The NRA is doing it wrong

[brummelben]

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Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

You are confused about this Moon Bat.

There are many places in this country with significant ownership of firearms and very few restrictions that have very little crime with firearms.

Meanwhile in Democrat controlled Chicago and most other big city shitholes governor by Liberals with tough gun control laws there is rampant crime.

The two factors that you are having a difficult time understanding is Democrat control and ineffective gun control laws. You are unable to coronet the dot like most Moon Bats. That is one of the many reason we ridicule you so much for your stupidity.

Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens by taking away their right of self defense. They nothing to stop crime.

If the NRA was smart they wouldn't try to defeat this Crooked Hillary asshole. They would just make a sizable donation to the Clinton Foundation money laundering operation and the problem would go away.

Your comments about the Clinton Foundation only go to prove your ignorance, yet you give the trump Foundation a free pass? They are innocent of all wrong doing?

 

[Divine Wind]

The NRA is doing it wrong with Crooked Hillary.

Instead of spending money to defeat the filthy ass bitch they should do like all the other special interest groups and buy her off. She is for sale so why not just buy her?

Funny, but I doubt the NRA can outspend the LW interests invested in Hillary.

 

[brummelben]

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Its your choice, just not mine. I have lived a long time without a weapon and don't need one now

That is fine Moon Bat. Nobody is forcing you to own a firearm if you don't want to own one or don't have the courage to take personal responsibility for your safety.

Just shut the fuck up about me owing one and stay the hell out of trying to restrict my Constitutional rights.

The chance of you're ever needing to use your gun is greater than the chance of being hit by lightning, but when the time comes and you need to use it, the chances are much greater that an innocent person will be shot. Enjoy it

Did it hurt a lot when you pulled that out of your ass......you should get some cream for that....

According to bill clinton's Department of Justice and their research into gun self defense, Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals and to save lives......

And on top of that moron.....in the 1990s we had 200 million guns in private hands and 1.2 million people carrying guns for self defense.....

Now, in 2016, we have 357 million guns in private hands and about 15 million people carrying guns for self defense...

And you know what twit....our gun murder rate over that period went down 49%, and our gun accidental death and non fatatl gun accident rate both went down, not up.

So you have no fucking idea what you are talking about....

 

[2aguy]

Trump kicked her ass with his Chicago answer, whereby Chicago has the strictest gun laws and the most gun violence. No need to give the bitch any money, the sheiks are overpaying her already.

Sorry fella, but Chicago does NOT have the strictest gun laws and most gun violence. Why not look up some facts?

How about these facts Moon Bat?

HeyJackass!


Illustrating Chicago Values


October to Date

Shot & Killed: 44
Shot & Wounded: 252
Total Shot: 296
Total Homicides: 46


Week in Progress (10/16 – 10/22)

Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 68
Total Shot: 79
Total Homicides: 11

Year to Date

Shot & Killed: 551
Shot & Wounded: 3006
Total Shot: 3557
Total Homicides: 616

Help me here, your point is?
1. Too many guns?
2. Too easy to buy guns?
3. Too easy to obtain guns?

The point Moon Bat that is in Democrat controlled Chicago with very tough firearm regulations the gun laws do absolutely nothing to stop murders. Lots of murders.

It doesn't surprise me that you Moon Bats are too stupid to understand that.

Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

Okay genius....please explain your point.....

Chicago has the same gun control laws as New York and L.A........and higher gun murder rates...

New York is as close to Vermont...with virtually no gun laws, as Chicago is to Georgia, where many guns come from...are you telling us taht New York gangs can't find Vermont on a map....

You morons talk out of your asses and have no clue about what you bring out....

 

[2aguy]

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Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

You are confused about this Moon Bat.

There are many places in this country with significant ownership of firearms and very few restrictions that have very little crime with firearms.

Meanwhile in Democrat controlled Chicago and most other big city shitholes governor by Liberals with tough gun control laws there is rampant crime.

