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HereWeGoAgain said:Uuuuh...GZ is a minority.
Whats up with that? Wrong color minority?
As an icon of the right wing bigots out there he is no longer a minority... he is now an honorary WHITE conservative! Like it or not!
Ethnicities in Peru run the gamut. Descendants of the original people or Amerindians of Peru, those who were under rule of the Inca empire, are the largest ethnic group, followed by those who are a mix of Spanish and Amerindian ancestry, also known as mestizos
which can mean one of two things
I can think of dozens.
Let's hear em
I am still trying to figure out where in anyone's testimony there was a statement that Zimmerman sustained fingernail scratches.
that is because there hasnt been any
What is he trying to get him to say here? Z should have kept pulling the trigger til it went click click click?
Wikipedia isn't a blog, and I listed them, also.Where has the media EVER used the term "black Hispanic"?
What do you mean the media has never used the term "black Hispanic"? Maybe you've never read something about one, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
It's hard to believe that people that use a computer to get on Political Forums are not able to use the computer to find out other things!
Her befuddlement is one many Americans share, whenever confronted with a reality that defies Hollywood-style stereotypes: Hispanics come in all colors and shapes. There are Asian Hispanics, white Hispanics, black Hispanics and even Latino Hispanics, as roughly 20 million people defined themselves, puzzled by the "race question" in the 2000 U.S. census.
But for the roughly 1 million black Hispanics who live in America, the question of their racial identity is one that pops up continuously along their lives, and not only once every 10 years during censuses.
HispanicTrending: Black Hispanics struggle for their racial identity
you consider a blog as being the press?
You only cared enough to put your two cents in, and when debunked, now all of a sudden you want to stop talking about it?Seriously, I could care less one way or the other, it isn't paramount within the case itself.
Next time don't deviate by adding your inane 2 cents.I care about this thread getting back to the actual facts of the trial itself. Am I the only one?
I can think of dozens.
Let's hear em
Boo... You just want Sunshine to neg me..
GZ was screaming:
GZ started choking on his blood from the bloody nose and could not scream for help any more.
GZ stopped yelling cause he did not need help any more
GZ stopped yelling in surprise that he hit him
GZ stopped yelling because he was talking to TM now
GZ stopped yelling cause he was too excited that his plan had worked
GZ stopped yelling out of shock from the gunshot going off
GZ stopped yelling cause he saw people coming to aid him... right after he shot the teen
...
TM was screaming:
TM stopped yelling cause he knew it was too late
TM stopped yelling cause it hurt to bad
TM stopped yelling cause he couldn't speak
TM stopped yelling cause he was dead
...
Maybe Georgia doesn't have any? I don't know, but it is not something that just happened after the GZ/TM incident. And I provided you with a link to a "media" story about black Hispanics, so you would learn something new and quit saying you never heard of it.What do you mean the media has never used the term "black Hispanic"? Maybe you've never read something about one, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
It's hard to believe that people that use a computer to get on Political Forums are not able to use the computer to find out other things!
Her befuddlement is one many Americans share, whenever confronted with a reality that defies Hollywood-style stereotypes: Hispanics come in all colors and shapes. There are Asian Hispanics, white Hispanics, black Hispanics and even Latino Hispanics, as roughly 20 million people defined themselves, puzzled by the "race question" in the 2000 U.S. census.
But for the roughly 1 million black Hispanics who live in America, the question of their racial identity is one that pops up continuously along their lives, and not only once every 10 years during censuses.
HispanicTrending: Black Hispanics struggle for their racial identity
Well, I have worked on over 3000 criminal defense cases since 1979 as a licensed private detective agency owner and seen maybe 10,000 more cases called on calendar call for the criminal dockets in probably 40 counties here in Georgia and NOT ONCE have I ever seen or heard of anyone label anyone a "black Hispanic" in the media or otherwise.
That is your assessment, so maybe you are a tad biased, yourself?And that is what IS ONLY relevant here as Zimmerman was labeled that as a result of BEING A DEFENDANT IN A CRIMINAL CASE of murdering A BLACK "CHILD".
Something about relevance.
So who died and left you in charge? It is okay for you to talk about the term "white hispanic" but nobody else should? Are you a control freak, as well?Stick to the subject at hand.
