The Mystery Of Bernie Sanders Crowds.Did Most Of Them Fail Basic Math?

[rightwinger]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

Ahh Well the answer is obvious then. Let everyone out of prison and gut our military. Easy smeasy.

Once again it comes down to our priorities

If we were to cut military spending by 20% ...how many American lives would be lost?
If we increased healthcare spending by 20%....how many American lives would be saved?

We have five times the prison population we had in 1980....did it make us safer?
If we reduced prison population to what it was under Reagan amd invested the savings into education, how much would that help our economy?

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

Ahh Well the answer is obvious then. Let everyone out of prison and gut our military. Easy smeasy.

Putin would appreciate that.

Lets see how much Putin can appreciate

The US spends 41 cents out of every military dollar worldwide. Putin spends 4 cents

I can see why you would be terrified of Mr Putin if we only spent 33 cents out of every dollar. Keep in mind, with our allies UK, France, Japan and Germany we are spending 55 cents out of every military dollar worldwide

 

[the_human_being]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

Ahh Well the answer is obvious then. Let everyone out of prison and gut our military. Easy smeasy.

Putin would appreciate that.

Lets see how much Putin can appreciate

The US spends 41 cents out of every military dollar worldwide. Putin spends 4 cents

I can see why you would be terrified of Mr Putin if we only spent 33 cents out of every dollar. Keep in mind, with our allies UK, France, Japan and Germany we are spending 55 cents out of every military dollar worldwide

So???

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

The question remains, Where are you going to get the money? Please tell us. When you decide to reply, please remember that whichever Socialist wins, he/she will face a Republican Congress.

Once again...it is a question of where US priorities are

If we didn't spend 41 cents of every military dollar worldwide, we could spend more on healthcare
If we didn't pay for 2.4 million Americans in prison, we could pay more for education

Other countries manage to do that and have better healthcare and better schools than we do

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

Ahh Well the answer is obvious then. Let everyone out of prison and gut our military. Easy smeasy.

Putin would appreciate that.

Lets see how much Putin can appreciate

The US spends 41 cents out of every military dollar worldwide. Putin spends 4 cents

I can see why you would be terrified of Mr Putin if we only spent 33 cents out of every dollar. Keep in mind, with our allies UK, France, Japan and Germany we are spending 55 cents out of every military dollar worldwide

So???

So why would you be shitting your pants over Putin?

 

[GHook93]

You have to wonder, right? They cheer on all of the "Free-Stuff Bullchit" as if Obama has a surplus of 20 trillion dollars. Maybe we need to get some reporters to attend the rallies and ask some of his uninformed fans where Bernie is going to get the money for free college and health-care when we already owe 18 trillion dollars.
Then we may get answers like "Huh? what?, uh,,,,whats a trillion dollars? is that like a few million?"
Or someone might say, "Uhhh, what? what's a national debt?"

The national debt is a foreign far away concept to most leftist, young people, BLACKS and LATINOS! They don't feel it in their every day life, the majority Blacks and Latinos are too uneducated to understand concept like the ramifications of this debt bubble continuing to grow. They see free stuff that the government (not tax payers) provide, because the government is rich. They don't see that growing debt will eventually destroy this country.

 

[rightwinger]

You have to wonder, right? They cheer on all of the "Free-Stuff Bullchit" as if Obama has a surplus of 20 trillion dollars. Maybe we need to get some reporters to attend the rallies and ask some of his uninformed fans where Bernie is going to get the money for free college and health-care when we already owe 18 trillion dollars.
Then we may get answers like "Huh? what?, uh,,,,whats a trillion dollars? is that like a few million?"
Or someone might say, "Uhhh, what? what's a national debt?"

The national debt is a foreign far away concept to most leftist, young people, BLACKS and LATINOS! They don't feel it in their every day life, the majority Blacks and Latinos are too uneducated to understand concept like the ramifications of this debt bubble continuing to grow. They see free stuff that the government (not tax payers) provide, because the government is rich. They don't see that growing debt will eventually destroy this country.

Conservatives never cared about the national debt while they were running it up

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No more payroll deductions for healthcare, no more medical benefits at the center of every contract negotiation? Oh, how horrible that would be.