The two factors that you are having a difficult time understanding is Democrat control and ineffective gun control laws. You are unable to coronet the dot like most Moon Bats. That is one of the many reason we ridicule you so much for your stupidity.

Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens by taking away their right of self defense. They nothing to stop crime.

If the NRA was smart they wouldn't try to defeat this Crooked Hillary asshole. They would just make a sizable donation to the Clinton Foundation money laundering operation and the problem would go away.

Your comments about the Clinton Foundation only go to prove your ignorance, yet you give the trump Foundation a free pass? They are innocent of all wrong doing?

Hilary was the fucking secretary of state when she was excepting foreign donations to the clinton foundation you twit....she got 12 million dollars from Morocco and gave them 96 million dollars in U.S. loan garauntees....and used the State Department to award 14.2 billion dollars in Haiti Earthquake relief contracts to donors to the clinton foundation...

her corruption is as vast as it has been evil....

 

[brummelben]

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Its your choice, just not mine. I have lived a long time without a weapon and don't need one now

That is fine Moon Bat. Nobody is forcing you to own a firearm if you don't want to own one or don't have the courage to take personal responsibility for your safety.

Just shut the fuck up about me owing one and stay the hell out of trying to restrict my Constitutional rights.

The chance of you're ever needing to use your gun is greater than the chance of being hit by lightning, but when the time comes and you need to use it, the chances are much greater that an innocent person will be shot. Enjoy it

Did it hurt a lot when you pulled that out of your ass......you should get some cream for that....

According to bill clinton's Department of Justice and their research into gun self defense, Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals and to save lives......

And on top of that moron.....in the 1990s we had 200 million guns in private hands and 1.2 million people carrying guns for self defense.....

Now, in 2016, we have 357 million guns in private hands and about 15 million people carrying guns for self defense...

And you know what twit....our gun murder rate over that period went down 49%, and our gun accidental death and non fatatl gun accident rate both went down, not up.

So you have no fucking idea what you are talking about....

Why don't we talk about not only gun deaths, but the number of people wounded by guns

 

[2aguy]

Trump kicked her ass with his Chicago answer, whereby Chicago has the strictest gun laws and the most gun violence. No need to give the bitch any money, the sheiks are overpaying her already.

Sorry fella, but Chicago does NOT have the strictest gun laws and most gun violence. Why not look up some facts?

How about these facts Moon Bat?

HeyJackass!


Illustrating Chicago Values


October to Date

Shot & Killed: 44
Shot & Wounded: 252
Total Shot: 296
Total Homicides: 46


Week in Progress (10/16 – 10/22)

Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 68
Total Shot: 79
Total Homicides: 11

Year to Date

Shot & Killed: 551
Shot & Wounded: 3006
Total Shot: 3557
Total Homicides: 616

Help me here, your point is?
1. Too many guns?
2. Too easy to buy guns?
3. Too easy to obtain guns?

The point Moon Bat that is in Democrat controlled Chicago with very tough firearm regulations the gun laws do absolutely nothing to stop murders. Lots of murders.

It doesn't surprise me that you Moon Bats are too stupid to understand that.

Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

Moron...the gun laws in the Suburbs are the same as for Chicago....the gangs use straw buyers, people with clean records to buy their guns or they break into gun stores and steal them.........you are so fucking dumb...are you like this naturally or do you practice at it?

 

[2aguy]

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Its your choice, just not mine. I have lived a long time without a weapon and don't need one now

That is fine Moon Bat. Nobody is forcing you to own a firearm if you don't want to own one or don't have the courage to take personal responsibility for your safety.

Just shut the fuck up about me owing one and stay the hell out of trying to restrict my Constitutional rights.

The chance of you're ever needing to use your gun is greater than the chance of being hit by lightning, but when the time comes and you need to use it, the chances are much greater that an innocent person will be shot. Enjoy it

Did it hurt a lot when you pulled that out of your ass......you should get some cream for that....

According to bill clinton's Department of Justice and their research into gun self defense, Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals and to save lives......