I can think of dozens.
Let's hear em
Boo... You just want Sunshine to neg me..
GZ was screaming:
GZ started choking on his blood from the bloody nose and could not scream for help any more.
GZ stopped yelling cause he did not need help any more
GZ stopped yelling in surprise that he hit him
GZ stopped yelling because he was talking to TM now
GZ stopped yelling cause he was too excited that his plan had worked
GZ stopped yelling out of shock from the gunshot going off
GZ stopped yelling cause he saw people coming to aid him... right after he shot the teen
GZ stopped yelling cause the guy he just shot started covering his mouth.
...
TM was screaming:
TM stopped yelling cause he knew it was too late
TM stopped yelling cause it hurt to bad
TM stopped yelling cause he couldn't speak
TM stopped yelling cause he was dead
...
What is he trying to get him to say here? Z should have kept pulling the trigger til it went click click click?
Hope not because semi automatics don't go click click click
I am still trying to figure out where in anyone's testimony there was a statement that Zimmerman sustained fingernail scratches.
that is because there hasnt been any
That's because he never "grabbed" Zimmerman's head and slammed it into the concrete.
What is he trying to get him to say here? Z should have kept pulling the trigger til it went click click click?
Hope not because semi automatics don't go click click click
Lol that was a figure of speech.
They go nothinggggggg
Then you yell I'm out!!! Load me up!
First off..yeah..he does have a burden to show why he thought it was reasonable to kill an unarmed human being not involved in criminal activity.
This is not self defense..per se..this is murder.
The defense HAD the burden of going forward. The STATE did that FOR the defendant.
The burden then goes right the fuck BACK to the State. And THEY are obliged by law to disprove the defense of justification once raised -- beyond a reasonable doubt.
And your spin is ridiculous in light of the evidence. The victim WAS engaged in criminal behavior (pummeling the defendant) at the time that GZ allegedly found it necessary to defend himself.
Well it's not ridiculous at all.
In any case, people who own guns and like to carry them around should be a bit nervous because this will shed light on exactly how dangerous that is, in Florida.
If Zimmerman walks it will mean at any time and any place an unarmed person can be shot for almost any reason at all.
And so long as they are killed, the killer will get away with it.
Wikipedia isn't a blog, and I listed them, also.What do you mean the media has never used the term "black Hispanic"? Maybe you've never read something about one, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
It's hard to believe that people that use a computer to get on Political Forums are not able to use the computer to find out other things!
Her befuddlement is one many Americans share, whenever confronted with a reality that defies Hollywood-style stereotypes: Hispanics come in all colors and shapes. There are Asian Hispanics, white Hispanics, black Hispanics and even Latino Hispanics, as roughly 20 million people defined themselves, puzzled by the "race question" in the 2000 U.S. census.
But for the roughly 1 million black Hispanics who live in America, the question of their racial identity is one that pops up continuously along their lives, and not only once every 10 years during censuses.
HispanicTrending: Black Hispanics struggle for their racial identity
you consider a blog as being the press?
You only cared enough to put your two cents in, and when debunked, now all of a sudden you want to stop talking about it?Seriously, I could care less one way or the other, it isn't paramount within the case itself.
Next time don't deviate by adding your inane 2 cents.I care about this thread getting back to the actual facts of the trial itself. Am I the only one?
If it were Zimmerman who was yelling and then stopped for any of those reasons, his voice would have trailed out of shock. He would have made some more noises.
This was a lot of crying for help and then sudden stop. I believe it was Trayvon.
Omg
Bring on the sleeze
if zimmerman is out of breath
as the state suggests after 7 seconds
there is no chance he chased down martin
Since the subliminal message of the media is that Zimmerman is bigger and therefore beat Li'l Trayvon to a pulp, I posted a pick of him and asked if that overweight, out of shape guy could actually beat up a buffed up football player.
I have spoken on here once about the time a patient stabbed me and hit me in the face. I am sure I was heavier, but she was about 4 inches taller. Her arms were longer than mine, and most of the defenses we had been taught to use failed until I got the hand she had the weapon in pinned up against the wall. Then all I could do was yell for help. I had to keep the hand immobilized. I had to fight her all the way across the room and I sustained several stab wounds in the process. Fortunately she was so crazy none of them were in anywhere that would cause death. But I can tell you from experience that a few inches in height in a struggle can make a tremendous difference and put the taller person at a great advantage.