No more payroll deductions?
What the hell do you think taxes are?

 

[GHook93]

Bernie wont take any questions regarding the debt, just kick the can down the road, deal with the 20 trillion later on.

Bernie Answer, "What debt that is a Republican conspiracy to destroy the working man, small businesses, increase the racial divide and to end medicare and social security!

 

[GHook93]

You have to wonder, right? They cheer on all of the "Free-Stuff Bullchit" as if Obama has a surplus of 20 trillion dollars. Maybe we need to get some reporters to attend the rallies and ask some of his uninformed fans where Bernie is going to get the money for free college and health-care when we already owe 18 trillion dollars.
Then we may get answers like "Huh? what?, uh,,,,whats a trillion dollars? is that like a few million?"
Or someone might say, "Uhhh, what? what's a national debt?"

The national debt is a foreign far away concept to most leftist, young people, BLACKS and LATINOS! They don't feel it in their every day life, the majority Blacks and Latinos are too uneducated to understand concept like the ramifications of this debt bubble continuing to grow. They see free stuff that the government (not tax payers) provide, because the government is rich. They don't see that growing debt will eventually destroy this country.

Conservatives never cared about the national debt while they were running it up

Nice red herring buddy. Just like the anti-war Democrats (e.g Code Pink) are only anti-war when a Republican is at the helm but are firmly pro-War (Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo, Libya etc) when a Democrat is at the helm.

Did you ever hear the saying, "Two wrongs don't make a right!" I guess that only applies when Republicans also!

 

[Katzndogz]

Bernie Sanders' ideal socialist democracy is Venezuela. How is that working out?

 

[the_human_being]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

The question remains, Where are you going to get the money? Please tell us. When you decide to reply, please remember that whichever Socialist wins, he/she will face a Republican Congress.

Once again...it is a question of where US priorities are

If we didn't spend 41 cents of every military dollar worldwide, we could spend more on healthcare
If we didn't pay for 2.4 million Americans in prison, we could pay more for education

Other countries manage to do that and have better healthcare and better schools than we do

Perhaps you should move to one of those "other countries"?

 

[the_human_being]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

Ahh Well the answer is obvious then. Let everyone out of prison and gut our military. Easy smeasy.

Putin would appreciate that.

Lets see how much Putin can appreciate

The US spends 41 cents out of every military dollar worldwide. Putin spends 4 cents

I can see why you would be terrified of Mr Putin if we only spent 33 cents out of every dollar. Keep in mind, with our allies UK, France, Japan and Germany we are spending 55 cents out of every military dollar worldwide

So???

So why would you be shitting your pants over Putin?

I'm not. Why are you defending failed policies?

 

[DGS49]

A few observations:

(a) The Federal Government has no legitimate power to spend money on education or healthcare. Read the Constitution; it won't take long.

(b) The problems with "education" will not be solved by an infusion of more money, whether it originates with the Feds or the State governments, nor are any of our significant educational "problems" the result of not enough money. The proof of this fact is staring us in the face. Public education spending, both absolutely and on a per-pupil basis has skyrocketed in the past five decades at a rate far greater than inflation, and we have bupkis to show for it. More money: more waste.

(c) Sending more Americans (and illegal aliens) to college is a preposterous prescription for any problem we may be experiencing. No more than 25% of any society can be "leaders" (the ostensible purpose of colleges and universities), and we are already sending more than half of our high school grads to college. As a result, the colleges are wasting resources on remedial and bullshit courses to accommodate the millions of students who are simply not "college material."

(d) The U.S. is the world's only "Superpower," and MUST spend more on military readiness and operations than any other country. Without the threat of U.S. military action, many parts of the world would quickly devolve into barbaric, Darwinian hell-holes, where countries would constantly attack the neighboring countries they perceive to be weaker. What would China and North Korea be doing today without the threat of U.S. counter-measures? What would Russia be doing? Look at the harm that Barry's incompetence has already done. Would Israel even exist if we backed down? "Cutting military spending" is a childish, sophomoric, unserious form of thought masturbation.

