the media ia trying to stir up an angry mob

[ColonelAngus]

Trump isn't Hitler, he is RKelly.

Snowflakes make terrible analogies.

They are worse than something that makes bad analogies.

He got away with pedophilia? Interesting. I hadn't heard that one.

R. Kelly Is Acquitted in Child Pornography Case
....Mr. Kelly had been accused of making a 27-minute sex tape with an under-age female. But a high-powered defense team convinced the jury of nine men and three women that the identity of the girl was not conclusive.

As the verdicts were being read on Friday, the singer started crying and whispering “Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus,” over and over again, his lawyers said.

Mr. Kelly, 41, whose signature song is “I Believe I Can Fly,” saluted a crowd of his fans as he left court and then put his hand on his heart. He made no remarks, but the impassive face he had worn during the four-week trial showed a flicker of a smile.

Continue reading the main story

In the same courtroom where the trial was conducted, five jurors told reporters that the absence of testimony from the alleged victim was a big handicap. “All of us felt the grayness of the case," one juror said.

As outlined in the prosecution’s opening and closing statements, the case was intended to be clear-cut: the “sweet, nice, lovely” victim was introduced to Mr. Kelly at the age of 12 by her aunt, a protégé of Mr. Kelly’s named Stephanie Edwards. But instead of making the girl a star, Mr. Kelly preyed on her, made her do “vile, disgusting” things and filmed them. Since Mr. Kelly knew she was under age, the state said, he was guilty of making child pornography.

Expert witnesses for the prosecution said that the VHS tape, whose origin is unknown, was a multigeneration copy but had not been tampered with. Prosecutors also pointed out how the man on the tape turned his back briefly to the camera. It was less than a quarter of a second, but enough time to see a mole on his back — just like the one Mr. Kelly has.

While 14 witnesses for the prosecution identified the girl in the tape, and some identified Mr. Kelly as well, only one tied them together in a sexual relationship. That was Lisa Van Allen, who testified that she had a three-way sexual encounter with them.

Ms. Van Allen, who received state and federal immunity to testify, did not appear to be an unimpeachable witness. She told the court that she had first had sex with Mr. Kelly at age 17, immediately after being introduced to him on the set of one of his videos, and admitted that she stole a $20,000 Rolex from him. Her current boyfriend and a former boyfriend are both felons.

The defense team called her a liar and extortionist and compared her, literally, to Satan.

Mr. Kelly’s lawyers, who included Edward Genson, Sam Adam and his son, Sam Adam Jr., filed so many motions that they helped delay the start of the trial for six years. But once in court, the lawyers adopted a minimalist approach, limiting their side of the story to two days. Mr. Kelly did not testify....

The parallel to RKelly is just as accurate as Hitler.

Nonetheless, I'm fascinated that you chose RKelley in which to compare Trump.

Both were in the news for allegedly participating in golden showers. Hence, the comparison.

 

[Virginia Mom]

I for one love the division and confusion. Its fun to see.

So, you love seeing American citizens at each other's thr

Are you an American citizen? I am, and I don't think it's fun that my fellow Americans are at each other's throat. A little more hate and fear mongering, and maybe the next riot that occurs won't just be people destroying others property, or setting fire to a young woman's hair (I bet she thought that was a lot of fun, and I hope they catch the coward that did that). Maybe you'll have more fun if innocent people are injured or killed? @@@@ Sorry, I thought I quoted Initforme, that is who I was responding to, sorry for any confusion.@@@@

Yes, I am. Additionally, I served, according to my retirement papers, 22 years and a day defending our nation's Constitution. You?

Agreed that the fear-mongering is bullshit, but let's not kid ourselves, the LW has been fear-mongering for decades. Example: "gun violence".

