The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

What are your Initial Thoughts on the Guilt or Innocence of George Zimmerman?


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No they don't. They are the eyes and ears for the police. Pursuit and apprehension is for the cops, not armed vigilantes.

GZ wasn't in "poor" health.

Don't like my hat? Find a cactus and sit on it.

You really are stupid.

How can a person be eyes and ears if they don't follow the suspicious person to SEE where they're going and what they're doing.

Sit on a cactus? Wow, you look much older than thirteen. Oh and it's not that hat that I have a problem with, it's the idiot wearing it.

Please post a link indicating GZ's health status.
>>> How can a person be eyes and ears if they don't follow the suspicious person to SEE where they're going and what they're doing.

You call the cops. You take a photo. Not rocket science.

To your insults, ... easy to play the part of a big man hiding behind a keyboard and a monitor. You fool no one with your Avatar. Cattleman my ass.

Calling the cops isn't always a solution. There is only so much they can do. By the time they get there the perp is usually gone. Unless you ask the perp what they're doing you probably won't delay them enough for the cops to arrive and the perp is usually gone. Then there's to possible chance it was all a mistake and the kid can identify where he lives and the cops won't have to be called.
 
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Who killed who?

You ignore the facts.......

I won't explain them because it's clear you're not rational.

You are comparing a dead teen with a serial killer. You are siding with a guy who's accused of serial sex offenses with one girl, fighting with another girl, and killed a teen. You are accusing this teen while ignoring GZ's own testimony that he was following the "fucking punk." The suspect that according to GZ probably has a gun. The suspect that GZ followed into the rain while armed.

And you are calling me irrational?

I don't know about all of that other crap. All we're talking about is this case. Once again, unless the perp seems threatening I don't see what harm following him would be. If you want everyone to just hide in their closets every time some strange hooded teenager walks through the neighborhood maybe you could suggest it where you live. I'm sure the criminals will love you folks. Easy pickings.
 
I disagreed with your posts all more than 48 hours apart. I said that.

I'm not complaining about your negg Sunshine. I'm asking what you are complaining about.

can you not tell the difference? You can't be that far gone.

I said above that GZ is not competent enough to determine that TM was probably still lurking. And not competent enough to pull the gun before TM got too close. GZ is so hopeless he probably did think TM ran away. To that instead of responding to my post, like someone with the guts to discuss a topic. You negged me ... again. For four neggs that you have yet to explain, I think I've earned the right to ask why. So far near as I can tell you just can't read. That or you get ticked every time I say something in support of GZ's defense. Which I find really odd since you pretend to be a GZ supporter.

What don't you understand about the word 'disagree'?

Ok, you see neggs in this thread on GZ's trial as a tool to express mere disagreement. Thanks, Sunshine.
 
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Jury nullification

no--just a vanilla "not guilty" I thought.


Black News : Both Simpson trials and Casey Anthony were jury nullification. Jury nullification occurs in a trial when a jury reaches a verdict contrary to the evidence in the case. Or fail to follow instructions as to the law.

hmmmmmm interesting definition. Everywhere else I read that a simple "not guilty" verdict was delivered by the jury.
 
You ignore the facts.......

I won't explain them because it's clear you're not rational.

You are comparing a dead teen with a serial killer. You are siding with a guy who's accused of serial sex offenses with one girl, fighting with another girl, and killed a teen. You are accusing this teen while ignoring GZ's own testimony that he was following the "fucking punk." The suspect that according to GZ probably has a gun. The suspect that GZ followed into the rain while armed.

And you are calling me irrational?

I don't know about all of that other crap. All we're talking about is this case. Once again, unless the perp seems threatening I don't see what harm following him would be. If you want everyone to just hide in their closets every time some strange hooded teenager walks through the neighborhood maybe you could suggest it where you live. I'm sure the criminals will love you folks. Easy pickings.

Needs to be some happy medium between shooting each other in the yard cause we suspect each other. How about talking?
 
that's all the excuse that's needed for a riot

Maybe everyone forgot about this and didn't realize there was going to be a trial for it until I brought it up on usmb.

lol

It's Al Sharpton's goal in life to make people aware of the black man's problem. Everyone knew. Cops lie and blacks get screwed.