(e) Yes, we ARE much safer as a result of the dramatic increase in incarcerations. It is almost laughable at how often one hears news "reporters" puzzling over why prison populations have exploded "even though" the serious crime rates are down. Their inability to see the obvious connection is hilarious.

(f) Countries that have socialized medicine made a formal decision to go in that direction many decades ago, and developed their healthcare delivery systems (and the tax provisions to fund it) accordingly. The Government owns the hospitals and clinics, employs the doctors, nurses, and other practitioners, and controls the vast majority of spending. Even if you ignore the fact that the U.S. government is constitutionally prohibited from doing the same here, our entire healthcare delivery system has evolved under ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PARADIGMS. Our doctors are NOT going to go to work for the government; the government is not going to buy the hospitals, and the health insurance industry (which would be essentially superfluous) is not going to go away over night.

The Democrat presidential campaign is basically a sham. Regardless of who wins, we will have an utterly predictable continuation of the Obama policies, appointment of more lawless federal judges and justices, and the continued erosion of the application of the U.S. Constitution. The only question to be decided by the primary voters is whether HRC is SO odious a candidate that she could actually lose, so that someone else would have to be plugged in to take her place. If it appears that Democrat voters are going that way (i.e., rejecting HRC), then Joe Biden (or Al Gore?) will step in, but the result will be the same.

The election will ultimately be determined by the turnout of white, working-class people, who are the only constituency who can outnumber the freaks and government teat-suckers who will massively vote for whomever the Dems nominate.

 

[rightwinger]

You have to wonder, right? They cheer on all of the "Free-Stuff Bullchit" as if Obama has a surplus of 20 trillion dollars. Maybe we need to get some reporters to attend the rallies and ask some of his uninformed fans where Bernie is going to get the money for free college and health-care when we already owe 18 trillion dollars.
Then we may get answers like "Huh? what?, uh,,,,whats a trillion dollars? is that like a few million?"
Or someone might say, "Uhhh, what? what's a national debt?"

The national debt is a foreign far away concept to most leftist, young people, BLACKS and LATINOS! They don't feel it in their every day life, the majority Blacks and Latinos are too uneducated to understand concept like the ramifications of this debt bubble continuing to grow. They see free stuff that the government (not tax payers) provide, because the government is rich. They don't see that growing debt will eventually destroy this country.

Conservatives never cared about the national debt while they were running it up

Nice red herring buddy. Just like the anti-war Democrats (e.g Code Pink) are only anti-war when a Republican is at the helm but are firmly pro-War (Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo, Libya etc) when a Democrat is at the helm.

Did you ever hear the saying, "Two wrongs don't make a right!" I guess that only applies when Republicans also!

You raised the issue so how is it a red herring?

 

[rightwinger]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

The question remains, Where are you going to get the money? Please tell us. When you decide to reply, please remember that whichever Socialist wins, he/she will face a Republican Congress.

Once again...it is a question of where US priorities are

If we didn't spend 41 cents of every military dollar worldwide, we could spend more on healthcare
If we didn't pay for 2.4 million Americans in prison, we could pay more for education

Other countries manage to do that and have better healthcare and better schools than we do

Perhaps you should move to one of those "other countries"?

What a stupid response

 

[rightwinger]

Ahh Well the answer is obvious then. Let everyone out of prison and gut our military. Easy smeasy.

Putin would appreciate that.

Lets see how much Putin can appreciate

The US spends 41 cents out of every military dollar worldwide. Putin spends 4 cents

I can see why you would be terrified of Mr Putin if we only spent 33 cents out of every dollar. Keep in mind, with our allies UK, France, Japan and Germany we are spending 55 cents out of every military dollar worldwide

So???

So why would you be shitting your pants over Putin?

I'm not. Why are you defending failed policies?

Is the US overspending on prisons and the military a failed policy?

Yes it is

In spite of rightwing fear mongering, it does not keep us safer

 

[rightwinger]

A few observations:

(a) The Federal Government has no legitimate power to spend money on education or healthcare. Read the Constitution; it won't take long.