Ok, you may not have seen where I edited my post that I thought I had quoted Initforme. Had nothing to do with serving, just wondered why an American would find it fun what's going on now. Thank you for your service, I did not serve, but my father and 2 of my uncles were Navy and served in WW2, and The Korean Conflict. My son is a Marine that was active duty infantry from 2006-2010 and was deployed twice. The Constitution does not give anyone the right to destroy someone else's property.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yeah, don't ya hate it when the media alert us to fascist aggression and show pictures of people protesting it.

So you are alright with them lying about it?

They're not lying about it. Saying that Trump didn't ban Muslim immigration, or refugees from entering the country, doesn't make it the truth. The truth is that Trump overstepped the limits of his authority, and failed in his primary duty of upholding the Constitution, and since this is still a nation of laws, the judges of the land, put a stay on the EO which has resulted in fear and chaos around the world.

 

[BluesLegend]

The media stirred up an angry mob...and we elected Trump president!

 

[Divine Wind]

Ok, you may not have seen where I edited my post that I thought I had quoted Initforme. Had nothing to do with serving, just wondered why an American would find it fun what's going on now. Thank you for your service, I did not serve, but my father and 2 of my uncles were Navy and served in WW2, and The Korean Conflict. My son is a Marine that was active duty infantry from 2006-2010 and was deployed twice. The Constitution does not give anyone the right to destroy someone else's property.

I didn't see anything except your post immediately after mine, no quotes or references.

Agreed about how some people nowadays, especially those who haven't served, want to shred our Constitution. This is bad when it Democrats, but especially hypocritical of those who claim to be Republicans. It also explains why I, like many others, left the Republican party over the past three elections.

The hypocrisy in politics, from both sides, is not only hip-deep but also so disturbing that Americans elected Donald Trump as President. Not because he was the best candidate, but he was the better choice than Hillary Clinton.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yeah, don't ya hate it when the media alert us to fascist aggression and show pictures of people protesting it.

So you are alright with them lying about it?

They're not lying about it. Saying that Trump didn't ban Muslim immigration, or refugees from entering the country, doesn't make it the truth. The truth is that Trump overstepped the limits of his authority, and failed in his primary duty of upholding the Constitution, and since this is still a nation of laws, the judges of the land, put a stay on the EO which has resulted in fear and chaos around the world.

The EO was not stopped dumb ass. All that happened was anyone with a valid visa IN the country already was detained rather then sent packing. No one from the 7 Countries can enter the US unless we waive the ban.

 

[Divine Wind]

Including Christians. This article on RedState.com slams Trump's handling of the issue.

After Promising Priority Status To Christian Immigrants, Two Families Swept Up in Trump's Travel Ban | RedState
No sooner did the lie words get out of his mouth, in his panderview with Christian Broadcast Network’s David Brody, that Christian refugees would get priority status, do we see just how inept Donald Trump’s grasp on the immigration problem is.

On Friday, Trump sat with Brody in an interview scheduled to air on CBN on Sunday. In the interview, he discussed his planned halt to the Syrian refugee program – one of many campaign promises tossed out as red meat to his MAGA base.

In speaking with Brody, Trump assured that the order he would be signing on Friday would give Christians “priority status.”

“We are going to help them. They’ve been horribly treated,” Trump told the Christian Broadcasting Network in an interview set to air Sunday.

Upon being asked if he sees persecuted Christians “as kind of a priority” when it comes to granting non-citizens refugee status, Trump told Brady: “Yes.”​

That was Friday.

By Saturday, all hell had broken loose. The order signed by Trump affected some immigrants that were in transit. It swept up some who were legal, green card-holders and American employees.

And it sent at least two Christian families back to the horrors they were fleeing, even though they had taken every legal step necessary to gain entrance.

NBC news out of Philadelphia reported on Sunday that two Syrian Christian families from Doha, Qatar were detained at Philadelphia International Airport on Saturday, before being turned away.

The families, made of up two brothers, their wives and two children, were detained by Customs and Border Protection officials after disembarking a Qatar Airways flight at 7:25 a.m., according to Joseph Assali, of Allentown.

Three hours later, the six were put back on a Qatar Airways flight to Doha, Assali said.

