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This is also discussed in CCW class. You don't say nothing. Honestly, I dong think GZ had plans to kill the kid or even have contact with him. I think this death was an honest to God act of stupidity on GZ's part.
Now he is trying to justify it in front of Trayvon's parents and all the world by lying about how it happened.
It may be too late, the prosecution has not been tough enough. The wittnesses aren't good for them but they have no choice but to put them on the stand. For instance, his statements from that night were read by someone who can't even see well enough to read the words. The lead prosecuter, Bernie de la Rionda let her struggle through it and what she was saying was so choppy, it made no sense.
He should have read it and had her follow along.
The video at the police station that night wasn't working so the statement in messy writing was all they had. Hope the prosecution can get their case together, not looking good.
It's hard to tell.
The prosecution has done a real good job of punching holes in the George Zimmerman story and they've slowly established a narrative to he was playing cop.
And when I sat on a jury, it was the deliberations that really decided the verdict and that was more based on reading back the testimony. When you do that, you decide based on content not the person giving it.
What was germane about Rachel's testimony was that what was said is pretty different from how Zimmerman remembers it as well as establishing the "fight" was not one sided.
The testimony of Good and Mora punch holes in 2 other key elements of Zimmerman's story, that head was being bashed, repeatedly, against the side walk and that his mouth and nose were covered. The cell phone recording also discounts that. As do his pictures, which the defense seem to like to parade around every chance they get. It also dispels the myth that Martin was lying in wait for Zimmerman. The EMTs and the Zimmerman pictures also establish that his wounds were pretty minor and not life threatening.
I think the forensics might be the final nail if played right. If indeed Martin's hands aren't damaged badly it's also going to take away more of the notion that Zimmerman was in a life and death struggle.
The problem becomes convincing the Jury that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin. That's the toughie. He probably didn't when he went in chasing Martin, but once the fight started, it looks as if he flew into a rage.
Will he?
Why? Why not?
I'm still wondering how Trayvon could have jumped out of the bushes at Zimmerman when there weren't any bushes around the whole fucking complex?
Sorry.......................but I hope Zimmerman can explain himself sufficiently, because if he can't, he should go to jail for a very long time.
And...................the 911 call he made calling Trayvon a "fucking punk" ain't gonna look good for him either.
Big fucking deal. Travis was fucking punk. He dripped fucking punk. We all know GZ would have said that whether it was recorded on the 911 tape or not. And he was right.
So...................if Trayvon (NOT Travis you idiot) was a punk and dripped punk, does that still mean that he should have been followed by a person who desperately wanted to be a cop, but failed the tests and had to settle for being a member of the neighborhood watch, and was shot because some moron (who failed to be selected as a member of the police) thought he was guilty just because he didn't like how he looked?
If you think like George Zimmerman, I feel sorry for your being spun in a bubble of bigotry.
Zimmerman is someone who shot before he thought, and should pay the price for his actions.
I hope he's in jail for 5 to 25 years.
Now he is trying to justify it in front of Trayvon's parents and all the world by lying about how it happened.
It may be too late, the prosecution has not been tough enough. The wittnesses aren't good for them but they have no choice but to put them on the stand. For instance, his statements from that night were read by someone who can't even see well enough to read the words. The lead prosecuter, Bernie de la Rionda let her struggle through it and what she was saying was so choppy, it made no sense.
He should have read it and had her follow along.
The video at the police station that night wasn't working so the statement in messy writing was all they had. Hope the prosecution can get their case together, not looking good.
It's hard to tell.
The prosecution has done a real good job of punching holes in the George Zimmerman story and they've slowly established a narrative to he was playing cop.
And when I sat on a jury, it was the deliberations that really decided the verdict and that was more based on reading back the testimony. When you do that, you decide based on content not the person giving it.
What was germane about Rachel's testimony was that what was said is pretty different from how Zimmerman remembers it as well as establishing the "fight" was not one sided.
The testimony of Good and Mora punch holes in 2 other key elements of Zimmerman's story, that head was being bashed, repeatedly, against the side walk and that his mouth and nose were covered. The cell phone recording also discounts that. As do his pictures, which the defense seem to like to parade around every chance they get. It also dispels the myth that Martin was lying in wait for Zimmerman. The EMTs and the Zimmerman pictures also establish that his wounds were pretty minor and not life threatening.
I think the forensics might be the final nail if played right. If indeed Martin's hands aren't damaged badly it's also going to take away more of the notion that Zimmerman was in a life and death struggle.
The problem becomes convincing the Jury that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin. That's the toughie. He probably didn't when he went in chasing Martin, but once the fight started, it looks as if he flew into a rage.
