulations - foreign and domestic manipulations. My refrain has remained the same.
Citizen's United was a direct response to the millions of dollars that unions were pouring into elections nationwide. You had union money buying liberal politicians who then turned around and awarded those same unions sweetheart deals paid for by taxpayers. Funny how you had no problem with THAT use of of "special interest manipulation" but are aghast at the manipulations of others.
Not. I've been against CU v. FEC since the ruling. It is wrongheaded and opens up our elections to special interest manipulations - foreign and domestic manipulations. My refrain has remained the same.
Citizen's United was a direct response to the millions of dollars that unions were pouring into elections nationwide. You had union money buying liberal politicians who then turned around and awarded those same unions sweetheart deals paid for by taxpayers. Funny how you had no problem with THAT use of of "special interest manipulation" but are aghast at the manipulations of others.
No it wasn't. Besides that I am opposed to 'bribes' of elected officials; when special interests (unions or buisness) donate to a candidate or incumbent it is an unasserted quid pro quo.
IMO every vote on any bill ought to require that the vote on every bill included how the Member voted and if the Member accepted anything from anyone effected by the bill under penalty of perjury. Even one cup of coffee. Penalty, loss of office, loss of francise and felony conviction.
I just needed to bump this. Truer words were never spoken
I'm not surprised you have trouble deciphering the difference between an apple and an aardvark.
Think about what you have applauded; frankly it's a stupid comment (I will be most happy to explain it to you Meister. As always I'm willing to help the needy).
Truth hurts?
When you want to be educated on how to live out on your own without using the government teet, hit me up, wry. It really can be life changing....but first I think you need to move from frisco. Too many nanny state nuts live around there.
To the left, when they win, the people have spoken.
To the left, when they lose, the majority is oppressing the minority.
Citizen's United was a direct response to the millions of dollars that unions were pouring into elections nationwide. You had union money buying liberal politicians who then turned around and awarded those same unions sweetheart deals paid for by taxpayers. Funny how you had no problem with THAT use of of "special interest manipulation" but are aghast at the manipulations of others.
No it wasn't. Besides that I am opposed to 'bribes' of elected officials; when special interests (unions or buisness) donate to a candidate or incumbent it is an unasserted quid pro quo.
IMO every vote on any bill ought to require that the vote on every bill included how the Member voted and if the Member accepted anything from anyone effected by the bill under penalty of perjury. Even one cup of coffee. Penalty, loss of office, loss of francise and felony conviction.
You want to stick a felony on someone for a cup of coffee? Really?