“This is like a nightmare come true,” he said, adding that they had visas and green cards legally obtained months ago.

“They’re all Christian citizens and the executive order was supposed to protect Christians fleeing persecution,” he said.​

Trump’s executive order, having been filtered through his senior counsel, Steve Bannon, swept up all Syrian immigrants, green card holders included.

An immigration lawyer, working on behalf of the Assali family tried to find out what was going on from federal officials at the airport, but it was too late. The two families were already on a flight back to Qatar and were unreachable.

Trump said in signing the order that he pledged to “keep radical Islamic terrorists out of the United States of America.” He did, however, declare that Christians in Syria and other restricted-status counties would be given preference.

Syria was the only country he named Friday, but the order suspended entry for 90 days from countries linked to a statute in the Visa Waiver Program. Besides Syria, those countries are: Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.
An attorney with the ACLU of Pennsylvania told NBC10 that she was reaching out to the Assali family to get more details.

The attorney, Molly Tack-Hooper, said her organization would try to file a writ of habeas corpus on the detained family’s behalf. The writ would require authorities to bring the detainees before a judge before deportation.

Upon learning that federal authorities may have already deported the families, she said she would still reach out to the Assali family in Allentown.

“It’s fuzzy what we could do if they’re already on a flight back to Qatar,” she said.​

Responding to a request by the ACLU, a federal judge out of New York granted an injunction that worked to block anyone with a valid visa from being deported under Trump’s ban.

It doesn’t, however, mean they can’t be detained, and it only applies to those already within the United States, not those trying to travel to the U.S.

Joseph Assali told NBC10 his family members are still on their flight and unaware of the injunction being granted. He said he’s been advised to let them know as soon as they land and to urge them to try and fly back to the United States as soon as possible.​

I’ve heard different arguments in favor of the ban, as well as against.

I’ve also heard the arguments against creating a “religious test” for coming into our nation.

It should be obvious to everyone that there are risks associated with unfettered immigration, especially from regions that are in extreme turmoil, and where terrorists are fostered.

I absolutely agree that there needs to be a very strict vetting process for anyone who wants to enter the U.S.

I’ll go further, however, and say I support priority status for minorities from those regions that might be at a greater risk for persecution.

In the case of Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees, that would definitely mean Christians.

Is that a “religious test” and is it right or wrong?

I don’t have a problem with it. We can’t just fling open the gates and take everyone, but a bit of compassion in helping some of those who are at risk of annihilation in their home countries shouldn’t be off the table, either.

Whatever the case, and whatever your stance on this, Trump and his circle dropped the ball, here. They’ve opened up the entire order to scrutiny and it is likely going to be a nasty fight in the courts to get resolved.

 

[Johann]

We should arrest some of these folks for inciting violence.

 

[Divine Wind]

We should arrest some of these folks for inciting violence.

If violence breaks out, that is exactly what usually happens.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

 

[Divine Wind]

Trump isn't Hitler, he is RKelly.

Snowflakes make terrible analogies.

They are worse than something that makes bad analogies.

He got away with pedophilia? Interesting. I hadn't heard that one.

R. Kelly Is Acquitted in Child Pornography Case
....Mr. Kelly had been accused of making a 27-minute sex tape with an under-age female. But a high-powered defense team convinced the jury of nine men and three women that the identity of the girl was not conclusive.

As the verdicts were being read on Friday, the singer started crying and whispering “Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus,” over and over again, his lawyers said.

Mr. Kelly, 41, whose signature song is “I Believe I Can Fly,” saluted a crowd of his fans as he left court and then put his hand on his heart. He made no remarks, but the impassive face he had worn during the four-week trial showed a flicker of a smile.

Continue reading the main story

In the same courtroom where the trial was conducted, five jurors told reporters that the absence of testimony from the alleged victim was a big handicap. “All of us felt the grayness of the case," one juror said.