And on top of that moron.....in the 1990s we had 200 million guns in private hands and 1.2 million people carrying guns for self defense.....

Now, in 2016, we have 357 million guns in private hands and about 15 million people carrying guns for self defense...

And you know what twit....our gun murder rate over that period went down 49%, and our gun accidental death and non fatatl gun accident rate both went down, not up.

So you have no fucking idea what you are talking about....

Why don't we talk about not only gun deaths, but the number of people wounded by guns

Those are going down too genius...but nice try.......

 

[brummelben]

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Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

You are confused about this Moon Bat.

There are many places in this country with significant ownership of firearms and very few restrictions that have very little crime with firearms.

Meanwhile in Democrat controlled Chicago and most other big city shitholes governor by Liberals with tough gun control laws there is rampant crime.

The two factors that you are having a difficult time understanding is Democrat control and ineffective gun control laws. You are unable to coronet the dot like most Moon Bats. That is one of the many reason we ridicule you so much for your stupidity.

Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens by taking away their right of self defense. They nothing to stop crime.

If the NRA was smart they wouldn't try to defeat this Crooked Hillary asshole. They would just make a sizable donation to the Clinton Foundation money laundering operation and the problem would go away.

Your comments about the Clinton Foundation only go to prove your ignorance, yet you give the trump Foundation a free pass? They are innocent of all wrong doing?

Hilary was the fucking secretary of state when she was excepting foreign donations to the clinton foundation you twit....she got 12 million dollars from Morocco and gave them 96 million dollars in U.S. loan garauntees....and used the State Department to award 14.2 billion dollars in Haiti Earthquake relief contracts to donors to the clinton foundation...

her corruption is as vast as it has been evil....

The secretary of state does not hand out foreign aid, its congress who authorizes any foreign aid. OOPSIE
And she does not hand out loan guarantees, that is the export import bank- OOPSIE

 

[brummelben]

Sorry fella, but Chicago does NOT have the strictest gun laws and most gun violence. Why not look up some facts?

How about these facts Moon Bat?

HeyJackass!


Illustrating Chicago Values


October to Date

Shot & Killed: 44
Shot & Wounded: 252
Total Shot: 296
Total Homicides: 46


Week in Progress (10/16 – 10/22)

Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 68
Total Shot: 79
Total Homicides: 11

Year to Date

Shot & Killed: 551
Shot & Wounded: 3006
Total Shot: 3557
Total Homicides: 616

Help me here, your point is?
1. Too many guns?
2. Too easy to buy guns?
3. Too easy to obtain guns?

The point Moon Bat that is in Democrat controlled Chicago with very tough firearm regulations the gun laws do absolutely nothing to stop murders. Lots of murders.

It doesn't surprise me that you Moon Bats are too stupid to understand that.

Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

Moron...the gun laws in the Suburbs are the same as for Chicago....the gangs use straw buyers, people with clean records to buy their guns or they break into gun stores and steal them.........you are so fucking dumb...are you like this naturally or do you practice at it?

There are no guns shops in Chicago, but any gangbanger with a clean record can buy all the weapons they want just a short distance away

 

[2aguy]

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Its your choice, just not mine. I have lived a long time without a weapon and don't need one now

That is fine Moon Bat. Nobody is forcing you to own a firearm if you don't want to own one or don't have the courage to take personal responsibility for your safety.

Just shut the fuck up about me owing one and stay the hell out of trying to restrict my Constitutional rights.

The chance of you're ever needing to use your gun is greater than the chance of being hit by lightning, but when the time comes and you need to use it, the chances are much greater that an innocent person will be shot. Enjoy it

Did it hurt a lot when you pulled that out of your ass......you should get some cream for that....

According to bill clinton's Department of Justice and their research into gun self defense, Americans use guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals and to save lives......

And on top of that moron.....in the 1990s we had 200 million guns in private hands and 1.2 million people carrying guns for self defense.....

Now, in 2016, we have 357 million guns in private hands and about 15 million people carrying guns for self defense...

