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It's great how we get to hear zimmermans story. Right from his mouth. I wonder if he will say martin initiated the fight.
i just want a fair trial
hopefully those wanting on the jury with an agenda
will be weeded out
They got rid of one guy who seemed to be biased against Zimmerman....
And he was doing everything he could to get on that jury...
It's great how we get to hear zimmermans story. Right from his mouth. I wonder if he will say martin initiated the fight.
Well Martin did initiate the fight. Whats the issue?
The actual evidence that comes into the trial will determine the opinion of most of us. We have heard many things, but what is concrete and comes in may be two different things.
Has anyone listened to the jury questions? How do you think the questioning is going and have there been many that you felt could really be impartial?
People who are shot can still move.
The bullet went through the heart and Zimmerman said after the shot he got on top of the body and spread the hands out.
Are you saying Zimmerman didn't tell the truth about getting on top of the body and that a heart shot body crawled down the sidewalk and into the grass?
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Listen to the re enactment thing again. Z claims that Martin even spoke after he was shot and humans CAN speak after being shot in the heart
i just want a fair trial
hopefully those wanting on the jury with an agenda
will be weeded out
They got rid of one guy who seemed to be biased against Zimmerman....
And he was doing everything he could to get on that jury...
yes he came back today had to be removed for trespassing
The actual evidence that comes into the trial will determine the opinion of most of us. We have heard many things, but what is concrete and comes in may be two different things.
Has anyone listened to the jury questions? How do you think the questioning is going and have there been many that you felt could really be impartial?
I listened to several today...most had an agenda and werent being truthful, Imo. I did like two of the ladie and one of the males. I would have taken 3 from today possible 4.
Zimmerman was looking for a house number not a street sign. He was heading toward the lit part of a street that he already new the name of. 9-1-1 asked him for info and he was trying to give it to them.
I've previously supplied a link to the audio where he said he was looking for a street sign, he also said he was looking for a street sign in his written statement.
OK, he went to the back of the houses to find a house number? When did they strart mounting house numbers on the back of houses? That and he walked past the front of houses with the lights on and the house numbers were clearly visible without going behind the houses.
There are only three streets in the development (Retreat View Circle, Twin Trees Lane, and Long Oak Way). Zimmerman lived there for over two years, was the Neighborhood Watch Captain, and had made dozens of calls to the police. Twin Trees Lane is the road entrance to both the north and south entrances, after entering on Twin Trees Lane you then turn onto Retreat View Circle. He didn't know the name of the street he turned on to / off of every time he entered or left the development? Hard to believe.
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he was already behind the houses----he was heading to the front to look for a number. Where the light was---you think that's odd ?
The bullet went through the heart and Zimmerman said after the shot he got on top of the body and spread the hands out.
Are you saying Zimmerman didn't tell the truth about getting on top of the body and that a heart shot body crawled down the sidewalk and into the grass?
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Listen to the re enactment thing again. Z claims that Martin even spoke after he was shot and humans CAN speak after being shot in the heart
A dying gasp does not move you down the sidewalk, especially with Zimmerman sitting on you. Remember Zimmerman said that after the shot he got on top of the body and spread the hands out.
Don't you believe Zimmerman?
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Zimmerman was looking for a house number not a street sign. He was heading toward the lit part of a street that he already new the name of. 9-1-1 asked him for info and he was trying to give it to them.
I've previously supplied a link to the audio where he said he was looking for a street sign, he also said he was looking for a street sign in his written statement.
OK, he went to the back of the houses to find a house number? When did they strart mounting house numbers on the back of houses? That and he walked past the front of houses with the lights on and the house numbers were clearly visible without going behind the houses.
There are only three streets in the development (Retreat View Circle, Twin Trees Lane, and Long Oak Way). Zimmerman lived there for over two years, was the Neighborhood Watch Captain, and had made dozens of calls to the police. Twin Trees Lane is the road entrance to both the north and south entrances, after entering on Twin Trees Lane you then turn onto Retreat View Circle. He didn't know the name of the street he turned on to / off of every time he entered or left the development? Hard to believe.