As outlined in the prosecution’s opening and closing statements, the case was intended to be clear-cut: the “sweet, nice, lovely” victim was introduced to Mr. Kelly at the age of 12 by her aunt, a protégé of Mr. Kelly’s named Stephanie Edwards. But instead of making the girl a star, Mr. Kelly preyed on her, made her do “vile, disgusting” things and filmed them. Since Mr. Kelly knew she was under age, the state said, he was guilty of making child pornography.

Expert witnesses for the prosecution said that the VHS tape, whose origin is unknown, was a multigeneration copy but had not been tampered with. Prosecutors also pointed out how the man on the tape turned his back briefly to the camera. It was less than a quarter of a second, but enough time to see a mole on his back — just like the one Mr. Kelly has.

While 14 witnesses for the prosecution identified the girl in the tape, and some identified Mr. Kelly as well, only one tied them together in a sexual relationship. That was Lisa Van Allen, who testified that she had a three-way sexual encounter with them.

Ms. Van Allen, who received state and federal immunity to testify, did not appear to be an unimpeachable witness. She told the court that she had first had sex with Mr. Kelly at age 17, immediately after being introduced to him on the set of one of his videos, and admitted that she stole a $20,000 Rolex from him. Her current boyfriend and a former boyfriend are both felons.

The defense team called her a liar and extortionist and compared her, literally, to Satan.

Mr. Kelly’s lawyers, who included Edward Genson, Sam Adam and his son, Sam Adam Jr., filed so many motions that they helped delay the start of the trial for six years. But once in court, the lawyers adopted a minimalist approach, limiting their side of the story to two days. Mr. Kelly did not testify....

The parallel to RKelly is just as accurate as Hitler.

Nonetheless, I'm fascinated that you chose RKelley in which to compare Trump.

Both were in the news for allegedly participating in golden showers. Hence, the comparison.

Watching hookers pee on an object is not the same as a "golden shower".

 

[HaShev]

Caught the financial network CNBC and the fake news CNN outright lying again.
They claim that why ban Iran if they had 0 terrorist acts. Wahhh?
If they mean in the U.S. one comes to mind, their knocking off another country's political figure coming into our country.
Then there is the terrorist acts by proxy towards our citizens and military around the globe.
If they mean acts anywhere that is worse because they support terrorists financially, training and arms by many groups all over the globe to numerous to list.
Furthermore how does CNN or the CNBC guest interviewed know how many Iranian terrorists were prevented or caught before the act with the many plots foiled and restrictions already in place?
There's also more to this ban then we can be told for more then one reason.

 

[NoNukes]

And from the looks of things in social media, they are succeeding. And they are doing it by telling lies.

Trump did not institute a Muslim ban. Anyone looking at the fact that the media is also trying to claim trump is a hypocrite for not banning all Muslims should tell you that.

The executive order does not effect citizens or people who already have green cards. They are lying about that too.

Even David French one of the staunchest never trumpers is pointing out that the portraying of this order is incorrect.

Now people are angry because they are afraid. Not because of something trump did buy because the media is lying about it.

If you are angry take a step back. Calm down. Look at what the order actually says. A temporary restriction to countries where Isis can gain access to refugee populations until a getting process is not a Muslim ban. Nor is it unreasonable. Obama should have put a procedure in place when it became known Isis was infiltrating refugees.

Don't let yourself be drawn into the lie. Anger leads to bad things. Hopefully the mob will do minimal damage today

It was not a Muslim ban, but an alternative fact.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump isn't Hitler, he is RKelly.

Snowflakes make terrible analogies.

They are worse than something that makes bad analogies.

He got away with pedophilia? Interesting. I hadn't heard that one.

R. Kelly Is Acquitted in Child Pornography Case
....Mr. Kelly had been accused of making a 27-minute sex tape with an under-age female. But a high-powered defense team convinced the jury of nine men and three women that the identity of the girl was not conclusive.

As the verdicts were being read on Friday, the singer started crying and whispering “Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus,” over and over again, his lawyers said.

