The number one reason Obama was re-elected...

[MENTION=26616]kaz[/MENTION]
Come on man, you're somebody! Don't put yourself down. You said that. Clearly. Stop girling out and stand behind what you said. With a split DC, you blame only Republicans for spending. Or you say you do.

No one said only under Republicans ...somebody blamed only Democrats and Dante reminded them that Republicans did it too. The sad fact that Sheeple like you and FweeWillie read more into a reply than is there, or was meant to be there shows how ill you people have become with your anger and hate of most of America. After all it is most of America that voted for President Obama and Obamacare

You listed times when power was split, like when Reagan was President, and only blamed Republicans. Democrats over the last decades have had a bunch of periods where they had control of the Presidency and both Houses. Republicans in my lifetime have had only one brief period at the start of the W Presidency.

You can say you don't get it, but the time periods you referenced were split power and you blamed only one party. The Republicans.


Still struggling with Reading and Comprehension 101? Dante did NOT only blame Republicans. Go back to what he actually responded to. What Dante did was only list Repiblicans to show that it was not only Democrats. Dante never said Democrats did not raise the debt. :eusa_whistle:

Really, really, really sucks to be you, eh? :eusa_eh:
 
[MENTION=26616]kaz[/MENTION]

No one said only under Republicans ...somebody blamed only Democrats and Dante reminded them that Republicans did it too. The sad fact that Sheeple like you and FweeWillie read more into a reply than is there, or was meant to be there shows how ill you people have become with your anger and hate of most of America. After all it is most of America that voted for President Obama and Obamacare

You listed times when power was split, like when Reagan was President, and only blamed Republicans. Democrats over the last decades have had a bunch of periods where they had control of the Presidency and both Houses. Republicans in my lifetime have had only one brief period at the start of the W Presidency.

You can say you don't get it, but the time periods you referenced were split power and you blamed only one party. The Republicans.


Still struggling with Reading and Comprehension 101? Dante did NOT only blame Republicans. Go back to what he actually responded to. What Dante did was only list Repiblicans to show that it was not only Democrats. Dante never said Democrats did not raise the debt. :eusa_whistle:

Really, really, really sucks to be you, eh? :eusa_eh:

The quote was Tytler and that Obama promised people more than the Republicans did. That has nothing to do with Reagan or any of the other deflection you brought up. The Republicans suck, but even they don't spend like Democrats. Read the quote and my message and nowhere do I say the Republicans don't spend too. I said Obama promised ... more ... He did.

Rally, really, really sucks to be you, eh? :eusa_eh:
 
You listed times when power was split, like when Reagan was President, and only blamed Republicans. Democrats over the last decades have had a bunch of periods where they had control of the Presidency and both Houses. Republicans in my lifetime have had only one brief period at the start of the W Presidency.

You can say you don't get it, but the time periods you referenced were split power and you blamed only one party. The Republicans.


Still struggling with Reading and Comprehension 101? Dante did NOT only blame Republicans. Go back to what he actually responded to. What Dante did was only list Repiblicans to show that it was not only Democrats. Dante never said Democrats did not raise the debt. :eusa_whistle:

Really, really, really sucks to be you, eh? :eusa_eh:

The quote was Tytler and that Obama promised people more than the Republicans did. That has nothing to do with Reagan or any of the other deflection you brought up. The Republicans suck, but even they don't spend like Democrats. Read the quote and my message and nowhere do I say the Republicans don't spend too. I said Obama promised ... more ... He did.

Rally, really, really sucks to be you, eh? :eusa_eh:

Revisionist history yet again?
[[[

Added during Carter's four years: $337 billion.

Added during Ronald Reagan's eight years: $1.6 trillion.

Added during George H. W. Bush's four years: $1.6 trillion.

Added during Bill Clinton's eight years: $1.5 trillion.

Added during George W. Bush's seven years, nine months: $4.5 trillion.

]]] - Daily Kos :: National Debt When Jimmy Carter ...
 
