The liberal march towards EXTREME fascism

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Fascists fear facts, discussions, science, and the exchange of information. And they will always resort to either violence - or advocating for violence - to prevent all of it.

‘Punch them in the face’: Student tells cheering crowd how to shut up College Republicans

Why?

Uh....“why” what?

Why would Fascists fear facts?

Because facts prevent control. Control requires propaganda. If people knew the truth, they wouldn’t surrender control of their own lives to someone else.

Capitalists hate facts, they claim false propaganda that Capitalism is the #1 economic producers, which is false.

Fascists are the #1 economic producers.

Franco = #1 economic growth in 20th century Europe.

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

 

[P@triot]

I disagree. Nationalism is a core tenant of fascism.

Sooooo...you think it’s impossible for the left to love their country?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Exactly, Fascists wouldn't tolerate Capitalism hiring illegals from Mexicans, or outsourcing jobs to China. (Because that doesn't benefit national interest, obviously)

Which yet again proves that fascism is left-wing. Nobody would argue that capitalism is right-wing to the core.

Doesn't matter, Fascists are true patriots.

Capitalism is unpatriotic, while people like you claim it's patriotic.

No, it's not.

How do you figure that hiring cheaper foreigners is patriotic to Balkanize the U.S, while propping up Communist or rather semi Communist China which doesn't respect us?

How do you figure that letting your own U.S citizens die from poverty, or lack of healthcare is patriotic?

 

[P@triot]

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

 

[Vastator]

Exactly, Fascists wouldn't tolerate Capitalism hiring illegals from Mexicans, or outsourcing jobs to China. (Because that doesn't benefit national interest, obviously)

Which yet again proves that fascism is left-wing. Nobody would argue that capitalism is right-wing to the core.

A fascistic government can be framed out in a variety of ways. Internal capitalism can certainly play a healthy, profitable, and pivotal role within a fascistic regime.
The government would only step in when a businesses actions take it abroad; which already happenscto an extent now. Or if the bussines does something against national interests. Like hiring illegals, and a myriad of other things.

 

[Vastator]

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...

 

[P@triot]

Capitalists hate facts, they claim false propaganda that Capitalism is the #1 economic producers, which is false.

Not it’s not - it’s 100% true. If fascism is such a wonder of innovation and economic growth, how come the U.S. developed the nuclear bomb before Hitler?

For that matter, how come the U.S. has developed everything before other nations? Electricity. Computers. Internet. Automobiles. Oops...

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

The U.S.A has tons of propaganda, it's all instilled into the masses through the Public Education system.

The difference is the U.S.A is basically promotes a Capitalist - Liberal - Multicultural - ANTIFA propaganda .

 

[P@triot]

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...

Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).

 

[Vastator]

I disagree. Nationalism is a core tenant of fascism.

Sooooo...you think it’s impossible for the left to love their country?

I think its impossible for today's left to love the nation, as founded by our forefathers. Additionally I find them unlikely to love the nation, even as it is now. The only love they have for this dirt; is for the socialist vision they wish to turn it into.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Capitalists hate facts, they claim false propaganda that Capitalism is the #1 economic producers, which is false.

Not it’s not - it’s 100% true. If fascism is such a wonder of innovation and economic growth, how come the U.S. developed the nuclear bomb before Hitler?

For that matter, how come the U.S. has developed everything before other nations? Electricity. Computers. Internet. Automobiles. Oops...

Hahaha, Oh my goodness... You are aware you're comparing a bigger U.S, to a smaller Germany, right?

Nazi Germany was in ruins when the U.S.A developed the A-Bomb, but they actually were working on it apparently, but it was sabatoged.

Actually Nazis beat the U.S to the punch on computers, with Konrad Zuse's Z3.

Nazis also put rockets into space before the U.S.A, with Wernher Von Braun's V2 rockets.... In fact, the first NASA rockets were just Nazi V2's spray-painted with NASA logos. LOL
Yes, it was Wernher Von Braun who lead NASA to put a man on the Moon, a Nazi trained rocket-scientist.

 

[Vastator]

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...

Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).

They are anything but fascists. They are ardent multiculturalism, socialists. Nationalism is despised by them.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...

Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).

