The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[R.D.]

You're boring me kid. But I'll answer the point about the trial...

The silly fool actually stated the facts, finally accepting them, only to move onto a whole new degree of absurd.

 

[Missourian]

Here is the link I posted here about witness list.

Witness List 2 | DiwataMan

Mind if I slip that into @MeBelle60 's documents thread?

I don't care what you slip into anything.

 

[Sunshine]

That's the nature of message boards, especially in cases like this. People who are not present in court can only speculate even if they have vast experience in similar cases! Did you come here to tell us that?



I don't know you but I'll take your word that you are an officer of the court... sunny! Are you the court jester?
BTW, knowledge of the legal system is not the issue at present... The discussion is about physics: a discipline you seem to have a poor grasp of! Please don't tell me you are an expert in forensics after failing your own physics test right here on this thread!

I have a PhD in geology...we MUST learn a TON of physics to obtain that degree (equivalent of a Masters) so know more about physics than you probably do. Whenever you simplify something like you are doing you open yourself up to all sorts of problems.

The real world is rarely simple when humanity comes into it. People have a tendency to screw up all sorts of things and a fight is a good example of that. There is zero evidence that GZ is a maniac. There is ample evidence that he is a overly zealous neighborhood watch guy with delusions of grandeur.

One of you CSI types made the comment that how could anyone take martial arts classes for 3 years and not be able to defend themselves in a fight. It is plain to see that GZ is not a physical person. His physical intelligence (i.e. how well he can maintain balance, his sense of tempo etc.) seems to be pretty low so his inability to defend himself is no surprise.

You have jumped to a conclusion and like Mr. Nifong did a few years back you will ignore anything that brings your conclusion into doubt.

Mr. nifong lost his law license for that transgression....

Are all of the medical examiners oriental?????

Remember the OJ trial? I think his name was Dennis Fhong or something. Real train-wreck.

They are unable to build private practices because no one will go to them. There are many many doctors in federal and state systems here who are foreign. The number 1 complaint at the VA is 'I can't understand my doctor.' They are not just MEs. I'm sure if you look, you can find the numbers somewhere.

 

[SantaFeWay]

Yeah, but none of these yahoos will read it, what with ABC being a "rightwing news organization" and all...

We'll see how the trial goes. Why muddy the waters with all this speculation?

Who is speculating...the prosecution did not disprove self defense beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's a fact.

That's one scary Joker considering he was one beautiful man.

Just a small homage to the sorely missed Heath Ledger. He had his whole life ahead of him. <sad>

A versatile talent in Hollywood...getting rarer every year, IMO.

Drugs are bad, Mkay?

Yes. Sorry. Waaaayyyyy OT. Couldn't help myself...

Consider it an excited utterance.

 

[Luissa]

I'll take that bet any day.

How's 1 month or 50 posts, whichever comes second?

Deal

Would you like to concede now or are you still high enough to think you stand a chance?

Why would I concede before the trial is over?
And I love the high comments, completely original.... Not really.

 

[R.D.]

When is the last time you brought anything significant to trial talk?...you are a spot flamer..a hit and go specialist....against the rules by the way.

You're boring me kid. But I'll answer the point about the trial...

The silly fool actually stated the facts, finally accepting them, only to move onto a whole new degree of absurd.

Good...keep it on the trial...quit immaturely chasing women around a message board that dont agree with you...makes you look small and

That's twice you've mistaken me for a man, tough guy. Just a heads up, no one takes advice from a hypocrite

Are you ever right?

 

[Mertex]

no, they could not. he is NOT white.

he is mixed race.

if he is white - obama is white, too

Right there it states he is a white male. Did the media make that up?

it does not matter what it states. media posted his photo - and he clearly is NOT white.

so they invented a moronic term "white hispanic" instead

Geez, I can't believe there is still an argument over the fact that Zimmerman was listed as "white".

Hispanics are considered caucasians, and caucasians are "white" - so he is white.
Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race, so he is Hispanic White.

And Obama is Black/White so he could list himself as either, but chooses black, looks more black than white, but he would not be wrong if he called himself "white".

On the US Census, there is no 1/2 white 1/2 black.

