The only people who continue to promote wind/solar are those who are ignorant of basic physics. Only nuclear can produce the levels of energy we need

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Iowa Reaches Milestone on Wind-Energy Production - 64%​

Going up by about 2% a year.
Granted IOWA is more conducive due to it's rural population, but it gives one an idea.
The Southwest could easily get near or above this with wind and solar.


Monday, July 17, 2023

Sixty-four percent of Iowa's energy production now comes from wind - a new record for the state, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Green-energy advocates call it a big step along the road to fossil-fuel independence.

Iowa has been a wind-energy leader for decades, but the Iowa Environmental Council Staff Attorney Michael Schmidt said the IEC has a goal of becoming fossil-fuel independent by 2035.

"The energy mix in Iowa has shifted from being dominated more by coal with some natural gas," said Schmidt, "to being dominated by wind with a much smaller fraction of coal and natural gas."

The IEC contends that wind is the Least Expensive source of energy generation, even without considering tax credits or subsidies, and says it is dramatically lower than the costs of coal - especially when accounting for factors such as human health and crop damage from fossil fuel-based energy production.

Iowa Reaches Milestone on Wind-Energy Production​

Sixty-four percent of Iowa's energy production now comes from wind - a new record for the state, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Green-energy advocates call it a big step along the road to fossil-fuel independence. ...

www.publicnewsservice.org

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[elektra]

Going up by about 2% a year.
Granted IOWA is more conducive due to it's rural population, but it gives one an idea.
The Southwest could easily get near or above this with wind and solar.


Sixty-four percent of Iowa's energy production now comes from wind - a new record for the state

An easy claim to make for a state that imports energy and produces a very tiny amount of energy.

Abuafuk's ideas are all proven false. We can simply look at how the government gives 60% of the cost to all solar and wind projects/corporations and how the corporations then give part of our money back as campaign donations.

Aba fuc can not show us anywhere in the USA where the price of electricity has gone down.

Traditional sources of electricity cost 30$ per mwh, green energy costs, $200 per mwh.


Anything different is only temporary government policy dictating the price.

 

[Woodznutz]

An easy claim to make for a state that imports energy and produces a very tiny amount of energy.

Abuafuk's ideas are all proven false. We can simply look at how the government gives 60% of the cost to all solar and wind projects/corporations and how the corporations then give part of our money back as campaign donations.

Aba fuc can not show us anywhere in the USA where the price of electricity has gone down.

Traditional sources of electricity cost 30$ per mwh, green energy costs, $200 per mwh.


Anything different is only temporary government policy dictating the price.

My power utility used to add a surcharge of 10 percent to your electric bill if you wanted to contribute to their wind and solar energy projects.

 

[elektra]

My power utility used to add a surcharge of 10 percent to your electric bill if you wanted to contribute to their wind and solar energy projects.

Our utility just raised rates, a delivery fee by $75, to everyone, to pay for wind and solar I don't want.

 

[elektra]

Abu dabba do, can't point to a single person paying less.

$200 per mw for solar and wind vs $30 per mw nuclear and fossil fuels.

 

[Woodznutz]

Our utility just raised rates, a delivery fee by $75, to everyone, to pay for wind and solar I don't want.

On the bright side we get lower "off-peak" rates during nighttime hours. I saved over $100, or about 10 percent, so far this year on my electric bill, with little inconvenience to myself. I live alone, but a 10 percent saving for a family would be much more.

 

[Crick]

Our utility just raised rates, a delivery fee by $75, to everyone, to pay for wind and solar I don't want.

Have they never raised rates in the face of rising fuel costs?

 

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Have they never raised rates in the face of rising fuel costs?

Rising fuel costs? I thought your argument is that the fuel costs of solar and wind is zero?

 

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Iowa Reaches Milestone on Wind-Energy Production - 64%​

Going up by about 2% a year.
Granted IOWA is more conducive due to it's rural population, but it gives one an idea.
The Southwest could easily get near or above this with wind and solar.


Monday, July 17, 2023

Sixty-four percent of Iowa's energy production now comes from wind - a new record for the state, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Green-energy advocates call it a big step along the road to fossil-fuel independence.

Iowa has been a wind-energy leader for decades, but the Iowa Environmental Council Staff Attorney Michael Schmidt said the IEC has a goal of becoming fossil-fuel independent by 2035.

"The energy mix in Iowa has shifted from being dominated more by coal with some natural gas," said Schmidt, "to being dominated by wind with a much smaller fraction of coal and natural gas."

The IEC contends that wind is the Least Expensive source of energy generation, even without considering tax credits or subsidies, and says it is dramatically lower than the costs of coal - especially when accounting for factors such as human health and crop damage from fossil fuel-based energy production.

Iowa Reaches Milestone on Wind-Energy Production​

Sixty-four percent of Iowa's energy production now comes from wind - a new record for the state, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Green-energy advocates call it a big step along the road to fossil-fuel independence. ...

www.publicnewsservice.org

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How much battery storage does Iowa have installed?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Have they never raised rates in the face of rising fuel costs?

Is that why Germany pays nearly 3 times what we pay?
Rising fuel costs for wind and solar?

 

[elektra]

Have they never raised rates in the face of rising fuel costs?

No, not at the rate wind and solar are driving up rates.

 

[Crick]

No, not at the rate wind and solar are driving up rates.

Forgive me if I don't believe you... On just about anything.

 

[elektra]

Forgive me if I don't believe you... On just about anything.

You could do research, into electric bills.

 

[Crick]

You could do research, into electric bills.

These sources do not support your claim.

