The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

What are your Initial Thoughts on the Guilt or Innocence of George Zimmerman?


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And if Zimmerman didn't want his prey to fight back..perhaps he should have kept some distance while stalking and menacing his prey.
 
This is why verdicts seem so incomprehensible to the public who aren't in the courtroom. What you hear and see is carefully monitored by whoever it is that's doing the reporting. Everyone who posts an opinion on what happened on any message board made up their minds from whatever they were spoon fed.

How about the statement that Trayvon Martin was screaming for his life. That's an assumption made by someone who needs Trayvon Martin to scream for his life to support their notion of what happened. In the courtroom, the screaming is so ambiguous that the Judge may not let it in, or if it does get in, experts on both sides will present evidence that it was the guy whose interests they represent. The jury will make up its mind independently of message boards.

Liberals have no argument except "Polls show that George Zimmerman wanted a broken nose and split open head."

And that Li'l Trayvon was stupid enough to go into a gunfight unarmed~! Seriously. If someone was walking behind you and you turned and saw the person had a gun, would you physically attack him before or after he shot you? Seriously. Would you? They are SO trying to drum this up into a lynching case, and it just isn't.
 
This is why verdicts seem so incomprehensible to the public who aren't in the courtroom. What you hear and see is carefully monitored by whoever it is that's doing the reporting. Everyone who posts an opinion on what happened on any message board made up their minds from whatever they were spoon fed.

How about the statement that Trayvon Martin was screaming for his life. That's an assumption made by someone who needs Trayvon Martin to scream for his life to support their notion of what happened. In the courtroom, the screaming is so ambiguous that the Judge may not let it in, or if it does get in, experts on both sides will present evidence that it was the guy whose interests they represent. The jury will make up its mind independently of message boards.

Liberals have no argument except "Polls show that George Zimmerman wanted a broken nose and split open head."

And that Li'l Trayvon was stupid enough to go into a gunfight unarmed~! Seriously. If someone was walking behind you and you turned and saw the person had a gun, would you physically attack him before or after he shot you? Seriously. Would you? They are SO trying to drum this up into a lynching case, and it just isn't.

How do you know that TM knew he had a gun?
 
Good morning!

B37 is up...

How much does this prosecutor believe in the charges he/DA brought in this case? Wonder what his reputation is.

Sallow - the following referred to in the menacing article you referenced needs to be repeated and threatening. That does not apply in this case. There is no evidence Zimmerman was threatening or REPEATEDLY following TM.
 
Good morning!

B37 is up...

How much does this prosecutor believe in the charges he/DA brought in this case? Wonder what his reputation is.

Sallow - the following referred to in the menacing article you referenced needs to be repeated and threatening. That does not apply in this case. There is no evidence Zimmerman was threatening or REPEATEDLY following TM.

The mere fact that he shot TM proves otherwise.
 
This is why verdicts seem so incomprehensible to the public who aren't in the courtroom. What you hear and see is carefully monitored by whoever it is that's doing the reporting. Everyone who posts an opinion on what happened on any message board made up their minds from whatever they were spoon fed.

How about the statement that Trayvon Martin was screaming for his life. That's an assumption made by someone who needs Trayvon Martin to scream for his life to support their notion of what happened. In the courtroom, the screaming is so ambiguous that the Judge may not let it in, or if it does get in, experts on both sides will present evidence that it was the guy whose interests they represent. The jury will make up its mind independently of message boards.

Liberals have no argument except "Polls show that George Zimmerman wanted a broken nose and split open head."

And that Li'l Trayvon was stupid enough to go into a gunfight unarmed~! Seriously. If someone was walking behind you and you turned and saw the person had a gun, would you physically attack him before or after he shot you? Seriously. Would you? They are SO trying to drum this up into a lynching case, and it just isn't.

How do you know that TM knew he had a gun?

So, all of you leftists are arguing that Zimmerman was 'menacing.' That would mean Li'l Trayvon had reason to reasonable fear the person who was merely walking behind him ONCE. Since walking behind some is not illegal and it does not rise to the level of menacing, in order for him to have 'reasonable fear' he would have to know about the gun. Of course, if he did then he was a stupid fuck to attack Zimmerman. But then, I'm pretty sure the little gang banger was just a stupid fuck. Period.
 
Good morning!

B37 is up...

How much does this prosecutor believe in the charges he/DA brought in this case? Wonder what his reputation is.

Sallow - the following referred to in the menacing article you referenced needs to be repeated and threatening. That does not apply in this case. There is no evidence Zimmerman was threatening or REPEATEDLY following TM.

This is what kind of guy the Bernster is:
George Zimmerman prosecutor de la Rionda mistakenly leaks witness names | jacksonville.com

And the Used Car Salesman was a total unwarranted a$$hole to Frenchie last week. Just for the sake of being an a$$hole.
 