 

[RKMBrown]

When is the last time you brought anything significant to trial talk?...you are a spot flamer..a hit and go specialist....against the rules by the way.

You're boring me kid. But I'll answer the point about the trial...

The silly fool actually stated the facts, finally accepting them, only to move onto a whole new degree of absurd.

Good...keep it on the trial...quit immaturely chasing women around a message board ranting childish insults to those that dont agree with you...makes you look small and

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Sunshine]

I have to say, I really admire that you don't care how stupid you come across

When is the last time you brought anything significant to trial talk?...you are a spot flamer..a hit and go specialist....against the rules by the way.

You're boring me kid. But I'll answer the point about the trial...

The silly fool actually stated the facts, finally accepting them, only to move onto a whole new degree of absurd.

IOU + rep.

 

[25Caliber]

You're boring me kid. But I'll answer the point about the trial...

The silly fool actually stated the facts, finally accepting them, only to move onto a whole new degree of absurd.

Good...keep it on the trial...quit immaturely chasing women around a message board that dont agree with you...makes you look small and

That's twice you've mistaken me for a man, tough guy. Just a heads up, no one takes advice from a hypocrite

Are you ever right?

ignored...at sarahs request...good advice.

 

[legaleagle_45]

Right now there is no evidence outside of DD saying she thought he was near it...but near is vague and subjective. A boy confirming it would be good for the defense and their narrative for sure.

Dee Dee testified that TM was "by" it, not "near it" or even "near by" it. The testimony was given in conjunction with her explanation of why TM chose to confront GZ instead of running home. Paraphrasing from memory:

"Because he was already by it sir"

In the context of the testimony the natural meaning of this statement was that TM was immediately adjacent to the condo and that is why he could not or did not run home.

But she didnt know how near it he was...she said she thought a couple of houses down. I would contend that "near or by" is subjective because near in relation to where he came "from" could mean a couple of doors down or at the other side of the building. You can never tell for sure with DD...she even said she was having trouble hearing him.

You want to use this testimony to support the defense narrative...yet you want to throw out what she says just after it, which is in total contradiction of what GZ says was said and happened...me? I dont believe any of her testimony or give any credence to it...she was trying to defend why she failed to take the incident serious and had a separate motive, imo....you are picking and choosing.

I agree she got it wrong, that does not change the context. We can easily assert that Dee Dee did not get it right without calling her a liar.

Clearly and according to Dee Dee, he did not run to the condo because he was already "by" it. Whether you wish to say a couple of doors down or whatever, Dee Dee was under the impression that the confrontation with GZ occurred so close to the condo as to make running to the condo superfluous. That was the sole reason she said he was "by" it.

 

[mudwhistle]

I have a PhD in geology...we MUST learn a TON of physics to obtain that degree (equivalent of a Masters) so know more about physics than you probably do. Whenever you simplify something like you are doing you open yourself up to all sorts of problems.

The real world is rarely simple when humanity comes into it. People have a tendency to screw up all sorts of things and a fight is a good example of that. There is zero evidence that GZ is a maniac. There is ample evidence that he is a overly zealous neighborhood watch guy with delusions of grandeur.

One of you CSI types made the comment that how could anyone take martial arts classes for 3 years and not be able to defend themselves in a fight. It is plain to see that GZ is not a physical person. His physical intelligence (i.e. how well he can maintain balance, his sense of tempo etc.) seems to be pretty low so his inability to defend himself is no surprise.

You have jumped to a conclusion and like Mr. Nifong did a few years back you will ignore anything that brings your conclusion into doubt.

Mr. nifong lost his law license for that transgression....

Are all of the medical examiners oriental?????

Remember the OJ trial? I think his name was Dennis Fhong or something. Real train-wreck.

They are unable to build private practices because no one will go to them. There are many many doctors in federal and state systems here who are foreign. The number 1 complaint at the VA is 'I can't understand my doctor.' They are not just MEs. I'm sure if you look, you can find the numbers somewhere.