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he was already behind the houses----he was heading to the front to look for a number. Where the light was---you think that's odd ?
They got rid of one guy who seemed to be biased against Zimmerman....
And he was doing everything he could to get on that jury...
yes he came back today had to be removed for trespassing
Hey Jon, whats up buddy? Hey which juror was that...was it the restaurant manager one?
I've previously supplied a link to the audio where he said he was looking for a street sign, he also said he was looking for a street sign in his written statement.
OK, he went to the back of the houses to find a house number? When did they strart mounting house numbers on the back of houses? That and he walked past the front of houses with the lights on and the house numbers were clearly visible without going behind the houses.
There are only three streets in the development (Retreat View Circle, Twin Trees Lane, and Long Oak Way). Zimmerman lived there for over two years, was the Neighborhood Watch Captain, and had made dozens of calls to the police. Twin Trees Lane is the road entrance to both the north and south entrances, after entering on Twin Trees Lane you then turn onto Retreat View Circle. He didn't know the name of the street he turned on to / off of every time he entered or left the development? Hard to believe.
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he was already behind the houses----he was heading to the front to look for a number. Where the light was---you think that's odd ?
Agree and he had a right to go wherever he wanted as did Martin...he wasnt breaking any laws. The dispatcher kept him engaged and he had agreed to meet the cops at the mailboxes, which it appears he was heading back to when the confrontation happened. I dont get it...he can walk where he wants to.
he was already behind the houses----he was heading to the front to look for a number. Where the light was---you think that's odd ?
Agree and he had a right to go wherever he wanted as did Martin...he wasnt breaking any laws. The dispatcher kept him engaged and he had agreed to meet the cops at the mailboxes, which it appears he was heading back to when the confrontation happened. I dont get it...he can walk where he wants to.
Check the dispatcher call again. After agreeing to meet the cops at the mailboxes, Zimmerman canceled that and instead asked the dispatcher to have the cops call him so they could meet once they were on site.
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Listen to the re enactment thing again. Z claims that Martin even spoke after he was shot and humans CAN speak after being shot in the heart
A dying gasp does not move you down the sidewalk, especially with Zimmerman sitting on you. Remember Zimmerman said that after the shot he got on top of the body and spread the hands out.
Don't you believe Zimmerman?
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omg---are you seriously trying to put me on trial ?
ask a real expert how far a man can move after being shot if you don't believe me-----you're grasping at straws on this body position shit.
I've previously supplied a link to the audio where he said he was looking for a street sign, he also said he was looking for a street sign in his written statement.
OK, he went to the back of the houses to find a house number? When did they strart mounting house numbers on the back of houses? That and he walked past the front of houses with the lights on and the house numbers were clearly visible without going behind the houses.
There are only three streets in the development (Retreat View Circle, Twin Trees Lane, and Long Oak Way). Zimmerman lived there for over two years, was the Neighborhood Watch Captain, and had made dozens of calls to the police. Twin Trees Lane is the road entrance to both the north and south entrances, after entering on Twin Trees Lane you then turn onto Retreat View Circle. He didn't know the name of the street he turned on to / off of every time he entered or left the development? Hard to believe.
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he was already behind the houses----he was heading to the front to look for a number. Where the light was---you think that's odd ?
Agree and he had a right to go wherever he wanted as did Martin...he wasnt breaking any laws. The dispatcher kept him engaged and he had agreed to meet the cops at the mailboxes, which it appears he was heading back to when the confrontation happened. I dont get it...he can walk where he wants to.
A dying gasp does not move you down the sidewalk, especially with Zimmerman sitting on you. Remember Zimmerman said that after the shot he got on top of the body and spread the hands out.
Don't you believe Zimmerman?
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omg---are you seriously trying to put me on trial ?
No I'm trying to determine you consistency. Either you believe Zimmerman was completely truthful or you believe that Zimmerman may have not told the whole truth during his statements.
ask a real expert how far a man can move after being shot if you don't believe me-----you're grasping at straws on this body position shit.