Zimmerman didn't set out to kill Martin, he was just a bigot who had a low place in society who was looking to make a larger name for himself by arresting a black person.
Too bad he killed them and lost his chance, especially with the evidence that he'd already figured them for guilty when they were innocent.
Big fucking deal. Travis was fucking punk. He dripped fucking punk. We all know GZ would have said that whether it was recorded on the 911 tape or not. And he was right.
So...................if Trayvon (NOT Travis you idiot) was a punk and dripped punk, does that still mean that he should have been followed by a person who desperately wanted to be a cop, but failed the tests and had to settle for being a member of the neighborhood watch, and was shot because some moron (who failed to be selected as a member of the police) thought he was guilty just because he didn't like how he looked?
If you think like George Zimmerman, I feel sorry for your being spun in a bubble of bigotry.
Zimmerman is someone who shot before he thought, and should pay the price for his actions.
I hope he's in jail for 5 to 25 years.
Are you telling me that if you see something suspicious in your neighborhood then you're not allowed to investigate? FUCK THAT AND FUCK YOU.
And it doesn't matter if GZ "desperately wanted to be a cop" either.
How am I a biggot, dick wad? Because I said a black guy was a punk? FUCK OFF. He was a punk. I'm not going to dance around your fairytale BS.
Shot before he thought? He was getting his head pounded against concrete. There's nothing to think about at that point. Maybe, Travis shouldn't have been a thug and started beating on someone just b/c he found a target. GZ is the victim. He is allowed to defend himself. And I tell you what; if more peoople did what GZ did, people would think twice about physically assaulting someone.
This is also discussed in CCW class. You don't say nothing. Honestly, I dong think GZ had plans to kill the kid or even have contact with him. I think this death was an honest to God act of stupidity on GZ's part.
Now he is trying to justify it in front of Trayvon's parents and all the world by lying about how it happened.
It may be too late, the prosecution has not been tough enough. The wittnesses aren't good for them but they have no choice but to put them on the stand. For instance, his statements from that night were read by someone who can't even see well enough to read the words. The lead prosecuter, Bernie de la Rionda let her struggle through it and what she was saying was so choppy, it made no sense.
He should have read it and had her follow along.
The video at the police station that night wasn't working so the statement in messy writing was all they had. Hope the prosecution can get their case together, not looking good.
It's hard to tell.
The prosecution has done a real good job of punching holes in the George Zimmerman story and they've slowly established a narrative to he was playing cop.
And when I sat on a jury, it was the deliberations that really decided the verdict and that was more based on reading back the testimony. When you do that, you decide based on content not the person giving it.
What was germane about Rachel's testimony was that what was said is pretty different from how Zimmerman remembers it as well as establishing the "fight" was not one sided.
The testimony of Good and Mora punch holes in 2 other key elements of Zimmerman's story, that head was being bashed, repeatedly, against the side walk and that his mouth and nose were covered. The cell phone recording also discounts that. As do his pictures, which the defense seem to like to parade around every chance they get. It also dispels the myth that Martin was lying in wait for Zimmerman. The EMTs and the Zimmerman pictures also establish that his wounds were pretty minor and not life threatening.
I think the forensics might be the final nail if played right. If indeed Martin's hands aren't damaged badly it's also going to take away more of the notion that Zimmerman was in a life and death struggle.
The problem becomes convincing the Jury that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin. That's the toughie. He probably didn't when he went in chasing Martin, but once the fight started, it looks as if he flew into a rage.
Now he is trying to justify it in front of Trayvon's parents and all the world by lying about how it happened.
It may be too late, the prosecution has not been tough enough. The wittnesses aren't good for them but they have no choice but to put them on the stand. For instance, his statements from that night were read by someone who can't even see well enough to read the words. The lead prosecuter, Bernie de la Rionda let her struggle through it and what she was saying was so choppy, it made no sense.
He should have read it and had her follow along.
The video at the police station that night wasn't working so the statement in messy writing was all they had. Hope the prosecution can get their case together, not looking good.
It's hard to tell.
The prosecution has done a real good job of punching holes in the George Zimmerman story and they've slowly established a narrative to he was playing cop.
And when I sat on a jury, it was the deliberations that really decided the verdict and that was more based on reading back the testimony. When you do that, you decide based on content not the person giving it.
What was germane about Rachel's testimony was that what was said is pretty different from how Zimmerman remembers it as well as establishing the "fight" was not one sided.