The guy that was passing me gas during my hip-surgery was Pakistani. 2 days after 911 no less. Sept 13, 2001.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

You know what is really amusing in all this? Seeing all you racist white people put in the position of defending a fat hispanic dude. lol

But I guess if you have to choose, you choose the lesser of the two evils, eh? The lighter skin?

^ what we actually see is yet another racist lolberal, in this case, that's you kooshdouche.

You assume anybody who disagrees with your idiotic and baseless analysis must be white, first of all, you racist twat.

THEN, you assume that white people MUST be judging on the basis of race, you irrational and babbling racist moron.

 

[25Caliber]

Dee Dee testified that TM was "by" it, not "near it" or even "near by" it. The testimony was given in conjunction with her explanation of why TM chose to confront GZ instead of running home. Paraphrasing from memory:

"Because he was already by it sir"

In the context of the testimony the natural meaning of this statement was that TM was immediately adjacent to the condo and that is why he could not or did not run home.

But she didnt know how near it he was...she said she thought a couple of houses down. I would contend that "near or by" is subjective because near in relation to where he came "from" could mean a couple of doors down or at the other side of the building. You can never tell for sure with DD...she even said she was having trouble hearing him.

You want to use this testimony to support the defense narrative...yet you want to throw out what she says just after it, which is in total contradiction of what GZ says was said and happened...me? I dont believe any of her testimony or give any credence to it...she was trying to defend why she failed to take the incident serious and had a separate motive, imo....you are picking and choosing.

I agree she got it wrong, that does not change the context. We can easily assert that Dee Dee did not get it right without calling her a liar.

Clearly and according to Dee Dee, he did not run to the condo because he was already "by" it. Whether you wish to say a couple of doors down or whatever, Dee Dee was under the impression that the confrontation with GZ occurred so close to the condo as to make running to the condo superfluous. That was the sole reason she said he was "by" it.

I agree...dont blame me...tell that to those that are using those words in her testimony to show proof he was actually IN the condo pondering a return attack on GZ.

It gets repeated and repeated and becomes common knowledge all of a sudden that he was actually IN the condo and there is no evidence to support it. By it could mean a number of things including being at the building which is where I think he was when he was talking to Rachel...if you look at both accounts you can see that Trayvon wasnt far from GZ...like when the exchange took place...if you want to believe DDs account then you would have to believe that GZ was at the end of the first building and Tray was at the end of the 3rd building where his condo was...doesnt matchup which is why Officer Serino said it was impossible in his mind..bumping everything together.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Right there it states he is a white male. Did the media make that up?

it does not matter what it states. media posted his photo - and he clearly is NOT white.

so they invented a moronic term "white hispanic" instead

Geez, I can't believe there is still an argument over the fact that Zimmerman was listed as "white".

Hispanics are considered caucasians, and caucasians are "white" - so he is white.
Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race, so he is Hispanic White.

And Obama is Black/White so he could list himself as either, but chooses black, looks more black than white, but he would not be wrong if he called himself "white".

On the US Census, there is no 1/2 white 1/2 black.

If he weren't white, he couldn't be racist, now could he? He would just be Hispanic, and nobody would be going apeshit over him killing a 17 year old teenager.

Listen to yourself.

 

[testarosa]

It's WAT After Dark all over again.

 

[testarosa]

RD has been contributing to this thread for quite awhile.

This is whacko bullshit

 

[Missourian]

RD has been contributing to this thread for quite awhile.

This is whacko bullshit

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[Rat in the Hat]

RD has been contributing to this thread for quite awhile.

This is whacko bullshit

Whacko? You want whacko?

Here's WHACKO!!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdjY6oy4Y2c]Darth Vader and the Imperial March on Bagpipes and Unicycle - The Unipiper - YouTube[/ame]



Sorry, just trying to lighten the mood.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

George Zimmerman Probably Won't Be Convicted of Murder or Manslaughter -- Here's Why - ABC News

Great Top Comment too:

Zimmerman told his side of the story three times within twelve hours of the event, and there were no significant differences. He did this WITHOUT a lawyer. To me, the actions of man who does not think he did anything wrong.

The prosecution was a witch hunt pushed by the usual race baiters. A repeat of the Duke lacrosse team, and the Tawanna Bradley story.