Right, but the Feds closed the investigation and got the hell out of dodge. Smart.

Have you heard anything from Al and the other agenda's on this lately?

The state is left holding the bag.
 
Maybe everyone forgot about this and didn't realize there was going to be a trial for it until I brought it up on usmb.

lol

It's Al Sharpton's goal in life to make people aware of the black man's problem. Everyone knew. Cops lie and blacks get screwed.

Right, but the Feds closed the investigation and got the hell out of dodge. Smart.

Have you heard anything from Al and the other agenda's on this lately?

The state is left holding the bag.

yup--just wait for the verdict. Two white cops calling Trayvon's daddy a liar ain't gonna go over real big.
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It's Al Sharpton's goal in life to make people aware of the black man's problem. Everyone knew. Cops lie and blacks get screwed.

Right, but the Feds closed the investigation and got the hell out of dodge. Smart.

Have you heard anything from Al and the other agenda's on this lately?

The state is left holding the bag.

yup--just wait for the verdict. Two white cops calling Trayvon's daddy a liar ain't gonna go over real big.
(ps. don't move there )

I haven't been on the tweeter in the last few days to see what what's.
 
Granted, but I would make the case that in order to get that type of treatment, said player would have to be exceptional. I've never heard that about Trayvon. He seems to enjoy his "herb" too much to excel at sports. Given the general context of his social media postings do you really think this was a young man who was about to "straighten up"...or do you think he was a young man who was hanging with the wrong crowd and headed for trouble? You'll note that the Prosecution has chosen not to bring "friends" of Trayvon's forward to testify in any way. I wonder if that is because they don't want another debacle like they had with Rachel Jenteal? I'm thinking that the Prosecution wants nothing to do with giving the jury a better look at who Trayvon was hanging with and what they were into.

No, but I dont think he was a lost cause that should be thrown out with the trash either. He was a troubled teen heading down the wrong path. His mother sent him to his fathers...she was concerned about him and his behavior. He was about to start his senior year. Im not making the case that Trayvon was an angel by no means. Just that he was an athlete and should he follow in his moms and brothers footsteps he may be looking at college in a year, perhaps with a scholarship somewhere....Division I, II, or III perhaps.

And yes, his friends were not called, because when you call them, it opens a whole can of worms for the defense. They can go after their record and move to impeach. One reason people dont like to testify. I would have wanted very few friends of mine on the witness stand defending me at 17...lol. They would probably be a bigger help to me not saying anything and out of the courtroom...lol.

I imagine that Trayvon was sent to Sanford to live with his dad to get him away from his friends in Miami. That right there tells you volumes about what was going in his life. He's suspended from school and his mom doesn't trust him hanging around the house while she's at work. But does his dad do any better job of keeping him out of trouble? Not that I can see. If it had been my ass that got suspended from school I can guarantee you that I wouldn't have been trotting over to 7/11 for Skittles and some Arizona tea. I would have been doing "hard time" at home...no phone...no TV...and no friends visiting.

Trayvon started slipping in 2010
 
Judge is back on the bar.

nutshell whats the issue

Admission of a piece of evidence. They cannot come to a conclusion on whether to have a Daubert, Pierce, or Richardson hearing on admissibility. The evidence is an animation depicting the altercation between Zimmerman and Martin. The man who crafted the animation has been told to stay for deposition, Dr. Shu(Schu, or Shoe)maker. Both sides wish to proffer the witness tomorrow.

Court is in recess until 8:30 am
 
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Right, but the Feds closed the investigation and got the hell out of dodge. Smart.

Have you heard anything from Al and the other agenda's on this lately?

The state is left holding the bag.

yup--just wait for the verdict. Two white cops calling Trayvon's daddy a liar ain't gonna go over real big.
(ps. don't move there )

I haven't been on the tweeter in the last few days to see what what's.

I still think a tweeter is a cartoon. Don't ask me.
 
no--just a vanilla "not guilty" I thought.


Black News : Both Simpson trials and Casey Anthony were jury nullification. Jury nullification occurs in a trial when a jury reaches a verdict contrary to the evidence in the case. Or fail to follow instructions as to the law.

hmmmmmm interesting definition. Everywhere else I read that a simple "not guilty" verdict was delivered by the jury.

True, but nullification is the why.
 
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