The testimony of Good and Mora punch holes in 2 other key elements of Zimmerman's story, that head was being bashed, repeatedly, against the side walk and that his mouth and nose were covered. The cell phone recording also discounts that. As do his pictures, which the defense seem to like to parade around every chance they get. It also dispels the myth that Martin was lying in wait for Zimmerman. The EMTs and the Zimmerman pictures also establish that his wounds were pretty minor and not life threatening.
I think the forensics might be the final nail if played right. If indeed Martin's hands aren't damaged badly it's also going to take away more of the notion that Zimmerman was in a life and death struggle.
The problem becomes convincing the Jury that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin. That's the toughie. He probably didn't when he went in chasing Martin, but once the fight started, it looks as if he flew into a rage.
If they can't prove it was self defense, Zimmerman is going to prison. I want him on the stand and Angely Corey needs to crack the whip on her team. The best one is the good looking guy, John Guy and no, it isn't just because he is good looking. He gave a very compelling opening statement. Hopefully, they can show that everything they said in that opening statement is true.
I agree with you about Zimmerman flying into a rage. They're not letting past incidences in though, unfortunately. We know there are past incidences with this guy.
It's hard to tell.
The prosecution has done a real good job of punching holes in the George Zimmerman story and they've slowly established a narrative to he was playing cop.
And when I sat on a jury, it was the deliberations that really decided the verdict and that was more based on reading back the testimony. When you do that, you decide based on content not the person giving it.
What was germane about Rachel's testimony was that what was said is pretty different from how Zimmerman remembers it as well as establishing the "fight" was not one sided.
The testimony of Good and Mora punch holes in 2 other key elements of Zimmerman's story, that head was being bashed, repeatedly, against the side walk and that his mouth and nose were covered. The cell phone recording also discounts that. As do his pictures, which the defense seem to like to parade around every chance they get. It also dispels the myth that Martin was lying in wait for Zimmerman. The EMTs and the Zimmerman pictures also establish that his wounds were pretty minor and not life threatening.
I think the forensics might be the final nail if played right. If indeed Martin's hands aren't damaged badly it's also going to take away more of the notion that Zimmerman was in a life and death struggle.
The problem becomes convincing the Jury that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin. That's the toughie. He probably didn't when he went in chasing Martin, but once the fight started, it looks as if he flew into a rage.
Zimmerman didn't set out to kill Martin, he was just a bigot who had a low place in society who was looking to make a larger name for himself by arresting a black person.
Too bad he killed them and lost his chance, especially with the evidence that he'd already figured them for guilty when they were innocent.
Hence the quandary. Zimmerman was engaged in profiling. He had decided an innocent kid was a "suspect". And he decided that this time, the suspect was not getting away with it. He was going to "arrest" the kid and be a hero.
But, things didn't go as planned.
But I am not sure that Zimmerman flying into a rage is going to count as a "depraved mind". Which is why I think the DA overcharged.
This is also discussed in CCW class. You don't say nothing. Honestly, I dong think GZ had plans to kill the kid or even have contact with him. I think this death was an honest to God act of stupidity on GZ's part.
Now he is trying to justify it in front of Trayvon's parents and all the world by lying about how it happened.
It may be too late, the prosecution has not been tough enough. The wittnesses aren't good for them but they have no choice but to put them on the stand. For instance, his statements from that night were read by someone who can't even see well enough to read the words. The lead prosecuter, Bernie de la Rionda let her struggle through it and what she was saying was so choppy, it made no sense.
He should have read it and had her follow along.
The video at the police station that night wasn't working so the statement in messy writing was all they had. Hope the prosecution can get their case together, not looking good.
Actually, I find the inconsistencies in the various stories he's told to be troubling.
Sorry......................but there are no bushes in the areas that he used to hunt Trayvon down.
BTW...................................if Zimmerman was such a long standing member of the neighborhood watch, then why was it he didn't know the name of the 3 streets in the gated community?
Now he is trying to justify it in front of Trayvon's parents and all the world by lying about how it happened.
It may be too late, the prosecution has not been tough enough. The wittnesses aren't good for them but they have no choice but to put them on the stand. For instance, his statements from that night were read by someone who can't even see well enough to read the words. The lead prosecuter, Bernie de la Rionda let her struggle through it and what she was saying was so choppy, it made no sense.
He should have read it and had her follow along.
The video at the police station that night wasn't working so the statement in messy writing was all they had. Hope the prosecution can get their case together, not looking good.
It's hard to tell.
The prosecution has done a real good job of punching holes in the George Zimmerman story and they've slowly established a narrative to he was playing cop.
And when I sat on a jury, it was the deliberations that really decided the verdict and that was more based on reading back the testimony. When you do that, you decide based on content not the person giving it.