Mr. Kelly, 41, whose signature song is “I Believe I Can Fly,” saluted a crowd of his fans as he left court and then put his hand on his heart. He made no remarks, but the impassive face he had worn during the four-week trial showed a flicker of a smile.

Continue reading the main story

In the same courtroom where the trial was conducted, five jurors told reporters that the absence of testimony from the alleged victim was a big handicap. “All of us felt the grayness of the case," one juror said.

As outlined in the prosecution’s opening and closing statements, the case was intended to be clear-cut: the “sweet, nice, lovely” victim was introduced to Mr. Kelly at the age of 12 by her aunt, a protégé of Mr. Kelly’s named Stephanie Edwards. But instead of making the girl a star, Mr. Kelly preyed on her, made her do “vile, disgusting” things and filmed them. Since Mr. Kelly knew she was under age, the state said, he was guilty of making child pornography.

Expert witnesses for the prosecution said that the VHS tape, whose origin is unknown, was a multigeneration copy but had not been tampered with. Prosecutors also pointed out how the man on the tape turned his back briefly to the camera. It was less than a quarter of a second, but enough time to see a mole on his back — just like the one Mr. Kelly has.

While 14 witnesses for the prosecution identified the girl in the tape, and some identified Mr. Kelly as well, only one tied them together in a sexual relationship. That was Lisa Van Allen, who testified that she had a three-way sexual encounter with them.

Ms. Van Allen, who received state and federal immunity to testify, did not appear to be an unimpeachable witness. She told the court that she had first had sex with Mr. Kelly at age 17, immediately after being introduced to him on the set of one of his videos, and admitted that she stole a $20,000 Rolex from him. Her current boyfriend and a former boyfriend are both felons.

The defense team called her a liar and extortionist and compared her, literally, to Satan.

Mr. Kelly’s lawyers, who included Edward Genson, Sam Adam and his son, Sam Adam Jr., filed so many motions that they helped delay the start of the trial for six years. But once in court, the lawyers adopted a minimalist approach, limiting their side of the story to two days. Mr. Kelly did not testify....

The parallel to RKelly is just as accurate as Hitler.

Nonetheless, I'm fascinated that you chose RKelley in which to compare Trump.

Both were in the news for allegedly participating in golden showers. Hence, the comparison.

Watching hookers pee on an object is not the same as a "golden shower".

I'll defer to your expertise on the nuances of urine play.

 

[Divine Wind]

He got away with pedophilia? Interesting. I hadn't heard that one.

R. Kelly Is Acquitted in Child Pornography Case
....Mr. Kelly had been accused of making a 27-minute sex tape with an under-age female. But a high-powered defense team convinced the jury of nine men and three women that the identity of the girl was not conclusive.

As the verdicts were being read on Friday, the singer started crying and whispering “Thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus,” over and over again, his lawyers said.

Mr. Kelly, 41, whose signature song is “I Believe I Can Fly,” saluted a crowd of his fans as he left court and then put his hand on his heart. He made no remarks, but the impassive face he had worn during the four-week trial showed a flicker of a smile.

Continue reading the main story

In the same courtroom where the trial was conducted, five jurors told reporters that the absence of testimony from the alleged victim was a big handicap. “All of us felt the grayness of the case," one juror said.

As outlined in the prosecution’s opening and closing statements, the case was intended to be clear-cut: the “sweet, nice, lovely” victim was introduced to Mr. Kelly at the age of 12 by her aunt, a protégé of Mr. Kelly’s named Stephanie Edwards. But instead of making the girl a star, Mr. Kelly preyed on her, made her do “vile, disgusting” things and filmed them. Since Mr. Kelly knew she was under age, the state said, he was guilty of making child pornography.

Expert witnesses for the prosecution said that the VHS tape, whose origin is unknown, was a multigeneration copy but had not been tampered with. Prosecutors also pointed out how the man on the tape turned his back briefly to the camera. It was less than a quarter of a second, but enough time to see a mole on his back — just like the one Mr. Kelly has.

