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Again... This "rigid" sense of what fascism is limits ones scope of what ways it can be implemented. Much in the way Democracies are practiced in limitless variations, so to can fascist regimes. The core principle being nationalism.Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.Not neccessarily. Under fascism private property, and business is allowed. Socialism however most always has the state lay claim to everything.You know what else is a “core tenant” of fascism? Complete and total government control. The primary element of the leftist agenda (and completely incompatible with the small, limited government agenda of the right).I disagree. Nationalism is a core tenant of fascism. This is completely lacking amongst the leftist agenda.
I find the left to be much more akin to socialism, than fascism.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.Not neccessarily. Under fascism private property, and business is allowed. Socialism however most always has the state lay claim to everything.You know what else is a “core tenant” of fascism? Complete and total government control. The primary element of the leftist agenda (and completely incompatible with the small, limited government agenda of the right).I disagree. Nationalism is a core tenant of fascism. This is completely lacking amongst the leftist agenda.
I find the left to be much more akin to socialism, than fascism.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
Then you misunderstand it well.True. Fascism one of the least understood forms of governance. It is also often conflated with socialism. Which really is a shame, because the two are distinctly different.They are anything but fascists. They are ardent multiculturalism, socialists. Nationalism is despised by them.Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...
Mussolini was way less racist than FDR.
This idea that Fascists are all mega-racists is BS.
However, yes Mussolini put Italian interests first, but he wasn't really racist.
The leftists just kick, and scream Fascist, not knowing what they're doing.
So do Republicans, they join them, also not knowing what they're doing.
It's well understood. It's a form of socialism.
True. Fascism one of the least understood forms of governance. It is also often conflated with socialism. Which really is a shame, because the two are distinctly different.They are anything but fascists. They are ardent multiculturalism, socialists. Nationalism is despised by them.Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).The same reason every government including our own, churns out propaganda. It can be useful...
Mussolini was way less racist than FDR.
This idea that Fascists are all mega-racists is BS.
However, yes Mussolini put Italian interests first, but he wasn't really racist.
The leftists just kick, and scream Fascist, not knowing what they're doing.
So do Republicans, they join them, also not knowing what they're doing.
It's well understood. It's a form of socialism.
Who have capitalists killed?Fascists fear facts, discussions, science, and the exchange of information. And they will always resort to either violence - or advocating for violence - to prevent all of it.
‘Punch them in the face’: Student tells cheering crowd how to shut up College Republicans
Why?
Fascists = #1 creators of economic growth.
Fascists killed less than Communists, and Capitalists.
Prove otherwise?
30 - 60 million in Raj India by Capitalist Britain.
20 - 30 million by the Capitalist U.S.A since WW2.
Horseshit. Capitalism hasn't killed 20 million people in the USA, and you're blaming capitalism for what happened in India instead of imperialism. I also think that figure is absurd, but I haven't researched the issue, so I won't render a judgement on it.
Again... This "rigid" sense of what fascism is limits ones scope of what ways it can be implemented. Much in the way Democracies are practiced in limitless variations, so to can fascist regimes. The core principle being nationalism.Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.Not neccessarily. Under fascism private property, and business is allowed. Socialism however most always has the state lay claim to everything.You know what else is a “core tenant” of fascism? Complete and total government control. The primary element of the leftist agenda (and completely incompatible with the small, limited government agenda of the right).
I find the left to be much more akin to socialism, than fascism.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
Who have capitalists killed?Fascists fear facts, discussions, science, and the exchange of information. And they will always resort to either violence - or advocating for violence - to prevent all of it.
‘Punch them in the face’: Student tells cheering crowd how to shut up College Republicans
Why?
Fascists = #1 creators of economic growth.
Fascists killed less than Communists, and Capitalists.
Prove otherwise?
30 - 60 million in Raj India by Capitalist Britain.
20 - 30 million by the Capitalist U.S.A since WW2.