So now you are going to try and break it down by measurements? Bwahaha!Show me a link where media HAS EVER used the term "black Hispanic"
You need to get out more yourself, too.
According to the March 2004 Current Population Survey, the annual household income for the population was US$51,235; US$26,269 for blacks; US$30,187 for Hispanics; and US$25,878 for black Hispanics.
Black Hispanics in the United States
Maybe you don't exist? You are just a figment of my imagination on this board?
What does that have to do with GZ being a "white Hispanic"?
Well, that explains it. If Elvis is alive and well, then GZ must not be a "white Hispanic"-Bwahahahahaha!
So your posts are correct (without links) but everyone else's, even with links don't prove anything? Right, gotcha! Bwahahahahaha!
Just because Faux News hasn't ventured that far doesn't mean it isn't there! Also, just because "you" never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.They needed TO ADD white in there to further their storyline.
How come media DOES NOT ever do any stories on black on black crime?
Show me a link WHERE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MEDIA has the media reported and labeled someone a "black Hispanic"?
In the United States, a Black Hispanic[2] or Afro Hispanic[2] (Spanish: Afrohispano, literally, "Afro Hispanic") is an American citizen or resident who is officially classified by the United States Census Bureau, Office of Management and Budget and other U.S. government agencies as a Black American of Hispanic descent."[3] For further discussion on the term African American, please see that article.
Black Hispanic and Latino Americans - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Although there are an estimated 1.7 million black Hispanics in this country, some people seem to have a hard time recognizing the existence of such individuals. Within days of being asked about Manny Ramirezs ethnicity, I encountered people questioning actress Zoe Saldanas. Like Ramirez, Saldana is also a black Dominican.
Black Latinos, Stand Up | Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture
How much "black" or "white" does a Hispanic have to have in them before they are considered either "black Hispanic" or "white Hispanic"?
Maybe they should consult you first?What is the line that must be crossed before the distinction is made and who decides that?
YOU, government, media, WHO?
You could have fooled me. Your experience must be very limited and confined to one small area since you seem to know little about what is going on in the rest of the country.Respectfully, if all you have is "you need to get out more often" then that is weak.
FYI, I have over 34 years experience working with criminal defense lawyers in these matters.
Sort of like Republicans being led by Faux News?Not the first time I have seen sheep being led by the media.
You were discussing it, too. If you don't want to talk about it, all you have to do is stop.I have you pegged different than that. Prove me right on you and get off the black and white nonsense.
I don't read every single report on crime in the United States, do you?If not then show me ONE TIME media has used "black Hispanic" when they described a defendant in a criminal case.
Oh sure, you get your butt whipped when you make an inane statement and all of a sudden you don't want to discuss it any further, except to throw in a dig about the media trying to smear GZ? Gotcha!How about we go with what the RELEVANT Facts are in this case:
TWO AMERICANS were fighting and one assaulted the other one.
That and THAT ALONE is the question for the jury.
Their race has NO relevance in this case.
But it does to the media to sell their storyline.
Let's hear em
Boo... You just want Sunshine to neg me..
GZ was screaming:
GZ started choking on his blood from the bloody nose and could not scream for help any more.
GZ stopped yelling cause he did not need help any more
GZ stopped yelling in surprise that he hit him
GZ stopped yelling because he was talking to TM now
GZ stopped yelling cause he was too excited that his plan had worked
GZ stopped yelling out of shock from the gunshot going off
GZ stopped yelling cause he saw people coming to aid him... right after he shot the teen
GZ stopped yelling cause the guy he just shot started covering his mouth.
...
TM was screaming:
TM stopped yelling cause he knew it was too late
TM stopped yelling cause it hurt to bad
TM stopped yelling cause he couldn't speak
TM stopped yelling cause he was dead
...
If it were Zimmerman who was yelling and then stopped for any of those reasons, his voice would have trailed out of shock. He would have made some more noises.
This was a lot of crying for help and then sudden stop. I believe it was Trayvon.