They are anything but fascists. They are ardent multiculturalism, socialists. Nationalism is despised by them.

Mussolini was way less racist than FDR.

This idea that Fascists are all mega-racists is BS.

However, yes Mussolini put Italian interests first, but he wasn't really racist.

The leftists just kick, and scream Fascist, not knowing what they're doing.

So do Republicans, they join them, also not knowing what they're doing.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Capitalists hate facts, they claim false propaganda that Capitalism is the #1 economic producers, which is false.

Not it’s not - it’s 100% true. If fascism is such a wonder of innovation and economic growth, how come the U.S. developed the nuclear bomb before Hitler?

For that matter, how come the U.S. has developed everything before other nations? Electricity. Computers. Internet. Automobiles. Oops...

Automobiles in the modern sense were invented by Germany with Mercedes.

This is 100% American propaganda.

They don't teach you that Germany invented automobiles before the U.S.A.

 

[bripat9643]

Fascists fear facts, discussions, science, and the exchange of information. And they will always resort to either violence - or advocating for violence - to prevent all of it.

‘Punch them in the face’: Student tells cheering crowd how to shut up College Republicans

Why?

Fascists = #1 creators of economic growth.

Fascists killed less than Communists, and Capitalists.

Prove otherwise?

Who have capitalists killed?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Fascists fear facts, discussions, science, and the exchange of information. And they will always resort to either violence - or advocating for violence - to prevent all of it.

‘Punch them in the face’: Student tells cheering crowd how to shut up College Republicans

Why?

Fascists = #1 creators of economic growth.

Fascists killed less than Communists, and Capitalists.

Prove otherwise?

Who have capitalists killed?

30 - 60 million in Raj India by Capitalist Britain.

20 - 30 million by the Capitalist U.S.A since WW2.

 

[Vastator]

Hitler = #1 economic turn around during the Great Depression.

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...

Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).

They are anything but fascists. They are ardent multiculturalism, socialists. Nationalism is despised by them.

Mussolini was way less racist than FDR.

This idea that Fascists are all mega-racists is BS.

However, yes Mussolini put Italian interests first, but he wasn't really racist.

The leftists just kick, and scream Fascist, not knowing what they're doing.

So do Republicans, they join them, also not knowing what they're doing.

True. Fascism one of the least understood forms of governance. It is also often conflated with socialism. Which really is a shame, because the two are distinctly different.

 

[bripat9643]

I disagree. Nationalism is a core tenant of fascism. This is completely lacking amongst the leftist agenda.

You know what else is a “core tenant” of fascism? Complete and total government control. The primary element of the leftist agenda (and completely incompatible with the small, limited government agenda of the right).

Not neccessarily. Under fascism private property, and business is allowed. Socialism however most always has the state lay claim to everything.
I find the left to be much more akin to socialism, than fascism.

It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.

Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.

Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.

 

[bripat9643]

Fascists fear facts, discussions, science, and the exchange of information. And they will always resort to either violence - or advocating for violence - to prevent all of it.

‘Punch them in the face’: Student tells cheering crowd how to shut up College Republicans

Why?

Fascists = #1 creators of economic growth.

Fascists killed less than Communists, and Capitalists.

Prove otherwise?

Who have capitalists killed?

30 - 60 million in Raj India by Capitalist Britain.

20 - 30 million by the Capitalist U.S.A since WW2.

Horseshit. Capitalism hasn't killed 20 million people in the USA, and you're blaming capitalism for what happened in India instead of imperialism. I also think that figure is absurd, but I haven't researched the issue, so I won't render a judgement on it.

 

[bripat9643]

Then why did Hitler need a ministry of propaganda? Why did he need Goerbels? Oops...

The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...

Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).

They are anything but fascists. They are ardent multiculturalism, socialists. Nationalism is despised by them.

Mussolini was way less racist than FDR.

This idea that Fascists are all mega-racists is BS.

However, yes Mussolini put Italian interests first, but he wasn't really racist.

The leftists just kick, and scream Fascist, not knowing what they're doing.

So do Republicans, they join them, also not knowing what they're doing.

True. Fascism one of the least understood forms of governance. It is also often conflated with socialism. Which really is a shame, because the two are distinctly different.

It's well understood. It's a form of socialism.