AI Overview
Learn more…Opens in new tab

Adding renewable energy, like solar or wind power, generally leads to lower electric bills over timeas the cost of generating electricity from renewable sources is often lower than traditional fossil fuels, especially when considering long-term costs; however, initial installation costs can be high, and depending on the grid structure and policy, some consumers might see a slight increase in their bills due to factors like grid connection fees, even if they are generating their own renewable energy through systems like rooftop solar panels.


Key points about how renewable energy impacts electric bills:

• Cost reduction:
  As renewable energy technologies improve and become more widely adopted, the cost per kilowatt-hour of electricity generated from sources like solar and wind is decreasing, leading to potentially lower electricity bills for consumers.
  
  
  
• Net metering:
  Many jurisdictions have "net metering" policies that allow homeowners with solar panels to credit their electricity grid for the excess power they generate, essentially lowering their overall electricity bill.
  
  
  
• Fixed costs:
  While the cost of generating renewable energy can be lower, fixed costs associated with grid maintenance and upgrades may still be distributed across all customers, potentially leading to a slight increase in bills even for those using renewable energy.
  
  
  
• Impact of policy:
  Government incentives like tax credits can significantly lower the upfront costs of installing renewable energy systems, leading to greater savings on electricity bills.
  
  
  
• Variable generation:
  Renewable sources like solar and wind can be intermittent, meaning their energy production fluctuates depending on weather conditions, which can impact grid stability and potentially lead to higher costs for managing fluctuations.
  
  

Overall, the trend is that increasing renewable energy capacity is likely to lead to lower electricity bills for consumers in the long run as the cost of renewable energy technologies continues to decline.

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Prices and factors affecting prices - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Factors that affect electricity prices; costs for electricity generation, transmission, and distribution; and electricity prices for different types of customers.

www.eia.gov

The Paradox of Declining Renewable Costs and Rising Electricity Prices

Renewable energy is becoming a larger share of our energy mix. Their costs are falling but retail electricity prices are rising. Both can be true for now, but future changes in technology and market rules can reduce the price and system stresses of higher renewable penetration in the U.S.

www.forbes.com

Don’t blame clean energy for rising electric bills

A new report links rising U.S. power bills to fossil gas price spikes and utility incentives — not solar, wind, and batteries, as clean energy foes…

www.canarymedia.com

https://www.aceee.org/files/proceedings/2016/data/papers/6_1176.pdf

 

[elektra]

These sources do not support your claim.

AI Overview
Learn more…Opens in new tab

Adding renewable energy, like solar or wind power, generally leads to lower electric bills over timeas the cost of generating electricity from renewable sources is often lower than traditional fossil fuels, especially when considering long-term costs; however, initial installation costs can be high, and depending on the grid structure and policy, some consumers might see a slight increase in their bills due to factors like grid connection fees, even if they are generating their own renewable energy through systems like rooftop solar panels.


Key points about how renewable energy impacts electric bills:

• Cost reduction:
  As renewable energy technologies improve and become more widely adopted, the cost per kilowatt-hour of electricity generated from sources like solar and wind is decreasing, leading to potentially lower electricity bills for consumers.
  
  
  
• Net metering:
  Many jurisdictions have "net metering" policies that allow homeowners with solar panels to credit their electricity grid for the excess power they generate, essentially lowering their overall electricity bill.
  
  
  
• Fixed costs:
  While the cost of generating renewable energy can be lower, fixed costs associated with grid maintenance and upgrades may still be distributed across all customers, potentially leading to a slight increase in bills even for those using renewable energy.
  
  
  
• Impact of policy:
  Government incentives like tax credits can significantly lower the upfront costs of installing renewable energy systems, leading to greater savings on electricity bills.
  
  
  
• Variable generation:
  Renewable sources like solar and wind can be intermittent, meaning their energy production fluctuates depending on weather conditions, which can impact grid stability and potentially lead to higher costs for managing fluctuations.
  

Overall, the trend is that increasing renewable energy capacity is likely to lead to lower electricity bills for consumers in the long run as the cost of renewable energy technologies continues to decline.

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Prices and factors affecting prices - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Factors that affect electricity prices; costs for electricity generation, transmission, and distribution; and electricity prices for different types of customers.

www.eia.gov

The Paradox of Declining Renewable Costs and Rising Electricity Prices

Renewable energy is becoming a larger share of our energy mix. Their costs are falling but retail electricity prices are rising. Both can be true for now, but future changes in technology and market rules can reduce the price and system stresses of higher renewable penetration in the U.S.

www.forbes.com

Don’t blame clean energy for rising electric bills

A new report links rising U.S. power bills to fossil gas price spikes and utility incentives — not solar, wind, and batteries, as clean energy foes…

www.canarymedia.com

https://www.aceee.org/files/proceedings/2016/data/papers/6_1176.pdf

Gee, AI disagrees with reality, my electric bill.

Maybe AI can pay the higher monthly bill I get.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cost reduction:
As renewable energy technologies improve and become more widely adopted, the cost per kilowatt-hour of electricity generated from sources like solar and wind is decreasing, leading to potentially lower electricity bills for consumers.

Which is why Germans pay 40 cents per kWh, while the US pays 16 cents.

Their cheap renewables are really working for the Germans.

 

[Crick]

Which is why Germans pay 40 cents per kWh, while the US pays 16 cents.

Their cheap renewables are really working for the Germans.

Germany - and the rest of Europe - have always been more expensive than the US. For EVERYTHING except health care and education.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Germany - and the rest of Europe - have always been more expensive than the US. For EVERYTHING except health care and education.

If they spent more on education, maybe they'd realize 40 cents is more than 16 cents?