The moderator ignorant about Social Security

[Wolfstrike]

Politicians and the media insist on pushing lies about Social Security.

It doesn't take very much research to find out the truth, which to me, shows what little respect these people have for the public.

The moderator said Social Security will go bankrupt in the 2030's

Here's the real story...

Normally , people would vote more conservative as they get older but Roosevelt and the Democrats hijacked the souls of old people by giving them a small federal pension that would always be in danger.

SS in now guaranteed by the general fund, so it's not "going bankrupt"

The last Social Security plan was set up by Reagan , Greenspan, and ?

33 is a Masonic number, that's why that date 2033 was chosen. The current rules for the SS plan expire in 2033, so the government is going to have to make new rules.

Certainly people, like me, who collect after 2033 will receive reduced benefits with raised collection ages, and the people working at the time will pay a higher SS tax.

The people of the future are not going to be happy little worker bees with money to spare, employment for them will be far more turbulent. Don't even ask what these people will be forced to pay for Obamacare.

No political candidate wants to discuss the issue. Usually the Democrats play their role and keep senior votes by promising full benefits they can't deliver, and Republicans play their role and lose senior votes by trying to tell the truth the program can't sustain itself.



If you look at the original bill passed by Roosevelt, they can raise the age to 75, and they promised a tax "people wouldn't notice"

 

[Mousterian]

The question of Social Security is inextricably tied to Taxation.
And it is the Taxation system that needs to be reformed to reflect the new economic reality.
The belief that 'American jobs are being outsourced to (insert favoriite xenophobic target)', is really just a dog-whistle used to garner votes from disaffected losers in the game.
The fact is, jobs are being 'stolen' by Technology, as robots displace more and more semi-skilled workers.
No amount of jingoistic protectionism will resolve this situation. In fact, as our trading partners react in kind, this behaviour will make the plight of the unemployed much worse.
What Government needs to do, is screw substantial tax revenues from the companies who are thriving in the new environment, while employing ever smaller numbers of human workers.
Of course, while the successful companies continue to blatantly buy our Representatives, and those Representatives continue to grow fat on the profits, no real reform is possible.
We would do well to adopt the New Zealand model of political donations, which severely limits not only the amount of donations possible, but also the total amount of Television advertising allowed.

 

[tyroneweaver]

The question of Social Security is inextricably tied to Taxation.
And it is the Taxation system that needs to be reformed to reflect the new economic reality.
The belief that 'American jobs are being outsourced to (insert favoriite xenophobic target)', is really just a dog-whistle used to garner votes from disaffected losers in the game.
The fact is, jobs are being 'stolen' by Technology, as robots displace more and more semi-skilled workers.
No amount of jingoistic protectionism will resolve this situation. In fact, as our trading partners react in kind, this behaviour will make the plight of the unemployed much worse.
What Government needs to do, is screw substantial tax revenues from the companies who are thriving in the new environment, while employing ever smaller numbers of human workers.
Of course, while the successful companies continue to blatantly buy our Representatives, and those Representatives continue to grow fat on the profits, no real reform is possible.
We would do well to adopt the New Zealand model of political donations, which severely limits not only the amount of donations possible, but also the total amount of Television advertising allowed.

The Dems including Hillary can whine all they want about political donations but up and until they're willing to not accept union money they are totally disingenuous.