The real question to ask the expert isnot can someone move after being shot.
The question is how far is someone likely to move after being shot through the heart with someone on top of you - which is the situation Zimmerman described.
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Agree and he had a right to go wherever he wanted as did Martin...he wasnt breaking any laws. The dispatcher kept him engaged and he had agreed to meet the cops at the mailboxes, which it appears he was heading back to when the confrontation happened. I dont get it...he can walk where he wants to.
Check the dispatcher call again. After agreeing to meet the cops at the mailboxes, Zimmerman canceled that and instead asked the dispatcher to have the cops call him so they could meet once they were on site.
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listen to the WHOLE thing and put it into context---you love to cherry pick the info but that ISN'T the whole truth. What was said next ?
omg---are you seriously trying to put me on trial ?
No I'm trying to determine you consistency. Either you believe Zimmerman was completely truthful or you believe that Zimmerman may have not told the whole truth during his statements.
ask a real expert how far a man can move after being shot if you don't believe me-----you're grasping at straws on this body position shit.
The real question to ask the expert isnot can someone move after being shot.
The question is how far is someone likely to move after being shot through the heart with someone on top of you - which is the situation Zimmerman described.
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Can someone get the facts wrong when retelling a story and not be lying ?
Check the dispatcher call again. After agreeing to meet the cops at the mailboxes, Zimmerman canceled that and instead asked the dispatcher to have the cops call him so they could meet once they were on site.
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listen to the WHOLE thing and put it into context---you love to cherry pick the info but that ISN'T the whole truth. What was said next ?
Zimmerman: Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out, he's got
something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is.
Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything ok
Zimmerman: How long until you get an officer over here?
Dispatcher: Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does
anything else.
Zimmerman: Okay. These assholes they always get away. When you come to the
clubhouse you come straight in and make a left. Actually you would go past the
clubhouse.
Dispatcher: So it's on the lefthand side from the clubhouse?
Zimmerman: No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left...uh
you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Shit he's running.
Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?
Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.
Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?
Zimmerman: The back entrance...fucking [unintelligible]
Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Ok
Dispatcher: Alright sir what is your name?
Zimmerman: George...He ran.
Dispatcher: Alright George what's your last name?
Zimmerman: Zimmerman
Dispatcher: And George what's the phone number you're calling from?
Zimmerman: [redacted by
Mother Jones
]
Dispatcher: Alright George we do have them on the way, do you want to meet with the
officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman: If they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the
club house, and uh, straight past the club house and make a left, and then they
go past the mailboxes, thats my truck...[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?
Zimmerman: I dont know, its a cut through so I dont know the address.
Dispatcher: Okay do you live in the area?
Zimmerman: Yeah, I...[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: Whats your apartment number?
Zimmerman: Its a home its 1950, oh crap I dont want to give it all out, I dont
know where this kid is.
Dispatcher: Okay do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes
then?
Zimmerman: Yeah thats fine.
Dispatcher: Alright George, Ill let them know to meet you around there okay?
Zimmerman: Actually could you have them call me and Ill tell them where Im at?
Dispatcher: Okay, yeah thats no problem.
Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?
Dispatcher: Yeah I got it [Phone Number redacted]
Zimmerman: Yeah you got it.
Dispatcher: Okay no problem, Ill let them know to call you when youre in the
area.
Zimmerman: Thanks.
Dispatcher: Youre welcome.
<<END OF CALL>>
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No I'm trying to determine you consistency. Either you believe Zimmerman was completely truthful or you believe that Zimmerman may have not told the whole truth during his statements.
The real question to ask the expert isnot can someone move after being shot.
The question is how far is someone likely to move after being shot through the heart with someone on top of you - which is the situation Zimmerman described.
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Can someone get the facts wrong when retelling a story and not be lying ?
Absolutely. The emotions are going like crazy and you think that things happened a certain way but it could be wrong or your perception could be altered due to pain or excitement.