While 14 witnesses for the prosecution identified the girl in the tape, and some identified Mr. Kelly as well, only one tied them together in a sexual relationship. That was Lisa Van Allen, who testified that she had a three-way sexual encounter with them.

Ms. Van Allen, who received state and federal immunity to testify, did not appear to be an unimpeachable witness. She told the court that she had first had sex with Mr. Kelly at age 17, immediately after being introduced to him on the set of one of his videos, and admitted that she stole a $20,000 Rolex from him. Her current boyfriend and a former boyfriend are both felons.

The defense team called her a liar and extortionist and compared her, literally, to Satan.

Mr. Kelly’s lawyers, who included Edward Genson, Sam Adam and his son, Sam Adam Jr., filed so many motions that they helped delay the start of the trial for six years. But once in court, the lawyers adopted a minimalist approach, limiting their side of the story to two days. Mr. Kelly did not testify....

The parallel to RKelly is just as accurate as Hitler.

Nonetheless, I'm fascinated that you chose RKelley in which to compare Trump.

Both were in the news for allegedly participating in golden showers. Hence, the comparison.

Watching hookers pee on an object is not the same as a "golden shower".

I'll defer to your expertise on the nuances of urine play.

Smart move on your part. As a student of behavioral psychology, human sexuality, and it's perverse deviations from the norm, such as pedophiles like R. Kelley and chronic adulterers like Trump, Clinton, etc, have always been a favorite area of study.

 

[tyroneweaver]

And from the looks of things in social media, they are succeeding. And they are doing it by telling lies.

Trump did not institute a Muslim ban. Anyone looking at the fact that the media is also trying to claim trump is a hypocrite for not banning all Muslims should tell you that.

The executive order does not effect citizens or people who already have green cards. They are lying about that too.

Even David French one of the staunchest never trumpers is pointing out that the portraying of this order is incorrect.

Now people are angry because they are afraid. Not because of something trump did buy because the media is lying about it.

If you are angry take a step back. Calm down. Look at what the order actually says. A temporary restriction to countries where Isis can gain access to refugee populations until a getting process is not a Muslim ban. Nor is it unreasonable. Obama should have put a procedure in place when it became known Isis was infiltrating refugees.

Don't let yourself be drawn into the lie. Anger leads to bad things. Hopefully the mob will do minimal damage today

Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:

 

[Claudette]

And from the looks of things in social media, they are succeeding. And they are doing it by telling lies.

Trump did not institute a Muslim ban. Anyone looking at the fact that the media is also trying to claim trump is a hypocrite for not banning all Muslims should tell you that.

The executive order does not effect citizens or people who already have green cards. They are lying about that too.

Even David French one of the staunchest never trumpers is pointing out that the portraying of this order is incorrect.

Now people are angry because they are afraid. Not because of something trump did buy because the media is lying about it.

If you are angry take a step back. Calm down. Look at what the order actually says. A temporary restriction to countries where Isis can gain access to refugee populations until a getting process is not a Muslim ban. Nor is it unreasonable. Obama should have put a procedure in place when it became known Isis was infiltrating refugees.

Don't let yourself be drawn into the lie. Anger leads to bad things. Hopefully the mob will do minimal damage today

You didn't really expect that any of these lamebrains would actually read the order and actually find out exactly what it does did you??

They would rather bitch moan protest and complain and oh yeah, undermine Trump.

 

[beagle9]

Watch carefully the actions of all these leftist groups with their fears now, and how they are going slam bezerk crazy in it all now. They were pushing their agenda's so hard against the American people's will, and the will to resist them, (and if they did resist them), then they were using the power of the federal government over the years to get their way against the people's will. They can't believe that the American people finally got representation again. They can't believe how that representation is pushing back against some of the crazy stuff that they have been pushing on Americans over the years now. Actually they are shocked themselves where as they couldn't actually believe that people were not pushing back against some of the craziness they had going, and now people see in the latest uprising just how obvious it has all become.