Still struggling with Reading and Comprehension 101? Dante did NOT only blame Republicans. Go back to what he actually responded to. What Dante did was only list Repiblicans to show that it was not only Democrats. Dante never said Democrats did not raise the debt. :eusa_whistle:

Really, really, really sucks to be you, eh? :eusa_eh:

The quote was Tytler and that Obama promised people more than the Republicans did. That has nothing to do with Reagan or any of the other deflection you brought up. The Republicans suck, but even they don't spend like Democrats. Read the quote and my message and nowhere do I say the Republicans don't spend too. I said Obama promised ... more ... He did.

Rally, really, really sucks to be you, eh? :eusa_eh:

Revisionist history yet again?
[[[

Added during Carter's four years: $337 billion.

Added during Ronald Reagan's eight years: $1.6 trillion.

Added during George H. W. Bush's four years: $1.6 trillion.

Added during Bill Clinton's eight years: $1.5 trillion.

Added during George W. Bush's seven years, nine months: $4.5 trillion.

]]] - Daily Kos :: National Debt When Jimmy Carter ...

First, Presidents can't pass budgets, they don't even have a vote. If you tie this to congresses you get pretty much the reverse story.

Second, I said Obama promised more handouts than Romney did. If you want to refute my point, you have to address my point.
 
Response to Redfish ron4342 underlined
OBL is dead because of intel gathered by the Bush admin, Intel that obama shut down Wrong. bush shut down the CIA unit tasked with finding bin Laden. Obama re-established the unit and gave the "Go" order kill bin Laden. Educate yourself: Obama, Not Bush, Gets Credit for bin Laden Killing - Brad Bannon (usnews.com)
ACA is the worst piece of legislation in the history of the nation--nothing to be proud of there As for ACA being the worst legislation in history it is to early to tell. However, here is a worse piece of legislation: Fugitive Slave Act (1850).
3 females on SCOTUS, so what? They were not nominated because they are female, they were nominated because they are practicing liberals. Who happen to be bright and intelligent and who have excellent credentials. Now, it you want to see crap, take a look at thomas or scalia.
 
The now infamous 47% comment is what really sank Romney's campaign. Both parties use divisiveness as a political tool in elections, but hearing a candidate pretty much refer to half the country as freeloaders was seen as the ultimate divisive comment. Go figure, half the country doesn't like a seeing a rich man calling them bums, looking for a handout. As crappy of a president as Obama might be, Romney deserved to lose over that comment alone.

Yes, the 47 percent comment caused the 47 percent not to vote for him, yeah that's what did it. Not the mud that the democrats threw at him or the down right lying, no that had no effect at all. Making fun of his wife now that certainly showed the lack of civility of the democrat party.
 
The now infamous 47% comment is what really sank Romney's campaign. Both parties use divisiveness as a political tool in elections, but hearing a candidate pretty much refer to half the country as freeloaders was seen as the ultimate divisive comment. Go figure, half the country doesn't like a seeing a rich man calling them bums, looking for a handout. As crappy of a president as Obama might be, Romney deserved to lose over that comment alone.

Yes, the 47 percent comment caused the 47 percent not to vote for him, yeah that's what did it. Not the mud that the democrats threw at him or the down right lying, no that had no effect at all. Making fun of his wife now that certainly showed the lack of civility of the democrat party.

1) given all the things said about Michelle Obama- comparing her to Chewbacca and calling her "fat", Stepford Ann got off pretty easy.

2) The 47% comments were damning because it showed exactly what Romney thinks of most of us who are out here who work for a living.

If he had just stuck with, "Obama is going to get 47% because the Democrat hasn't gone below that in 20 years," he'd have been fine. He then went on to disparage the very people he needed to win over.

3) Sadly, nothing said about Romney was a lie. He really is a heartless plutocrat asshole who is completely clueless as to what most of us are going through out here.
 
The now infamous 47% comment is what really sank Romney's campaign. Both parties use divisiveness as a political tool in elections, but hearing a candidate pretty much refer to half the country as freeloaders was seen as the ultimate divisive comment. Go figure, half the country doesn't like a seeing a rich man calling them bums, looking for a handout. As crappy of a president as Obama might be, Romney deserved to lose over that comment alone.