And you know what twit....our gun murder rate over that period went down 49%, and our gun accidental death and non fatatl gun accident rate both went down, not up.

So you have no fucking idea what you are talking about....

Why don't we talk about not only gun deaths, but the number of people wounded by guns

Here you go......the actual stats from the CDC going back to the 1990s....as you can see...200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 1.2 million people carrying guns for self defense.....

2016....357 million guns in private hands and close to 15 million guns in private hands...

And the non fatal gun accident rate went down, not up....

How Many Accidental Gun Injuries per Year? - The Volokh Conspiracy

A guest on the HuffPost Live discussion noted in the post below mentioned that guns injure 5,000 people per year (presumably in the U.S.). Actually, according to CDC’s WISQARS, there are about 14,000-19,000 nonfatal injuries stemming from accidental shootings per year in the U.S., though only about 600 people killed in such shootings. As always, keep in mind the limitations of this data, including that some suicides and suicide attempts could be misclassified as accidents.

WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

CDC non fatal gun accident.....



Non fatal gun injury stats from 1999......

Nonfatal and Fatal Firearm-Related Injuries -- United States, 1993-1997
1993... 104,390
1994... 89,744
1995... 84,322
1996... 69,649
1997... 64,207
Surveillance for Fatal and Nonfatal Firearm-Related Injuries --- United States, 1993--1998
1998... 79,384
WISQARS Nonfatal Injury Reports

CDC non fatal gun accident.....

2001.... 17,696

2002... 17,579

2003... 18,941

2004... 16,555

2005... 15,388

2006... 14,678

2007... 15,698

2008... 17,215

2009... 18,610

2010... 14,161

2011... 14,675

2012... 17,362

2013... 16,864

2014..... 15,928

Can you tell which number is bigger.....?

You are wrong on every single aspect of the gun debate, every single one.....

 

[2aguy]

[
Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

You are confused about this Moon Bat.

There are many places in this country with significant ownership of firearms and very few restrictions that have very little crime with firearms.

Meanwhile in Democrat controlled Chicago and most other big city shitholes governor by Liberals with tough gun control laws there is rampant crime.

The two factors that you are having a difficult time understanding is Democrat control and ineffective gun control laws. You are unable to coronet the dot like most Moon Bats. That is one of the many reason we ridicule you so much for your stupidity.

Gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens by taking away their right of self defense. They nothing to stop crime.

If the NRA was smart they wouldn't try to defeat this Crooked Hillary asshole. They would just make a sizable donation to the Clinton Foundation money laundering operation and the problem would go away.

Your comments about the Clinton Foundation only go to prove your ignorance, yet you give the trump Foundation a free pass? They are innocent of all wrong doing?

Hilary was the fucking secretary of state when she was excepting foreign donations to the clinton foundation you twit....she got 12 million dollars from Morocco and gave them 96 million dollars in U.S. loan garauntees....and used the State Department to award 14.2 billion dollars in Haiti Earthquake relief contracts to donors to the clinton foundation...

her corruption is as vast as it has been evil....

The secretary of state does not hand out foreign aid, its congress who authorizes any foreign aid. OOPSIE
And she does not hand out loan guarantees, that is the export import bank- OOPSIE

Moron.....she has her fingers all over it....and they gave the State Dept. control over the contracts for haiti...twit....

 

[2aguy]

How about these facts Moon Bat?

HeyJackass!


Illustrating Chicago Values


October to Date

Shot & Killed: 44
Shot & Wounded: 252
Total Shot: 296
Total Homicides: 46


Week in Progress (10/16 – 10/22)

Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 68
Total Shot: 79
Total Homicides: 11

Year to Date

Shot & Killed: 551
Shot & Wounded: 3006
Total Shot: 3557
Total Homicides: 616

Help me here, your point is?
1. Too many guns?
2. Too easy to buy guns?
3. Too easy to obtain guns?