What was germane about Rachel's testimony was that what was said is pretty different from how Zimmerman remembers it as well as establishing the "fight" was not one sided.
The testimony of Good and Mora punch holes in 2 other key elements of Zimmerman's story, that head was being bashed, repeatedly, against the side walk and that his mouth and nose were covered. The cell phone recording also discounts that. As do his pictures, which the defense seem to like to parade around every chance they get. It also dispels the myth that Martin was lying in wait for Zimmerman. The EMTs and the Zimmerman pictures also establish that his wounds were pretty minor and not life threatening.
I think the forensics might be the final nail if played right. If indeed Martin's hands aren't damaged badly it's also going to take away more of the notion that Zimmerman was in a life and death struggle.
The problem becomes convincing the Jury that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin. That's the toughie. He probably didn't when he went in chasing Martin, but once the fight started, it looks as if he flew into a rage.
If they can't prove it was self defense, Zimmerman is going to prison. I want him on the stand and Angely Corey needs to crack the whip on her team. The best one is the good looking guy, John Guy and no, it isn't just because he is good looking. He gave a very compelling opening statement. Hopefully, they can show that everything they said in that opening statement is true.
I agree with you about Zimmerman flying into a rage. They're not letting past incidences in though, unfortunately. We know there are past incidences with this guy.
It's hard to tell.
The prosecution has done a real good job of punching holes in the George Zimmerman story and they've slowly established a narrative to he was playing cop.
And when I sat on a jury, it was the deliberations that really decided the verdict and that was more based on reading back the testimony. When you do that, you decide based on content not the person giving it.
What was germane about Rachel's testimony was that what was said is pretty different from how Zimmerman remembers it as well as establishing the "fight" was not one sided.
The testimony of Good and Mora punch holes in 2 other key elements of Zimmerman's story, that head was being bashed, repeatedly, against the side walk and that his mouth and nose were covered. The cell phone recording also discounts that. As do his pictures, which the defense seem to like to parade around every chance they get. It also dispels the myth that Martin was lying in wait for Zimmerman. The EMTs and the Zimmerman pictures also establish that his wounds were pretty minor and not life threatening.
I think the forensics might be the final nail if played right. If indeed Martin's hands aren't damaged badly it's also going to take away more of the notion that Zimmerman was in a life and death struggle.
The problem becomes convincing the Jury that Zimmerman set out to kill Martin. That's the toughie. He probably didn't when he went in chasing Martin, but once the fight started, it looks as if he flew into a rage.
If they can't prove it was self defense, Zimmerman is going to prison. I want him on the stand and Angely Corey needs to crack the whip on her team. The best one is the good looking guy, John Guy and no, it isn't just because he is good looking. He gave a very compelling opening statement. Hopefully, they can show that everything they said in that opening statement is true.
I agree with you about Zimmerman flying into a rage. They're not letting past incidences in though, unfortunately. We know there are past incidences with this guy.
I heard it was domestic violence. If so, why did he have a firearm ?
COPS GO DOOR-TO-DOOR IN TRAYVON TOWN
Cops are going door-to-door in an American city again, only this time at least they are knocking on doors instead of knocking them down.
The most recent example of a police-state presence is developing even now in Sanford, Fla., where neighborhood-watch participant George Zimmerman is on trial for murder for the death of teenager Trayvon Martin.
t Cops go door-to-door in Trayvon town
He would be stupid if he does. However, I would love to hear what he has to say and HOW he says it.
BTW...................................if Zimmerman was such a long standing member of the neighborhood watch, then why was it he didn't know the name of the 3 streets in the gated community?
This I can relate to and understand.
If they can't prove it was self defense, Zimmerman is going to prison. I want him on the stand and Angely Corey needs to crack the whip on her team. The best one is the good looking guy, John Guy and no, it isn't just because he is good looking. He gave a very compelling opening statement. Hopefully, they can show that everything they said in that opening statement is true.
I agree with you about Zimmerman flying into a rage. They're not letting past incidences in though, unfortunately. We know there are past incidences with this guy.
I heard it was domestic violence. If so, why did he have a firearm ?
Probably because Florida doesn't really bother with background checks.
COPS GO DOOR-TO-DOOR IN TRAYVON TOWN
Cops are going door-to-door in an American city again, only this time at least they are knocking on doors instead of knocking them down.
The most recent example of a police-state presence is developing even now in Sanford, Fla., where neighborhood-watch participant George Zimmerman is on trial for murder for the death of teenager Trayvon Martin.
t Cops go door-to-door in Trayvon town