Yes, the 47 percent comment caused the 47 percent not to vote for him, yeah that's what did it. Not the mud that the democrats threw at him or the down right lying, no that had no effect at all. Making fun of his wife now that certainly showed the lack of civility of the democrat party.

The mud the Democrats threw caused Romney the election? You must be new to politics. Both sides sling mud in an election. Properly deflecting it is part of running a successful campaign. Democrats tried painting Romney as out of touch, and he got caught on video insulting half of America. He only has himself to blame for losing.
 
The now infamous 47% comment is what really sank Romney's campaign. Both parties use divisiveness as a political tool in elections, but hearing a candidate pretty much refer to half the country as freeloaders was seen as the ultimate divisive comment. Go figure, half the country doesn't like a seeing a rich man calling them bums, looking for a handout. As crappy of a president as Obama might be, Romney deserved to lose over that comment alone.

Yes, the 47 percent comment caused the 47 percent not to vote for him, yeah that's what did it. Not the mud that the democrats threw at him or the down right lying, no that had no effect at all. Making fun of his wife now that certainly showed the lack of civility of the democrat party.

The mud the Democrats threw caused Romney the election? You must be new to politics. Both sides sling mud in an election. Properly deflecting it is part of running a successful campaign. Democrats tried painting Romney as out of touch, and he got caught on video insulting half of America. He only has himself to blame for losing.

Good point.

Romney's rant about the 47% was as damning as Michael Dukakis reacting unemotionally to the hypothetical rape/murder of his wife.

The other side had spent and effort painting a picture, and he walked right into the frame.
 
The now infamous 47% comment is what really sank Romney's campaign. Both parties use divisiveness as a political tool in elections, but hearing a candidate pretty much refer to half the country as freeloaders was seen as the ultimate divisive comment. Go figure, half the country doesn't like a seeing a rich man calling them bums, looking for a handout. As crappy of a president as Obama might be, Romney deserved to lose over that comment alone.

Insulting the electorate means that Romney was unfit to be the President of We the People.

Please, nobody who was "offended" by that statement wasn't already an Obama voter

And THIS is the attitude that helped cause Romney the election. This old argument from some Republicans never ceases to amaze me.

"Who don't 47% of voters like us?"

"Because they are all moochers, and just want free stuff."

"But... why don't 47% of voters like us?"
 
The number one reason Obama was re-elected...

He had what he lacked the previous election -- experience. Let us be honest here. Whether you agree with his experience in office or not, it exists -- in the real world


Other reasons include having a superior campaign and having reality based polls to run that campaign on.

:cool:

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The number one reason Obama was re-elected...

He had what he lacked the previous election -- experience. Let us be honest here. Whether you agree with his experience in office or not, it exists -- in the real world


Other reasons include having a superior campaign and having reality based polls to run that campaign on.

:cool:

And you bring this up nearly a year after the election because...............?
 
[MENTION=42379]Redfish[/MENTION]
Oh and besides the fact that he has taken care of Wall Street, the Health Care industry and drug companies. The middle class, not so much.

You forgot the UAW, the GM bailout was to save the union---------now the union is asking to be excused from obama, after supporting it--------WTF?

The bailout saved JOBS good jobs. But freaks like you see another Obama conspiracy :eek:

You people hate good paying jobs and healthy Americans? Why do you people bother getting out of bed every day?



the GM and Chrysler bailouts did NOTsave jobs. If those companies had gone through bankruptcy, they would have been broken up into smaller more efficient new companies. The workers would have jobs in the new companies. Each of those new companies would have had to have a union representation vote. The UAW could not risk losing members---so they cut a deal with obama. They would support him if he would bail out the car companies and ensure the survival of the UAW.

Thats what the bailouts were all about---political corruption for financial gain.
 
[MENTION=42379]Redfish[/MENTION]
You forgot the UAW, the GM bailout was to save the union---------now the union is asking to be excused from obama, after supporting it--------WTF?