Horseshit. Capitalism hasn't killed 20 million people in the USA, and you're blaming capitalism for what happened in India instead of imperialism. I also think that figure is absurd, but I haven't researched the issue, so I won't render a judgement on it.
Late Victorian Holocausts - Wikipedia
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
Again... This "rigid" sense of what fascism is limits ones scope of what ways it can be implemented. Much in the way Democracies are practiced in limitless variations, so to can fascist regimes. The core principle being nationalism.Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.Not neccessarily. Under fascism private property, and business is allowed. Socialism however most always has the state lay claim to everything.
I find the left to be much more akin to socialism, than fascism.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
So fascism can be anything you want it to be? That makes the term meaningless. If government doesn't make the decisions for "private" industry, then it isn't fascism. It's capitalism.
True. Fascism one of the least understood forms of governance. It is also often conflated with socialism. Which really is a shame, because the two are distinctly different.They are anything but fascists. They are ardent multiculturalism, socialists. Nationalism is despised by them.Yeah...and our government is filled with left-wing fascists (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer).
Mussolini was way less racist than FDR.
This idea that Fascists are all mega-racists is BS.
However, yes Mussolini put Italian interests first, but he wasn't really racist.
The leftists just kick, and scream Fascist, not knowing what they're doing.
So do Republicans, they join them, also not knowing what they're doing.
It's well understood. It's a form of socialism.
Fascism is Corporatism in the sense that Corporations are regulated government.
As there are different definitions of Corporatism which mean differently.
Again... This "rigid" sense of what fascism is limits ones scope of what ways it can be implemented. Much in the way Democracies are practiced in limitless variations, so to can fascist regimes. The core principle being nationalism.Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
So fascism can be anything you want it to be? That makes the term meaningless. If government doesn't make the decisions for "private" industry, then it isn't fascism. It's capitalism.
Communism exerts total control over the business place.
Fascism just manages what's going on in the business place.
You could see Communism as the producers of business, and Fascists are supervisors of business.
No. Fascism has to be framed around nationalism. Usually with a strong authoritarian leader. How the governance of that fascistic regime is fleshed out, and what its specific policies are, and how they are implemented is as diverse as peoples ideas for what's best for their nation.Again... This "rigid" sense of what fascism is limits ones scope of what ways it can be implemented. Much in the way Democracies are practiced in limitless variations, so to can fascist regimes. The core principle being nationalism.Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.Not neccessarily. Under fascism private property, and business is allowed. Socialism however most always has the state lay claim to everything.
I find the left to be much more akin to socialism, than fascism.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
So fascism can be anything you want it to be? That makes the term meaningless. If government doesn't make the decisions for "private" industry, then it isn't fascism. It's capitalism.
Who have capitalists killed?Why?
Fascists = #1 creators of economic growth.
Fascists killed less than Communists, and Capitalists.
Prove otherwise?
30 - 60 million in Raj India by Capitalist Britain.
20 - 30 million by the Capitalist U.S.A since WW2.
Horseshit. Capitalism hasn't killed 20 million people in the USA, and you're blaming capitalism for what happened in India instead of imperialism. I also think that figure is absurd, but I haven't researched the issue, so I won't render a judgement on it.
Late Victorian Holocausts - Wikipedia
Communist propaganda.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
Capitalism and the US government are two separate things.
Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.Not neccessarily. Under fascism private property, and business is allowed. Socialism however most always has the state lay claim to everything.You know what else is a “core tenant” of fascism? Complete and total government control. The primary element of the leftist agenda (and completely incompatible with the small, limited government agenda of the right).
I find the left to be much more akin to socialism, than fascism.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
You're thinking of Communism.
Fascism only has minimal control over Companies, mostly just to make sure they benefit National interest.
In today's America, it would obviously include cracking down on companies who export jobs to China, and who import Mexican illegals to the U.S.A.
How does that benefit the National Interest?
This is not Patriotic, nor Democratic.
These are Capitalists ruining a nation for cheap labor.
Only because many Americans are weak, and stupid, they tolerate it.