The point Moon Bat that is in Democrat controlled Chicago with very tough firearm regulations the gun laws do absolutely nothing to stop murders. Lots of murders.

It doesn't surprise me that you Moon Bats are too stupid to understand that.

Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

Moron...the gun laws in the Suburbs are the same as for Chicago....the gangs use straw buyers, people with clean records to buy their guns or they break into gun stores and steal them.........you are so fucking dumb...are you like this naturally or do you practice at it?

There are no guns shops in Chicago, but any gangbanger with a clean record can buy all the weapons they want just a short distance away

As can any other citizen any where in the country moron....that is the point...if you have a clean record you can buy a gun...gang bangers don't have clean records....90% of gun murders in this country are committed by criminals with long histories of crime and felonies which means they can't buy, own or carry guns....they use people with clean records to buy their guns and they can do that anywhere in the country twit....

 

[2aguy]

How about these facts Moon Bat?

HeyJackass!


Illustrating Chicago Values


October to Date

Shot & Killed: 44
Shot & Wounded: 252
Total Shot: 296
Total Homicides: 46


Week in Progress (10/16 – 10/22)

Shot & Killed: 11
Shot & Wounded: 68
Total Shot: 79
Total Homicides: 11

Year to Date

Shot & Killed: 551
Shot & Wounded: 3006
Total Shot: 3557
Total Homicides: 616

Help me here, your point is?
1. Too many guns?
2. Too easy to buy guns?
3. Too easy to obtain guns?

The point Moon Bat that is in Democrat controlled Chicago with very tough firearm regulations the gun laws do absolutely nothing to stop murders. Lots of murders.

It doesn't surprise me that you Moon Bats are too stupid to understand that.

Einstein, lets make this simple for you. Gun laws in any jurisdiction mean nothing. Just like Chicago where all you need to do is drive a few miles out of town and bring home all the weapons you want.

Moron...the gun laws in the Suburbs are the same as for Chicago....the gangs use straw buyers, people with clean records to buy their guns or they break into gun stores and steal them.........you are so fucking dumb...are you like this naturally or do you practice at it?

There are no guns shops in Chicago, but any gangbanger with a clean record can buy all the weapons they want just a short distance away

And if they had gun stores in Chicago they could buy guns there.......they use their baby mommas and grandmas to buy their guns....

 

[HappyJoy]

Trump kicked her ass with his Chicago answer, whereby Chicago has the strictest gun laws and the most gun violence. No need to give the bitch any money, the sheiks are overpaying her already.

Chicago is smack dab in the middle of the Mid West where there are lax gun laws.

Nope....chicago has all the gun laws that New York and L.A. have and has higher gun murder numbers than both of them.....there are no lax gun laws here....

What you really have, twit....are racist activists who have been controlled by the gangs here in the city....they get their activists and politicians to fight against more police resources and use their power to stop laws that would increase the penalties for longer prison sentences for gun offenders...using racism as the get out of free card for career killers......

The average time in jail for a convicted, repeat gun offender, less than 2 years with a diversion to a Boot Camp......and they are back on the street shooting people......

you have no clue what the issue really is...so please read up and get informed...

I didn't reference gun laws in Chicago in my post. So, maybe rethink all of that.

 

[Divine Wind]

I didn't reference gun laws in Chicago in my post. So, maybe rethink all of that.

What are your views on the Bill of Rights, specifically the Second Amendment, but all in general, and authoritarian government attempts to curtail the Bill of Rights?

 

[Flash]

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Your comments about the Clinton Foundation only go to prove your ignorance, yet you give the trump Foundation a free pass? They are innocent of all wrong doing?

Your stupid denial of the blatant crime, dishonesty and corruption of the Clintons only goes to prove that you are one of these stupid Americans that Jonathan Gruber warned us about. Gruberidiot is the correct terminology for Moon Bats like you.

The same Gruberidiot that believes that Obamacare was going to let you keep your doctor and save you $2500 a year in medical cost is the same moron that refuses to understand the corruption of the filthy ass Clintons.