(b) The problems with "education" will not be solved by an infusion of more money, whether it originates with the Feds or the State governments, nor are any of our significant educational "problems" the result of not enough money. The proof of this fact is staring us in the face. Public education spending, both absolutely and on a per-pupil basis has skyrocketed in the past five decades at a rate far greater than inflation, and we have bupkis to show for it. More money: more waste.

(c) Sending more Americans (and illegal aliens) to college is a preposterous prescription for any problem we may be experiencing. No more than 25% of any society can be "leaders" (the ostensible purpose of colleges and universities), and we are already sending more than half of our high school grads to college. As a result, the colleges are wasting resources on remedial and bullshit courses to accommodate the millions of students who are simply not "college material."

(d) The U.S. is the world's only "Superpower," and MUST spend more on military readiness and operations than any other country. Without the threat of U.S. military action, many parts of the world would quickly devolve into barbaric, Darwinian hell-holes, where countries would constantly attack the neighboring countries they perceive to be weaker. What would China and North Korea be doing today without the threat of U.S. counter-measures? What would Russia be doing? Look at the harm that Barry's incompetence has already done. Would Israel even exist if we backed down? "Cutting military spending" is a childish, sophomoric, unserious form of thought masturbation.

(e) Yes, we ARE much safer as a result of the dramatic increase in incarcerations. It is almost laughable at how often one hears news "reporters" puzzling over why prison populations have exploded "even though" the serious crime rates are down. Their inability to see the obvious connection is hilarious.

(f) Countries that have socialized medicine made a formal decision to go in that direction many decades ago, and developed their healthcare delivery systems (and the tax provisions to fund it) accordingly. The Government owns the hospitals and clinics, employs the doctors, nurses, and other practitioners, and controls the vast majority of spending. Even if you ignore the fact that the U.S. government is constitutionally prohibited from doing the same here, our entire healthcare delivery system has evolved under ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PARADIGMS. Our doctors are NOT going to go to work for the government; the government is not going to buy the hospitals, and the health insurance industry (which would be essentially superfluous) is not going to go away over night.

The Democrat presidential campaign is basically a sham. Regardless of who wins, we will have an utterly predictable continuation of the Obama policies, appointment of more lawless federal judges and justices, and the continued erosion of the application of the U.S. Constitution. The only question to be decided by the primary voters is whether HRC is SO odious a candidate that she could actually lose, so that someone else would have to be plugged in to take her place. If it appears that Democrat voters are going that way (i.e., rejecting HRC), then Joe Biden (or Al Gore?) will step in, but the result will be the same.

The election will ultimately be determined by the turnout of white, working-class people, who are the only constituency who can outnumber the freaks and government teat-suckers who will massively vote for whomever the Dems nominate.

We have five times the number of incarcerations than we did before the "war on drugs"

Incarcerating non violent offenders, three strikes rules for minor offenses, mandatory sentencing for drug offenders...all have escallated our prison population without making us safer

 

[the_human_being]

Bernie is demonized for wanting to spend on healthcare and education

But where will we get the money? scream the conservatives

Yet we always find the money to build more prisons or invade and occupy another country

The question remains, Where are you going to get the money? Please tell us. When you decide to reply, please remember that whichever Socialist wins, he/she will face a Republican Congress.

Once again...it is a question of where US priorities are

If we didn't spend 41 cents of every military dollar worldwide, we could spend more on healthcare
If we didn't pay for 2.4 million Americans in prison, we could pay more for education

Other countries manage to do that and have better healthcare and better schools than we do

Perhaps you should move to one of those "other countries"?

What a stupid response

Not really. You appear to relish pointing out America's failures. Move.

 

[the_human_being]

Putin would appreciate that.

Lets see how much Putin can appreciate

The US spends 41 cents out of every military dollar worldwide. Putin spends 4 cents

I can see why you would be terrified of Mr Putin if we only spent 33 cents out of every dollar. Keep in mind, with our allies UK, France, Japan and Germany we are spending 55 cents out of every military dollar worldwide

So???

So why would you be shitting your pants over Putin?

I'm not. Why are you defending failed policies?

Is the US overspending on prisons and the military a failed policy?

Yes it is

In spite of rightwing fear mongering, it does not keep us safer

Protest to your Democrat President then. Tell him to quit sending troops and military ammo all over the world.