Yeah, charts like this below prove why the U.S.A is failing.
Who have capitalists killed?
30 - 60 million in Raj India by Capitalist Britain.
20 - 30 million by the Capitalist U.S.A since WW2.
Horseshit. Capitalism hasn't killed 20 million people in the USA, and you're blaming capitalism for what happened in India instead of imperialism. I also think that figure is absurd, but I haven't researched the issue, so I won't render a judgement on it.
Late Victorian Holocausts - Wikipedia
Communist propaganda.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
Capitalism and the US government are two separate things.
Capitalists like Churchill, FDR, and Truman killed each killed way more than the Founding Father of Fascism Mussolini.
Again... This "rigid" sense of what fascism is limits ones scope of what ways it can be implemented. Much in the way Democracies are practiced in limitless variations, so to can fascist regimes. The core principle being nationalism.Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
So fascism can be anything you want it to be? That makes the term meaningless. If government doesn't make the decisions for "private" industry, then it isn't fascism. It's capitalism.
Communism exerts total control over the business place.
Fascism just manages what's going on in the business place.
You could see Communism as the producers of business, and Fascists are supervisors of business.
What's the difference from exerting total control and managing what's going on?
No. Fascism has to be framed around nationalism. Usually with a strong authoritarian leader. How the governance of that fascistic regime is fleshed out, and what its specific policies are, and how they are implemented is as diverse as peoples ideas for what's best for their nation.Again... This "rigid" sense of what fascism is limits ones scope of what ways it can be implemented. Much in the way Democracies are practiced in limitless variations, so to can fascist regimes. The core principle being nationalism.Bullshit. The reality is that government makes all the important business decisions. It decides what is produced, how much is produced, where it is produced, the price for what is produced and the wages paid to produce it. It also decides thousands of other details. These decisions are all justified by "the national interest." Whatever the excuse or motive, it's still fascism.Not really. Under a fascist government business decisions would have to be weighed against national interests. Which acts as a checks, and balanced type of oversight. Private ownership is still legit. As is individual profits. One thing a fascist government would prevent a business from doing would be moving jobs to a foreign country, in order to profit at the expense of the domestic labor force.It's allowed in name only. Since the government makes all the business decisions, there is no real private property in business. The so-called "owners" have been reduced to factory managers. That's where the left wants to take this country. That's why they have their infantile tantrums whenever their fascist regulatory regime is dismantled.
No big deal really. All businesses in our country are already beholden to many laws. Its just that under fascism, said laws would always be weighed against nationalism.
So fascism can be anything you want it to be? That makes the term meaningless. If government doesn't make the decisions for "private" industry, then it isn't fascism. It's capitalism.
What you are suggesting, is akin to saying "if a democracy isn't modled exactly like the USAs is not a democracy. Were a democratic republic. I know... But you get the point. There is room for shape and style.
30 - 60 million in Raj India by Capitalist Britain.
20 - 30 million by the Capitalist U.S.A since WW2.
Horseshit. Capitalism hasn't killed 20 million people in the USA, and you're blaming capitalism for what happened in India instead of imperialism. I also think that figure is absurd, but I haven't researched the issue, so I won't render a judgement on it.
Late Victorian Holocausts - Wikipedia
Communist propaganda.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-in-37-victim-nations-since-world-war-ii/5492051
Capitalism and the US government are two separate things.
Capitalists like Churchill, FDR, and Truman killed each killed way more than the Founding Father of Fascism Mussolini.
They were politicians, not capitalists, especially FDR and Truman.
You need to widen your view. You keep limiting it to the U.S. Fascism expands far beyond our borders. Yes, the left-wing dirt-bags of this country hate our nation. But that's not the case in Europe and other places.I think its impossible for today's left to love the nation, as founded by our forefathers. Additionally I find them unlikely to love the nation, even as it is now. The only love they have for this dirt; is for the socialist vision they wish to turn it into.Sooooo...you think it’s impossible for the left to love their country?I disagree. Nationalism is a core tenant of fascism.