The bailout saved JOBS good jobs. But freaks like you see another Obama conspiracy :eek:

You people hate good paying jobs and healthy Americans? Why do you people bother getting out of bed every day?



the GM and Chrysler bailouts did NOTsave jobs. If those companies had gone through bankruptcy, they would have been broken up into smaller more efficient new companies. The workers would have jobs in the new companies. Each of those new companies would have had to have a union representation vote. The UAW could not risk losing members---so they cut a deal with obama. They would support him if he would bail out the car companies and ensure the survival of the UAW.

Thats what the bailouts were all about---political corruption for financial gain.

Under normal economic conditions.....maybe

During an economic collapse of the whole financial system? Doubtful

Who was going to cough up money for a restructure?
 
[MENTION=42379]Redfish[/MENTION]


The bailout saved JOBS good jobs. But freaks like you see another Obama conspiracy :eek:

You people hate good paying jobs and healthy Americans? Why do you people bother getting out of bed every day?



the GM and Chrysler bailouts did NOTsave jobs. If those companies had gone through bankruptcy, they would have been broken up into smaller more efficient new companies. The workers would have jobs in the new companies. Each of those new companies would have had to have a union representation vote. The UAW could not risk losing members---so they cut a deal with obama. They would support him if he would bail out the car companies and ensure the survival of the UAW.

Thats what the bailouts were all about---political corruption for financial gain.

Under normal economic conditions.....maybe

During an economic collapse of the whole financial system? Doubtful

Who was going to cough up money for a restructure?



a restructure would have cost less than the bailouts. The economy was not going to collapse if the car companies went through bankruptcy proceedings.

This was to save the UAW and ensure that its money would continue to flow to the DNC, nothing more.

it was political corruption at taxpayer expense.

If you condone that, fine. I do not and never will no matter which party is in power.
 
the GM and Chrysler bailouts did NOTsave jobs. If those companies had gone through bankruptcy, they would have been broken up into smaller more efficient new companies. The workers would have jobs in the new companies. Each of those new companies would have had to have a union representation vote. The UAW could not risk losing members---so they cut a deal with obama. They would support him if he would bail out the car companies and ensure the survival of the UAW.

Thats what the bailouts were all about---political corruption for financial gain.

Under normal economic conditions.....maybe

During an economic collapse of the whole financial system? Doubtful

Who was going to cough up money for a restructure?



a restructure would have cost less than the bailouts. The economy was not going to collapse if the car companies went through bankruptcy proceedings.

This was to save the UAW and ensure that its money would continue to flow to the DNC, nothing more.

it was political corruption at taxpayer expense.

If you condone that, fine. I do not and never will no matter which party is in power.

The economy was already collapsing and investors were fleeing Wall Street. NOBODY was going to prop up a collapsing auto industry under those conditions

The US Government stepped in and made it clear that they would not allow these companies to collapse. Obama did order restructuring and shedding unprofitable brands. Remember Pontiac and Saturn? The unions you hate also had to give back pay and benefits as part of the deal

The auto companies were saved and we are all better off for it
 
Under normal economic conditions.....maybe

During an economic collapse of the whole financial system? Doubtful

Who was going to cough up money for a restructure?



a restructure would have cost less than the bailouts. The economy was not going to collapse if the car companies went through bankruptcy proceedings.

This was to save the UAW and ensure that its money would continue to flow to the DNC, nothing more.

it was political corruption at taxpayer expense.

If you condone that, fine. I do not and never will no matter which party is in power.

The economy was already collapsing and investors were fleeing Wall Street. NOBODY was going to prop up a collapsing auto industry under those conditions

The US Government stepped in and made it clear that they would not allow these companies to collapse. Obama did order restructuring and shedding unprofitable brands. Remember Pontiac and Saturn? The unions you hate also had to give back pay and benefits as part of the deal

The auto companies were saved and we are all better off for it


thats your opinion and you are entitled to it. BTW, how much does GM still owe the taxpayers?

while you are looking that up, tell me what statute gives obama the power to do what I highlighted in red.
 

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