If we're going to discuss this case, let's stick to the facts and refrain from taking this personally. None of us know what happened but we all have opinions. Let's see what comes in as evidence first before we think we know more than the lawyers, judge, and witnesses. Gheesh! Such venom already and the actual trial hasn't begun yet!
 
Can't "Thanks", Testa for that link about Rionda. Dirty pool, I say. Why would he want to stir up trouble? Ass.
 
Can't "Thanks", Testa for that link about Rionda. Dirty pool, I say. Why would he want to stir up trouble? Ass.

I don't know what Used Car Salesman (aka a$$hole)'s name is, but you'll know him when he talks, he wears his a$$hole out in public.
 
And that Li'l Trayvon was stupid enough to go into a gunfight unarmed~! Seriously. If someone was walking behind you and you turned and saw the person had a gun, would you physically attack him before or after he shot you? Seriously. Would you? They are SO trying to drum this up into a lynching case, and it just isn't.

How do you know that TM knew he had a gun?

So, all of you leftists are arguing that Zimmerman was 'menacing.' That would mean Li'l Trayvon had reason to reasonable fear the person who was merely walking behind him ONCE. Since walking behind some is not illegal and it does not rise to the level of menacing, in order for him to have 'reasonable fear' he would have to know about the gun. Of course, if he did then he was a stupid fuck to attack Zimmerman. But then, I'm pretty sure the little gang banger was just a stupid fuck. Period.

He followed him around the complex in a car, then got out..and was following him on foot, and then he gave chase.

This isn't trivial. He was carrying a gun at the time.
 
He followed him around the complex in a car, then got out..and was following him on foot, and then he gave chase.

This isn't trivial. He was carrying a gun at the time.

Where did you hear he "gave chase"? Never heard that Zimmerman went running after TM. Many people carry a gun. That is irrelevant since there is not evidence the gun was out of its holster at the time Zimmerman was on foot. Let's stick with the facts and stop assuming.
 
How do you know that TM knew he had a gun?

So, all of you leftists are arguing that Zimmerman was 'menacing.' That would mean Li'l Trayvon had reason to reasonable fear the person who was merely walking behind him ONCE. Since walking behind some is not illegal and it does not rise to the level of menacing, in order for him to have 'reasonable fear' he would have to know about the gun. Of course, if he did then he was a stupid fuck to attack Zimmerman. But then, I'm pretty sure the little gang banger was just a stupid fuck. Period.

He followed him around the complex in a car, then got out..and was following him on foot, and then he gave chase.

This isn't trivial. He was carrying a gun at the time.

Can we move past the prey thing? We're going around and around in a circle.

Reuters) - A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.

The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law's dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show.

"Don't use pepper spray," he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. "It'll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you," he said.

"Get a gun."

That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon.
 
yes but the distance is short

your splitting hairs


Around 40 feet isn't short since Zimmerman described being pinned at the "T" intersection.

Since the physical evidence does not comport with Zimmerman's story there are two possibilities:

1. Zimmerman's description was false when he described what happened and the altercation and Martin did not knock him straight to the ground and "mount" him pinning him to the ground.

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2. Zimmerman's description was false when he said he remained on the east/west walkway and didn't go down the south pathway.​



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review the police video with zimmerman


I did. Which is exactly my point. It wasn't until after the policeman pointed out the discrepancy that his story changed.


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Around 40 feet isn't short since Zimmerman described being pinned at the "T" intersection.

Since the physical evidence does not comport with Zimmerman's story there are two possibilities:

1. Zimmerman's description was false when he described what happened and the altercation and Martin did not knock him straight to the ground and "mount" him pinning him to the ground.

or

2. Zimmerman's description was false when he said he remained on the east/west walkway and didn't go down the south pathway.​



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review the police video with zimmerman


I did. Which is exactly my point. It wasn't until after the policeman pointed out discrepancy that his story changed.


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Oh thank God, a new topic.
 
So, all of you leftists are arguing that Zimmerman was 'menacing.' That would mean Li'l Trayvon had reason to reasonable fear the person who was merely walking behind him ONCE. Since walking behind some is not illegal and it does not rise to the level of menacing, in order for him to have 'reasonable fear' he would have to know about the gun. Of course, if he did then he was a stupid fuck to attack Zimmerman. But then, I'm pretty sure the little gang banger was just a stupid fuck. Period.

He followed him around the complex in a car, then got out..and was following him on foot, and then he gave chase.

This isn't trivial. He was carrying a gun at the time.

Can we move past the prey thing? We're going around and around in a circle.

Reuters) - A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.

The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner to complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law's dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show.

"Don't use pepper spray," he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. "It'll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you," he said.

"Get a gun."

That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon.

So he shot Trayvon Martin down like a dog, eh?

No way you folks should be worried about racism..no sir ree..

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