The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[SavannahMann]

just look at the simple facts

the dramatized news story suggests that a couple of racist Hillbillies saw an innocent unarmed black man jogging and gunned him down in the street

Why would they bother to stop their cars, call 911 and wait till he started punching them to shoot?

Why not just pull up next to him and blast him as he was unaware of your presence and intentions

They must have assumed he could be armed so why on Earth would they drive up next to him and start talking to him?

Why would they stop their truck and get out presenting themselves as a Target AFTER calling 911

They wouldn't.... they would just shoot him from the truck and keep on driving down the road and they sure as hell wouldn't have called 911 and kept the Line open during the entire incident and aftermath

What a ridiculous social justice fantasy world you have to be living in to buy this ridiculous story of a couple racist Hillbillies gunning down an innocent unarmed black jogger because he was caught in the wrong neighborhood....

So you reposted the OP that has been disproven.

Why does this bother you so much? Are you a relative?

Everything I've posted has been 100% accurate that's why you don't quote anything I say you just vaguely reference a theoretical emotion or try to ascribe a fallacious intention

So why did they stop the car?

why did they try to talk to him?

why didn't they just gun him down and keep on driving?

According to your OP to detain Arbury. Which is why they are charged with False/Illegal Imprisonment. They were pursuing a man in contrivance of the law.

how come the people that ran down and subsequently beat the holy hell out of Richard Ramirez didn't get in trouble?

They didn't see him commit a crime and only chased him because he fled

Don't forget the McMichaels never commissioned a citizen's arrest

They were standing in the middle of the street standing their ground when a wanted criminal attacked them

Again with Richard Ramirez. Sigh. We covered that but apparently it slipped your memory. Some cop.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

Wrong, they were standing their ground while a violent criminal attacked them because he got caught burglarizing No one saw Arbury commit a crime that day. If they truly wanted to stand their ground, they should've stayed in the their front yard. Arming themselves and then chasing Arbury down...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[SavannahMann]

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way

the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had suffered a string of recent burglaries and fled like a thief when he was confronted by the neighbor

The McMichaels weren't a couple of hillbillies sitting on their front porch downing canned beer when an innocent black jogger happened by

they are BOTH former professional law enforcement agents who recognized the local Petty Criminal hauling ass up the street from the video Larry English had captured after installing a security system and no trespassing sign due to the burglaries and may have been alerted by the first neighbor who had called 911 when he saw arberry illegally enter the crime scene and subsequently bolt when he realized he'd been caught

Per Georgia law they armed themselves and engaged in a Pursuit while on the phone with 911 and continued to relay the criminals position to the responding officers

At one point Arberry decided he was going to attack the McMichaels and ran towards Travis grabbing his shotgun and punching him in the face numerous times committing a felony assault

In fact it was so obvious a simple self-defense shooting that they couldn't even determine whether or not Travis had pulled the trigger intentionally or not as when an attacking person is pulling on a long gun it is perfectly plausible that they themselves set the fire arm off

The notion that a couple of vigilante Hillbillies set upon an innocent black jogger and gunned him down in the street is a complete joke

The fact is Arberry committed a crime by entering a residence with a no trespassing sign and then bolted when confronted thus providing reasonable suspicion that he was in fact the person they recognized from the videos and a prior encounter Travis had with him. In fact Gregory McMichael knew arberry because he had worked on one of his previous crimes

It's absolutely hilarious that mainstream media Outlets can get away with a false narrative and an edited video designed to convince people that these two men are bloodthirsty murderers who decided to hunt down an innocent black jogger, if they had planned to murder a jogger they certainly wouldn't have used a shotgun with a less-lethal round then is a available at Walmart to do so.

It certainly is a shame that businesses who have suffered damage due to riots can't sue these media outlets for false information leading to the violence and destruction that has crippled their

Hey, he was Black so the BLM terrorists and the patethic spineless White Guilt pukes want to make a martyr out of him. They always take the wrong side. They ain't too bright and they are filled with racial hatred.

couldn't be more accurate

black criminal martyrdom 101

To be honest in many ways I feel sorry for these spineless characters because they are actually victims of the media subculture who has a financial incentive to dramatize and racialize every incident that comes their way because fallacious victimhood narratives create outrage and outrage is highly profitable in the world of Internet Ad sales

And now we get to where I have been patiently waiting. You are outraged by this case because Whites were arrested and charged with killing a black. Thank you. You tried to hide it. But it always comes out if you are patient enough.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

just look at the simple facts

the dramatized news story suggests that a couple of racist Hillbillies saw an innocent unarmed black man jogging and gunned him down in the street

Why would they bother to stop their cars, call 911 and wait till he started punching them to shoot?

Why not just pull up next to him and blast him as he was unaware of your presence and intentions

They must have assumed he could be armed so why on Earth would they drive up next to him and start talking to him?

Why would they stop their truck and get out presenting themselves as a Target AFTER calling 911

They wouldn't.... they would just shoot him from the truck and keep on driving down the road and they sure as hell wouldn't have called 911 and kept the Line open during the entire incident and aftermath

What a ridiculous social justice fantasy world you have to be living in to buy this ridiculous story of a couple racist Hillbillies gunning down an innocent unarmed black jogger because he was caught in the wrong neighborhood....

So you reposted the OP that has been disproven.

Why does this bother you so much? Are you a relative?

Everything I've posted has been 100% accurate that's why you don't quote anything I say you just vaguely reference a theoretical emotion or try to ascribe a fallacious intention

So why did they stop the car?

why did they try to talk to him?

why didn't they just gun him down and keep on driving?

According to your OP to detain Arbury. Which is why they are charged with False/Illegal Imprisonment. They were pursuing a man in contrivance of the law.

how come the people that ran down and subsequently beat the holy hell out of Richard Ramirez didn't get in trouble?

They didn't see him commit a crime and only chased him because he fled

Don't forget the McMichaels never commissioned a citizen's arrest

They were standing in the middle of the street standing their ground when a wanted criminal attacked them

Again with Richard Ramirez. Sigh. We covered that but apparently it slipped your memory. Some cop.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

Wrong, they were standing their ground while a violent criminal attacked them because he got caught burglarizing No one saw Arbury commit a crime that day. If they truly wanted to stand their ground, they should've stayed in the their front yard. Arming themselves and then chasing Arbury down...

www.usmessageboard.com

how come you don't want to talk about the citizens arrest of Richard Ramirez?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way

the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had suffered a string of recent burglaries and fled like a thief when he was confronted by the neighbor

The McMichaels weren't a couple of hillbillies sitting on their front porch downing canned beer when an innocent black jogger happened by

they are BOTH former professional law enforcement agents who recognized the local Petty Criminal hauling ass up the street from the video Larry English had captured after installing a security system and no trespassing sign due to the burglaries and may have been alerted by the first neighbor who had called 911 when he saw arberry illegally enter the crime scene and subsequently bolt when he realized he'd been caught

Per Georgia law they armed themselves and engaged in a Pursuit while on the phone with 911 and continued to relay the criminals position to the responding officers

At one point Arberry decided he was going to attack the McMichaels and ran towards Travis grabbing his shotgun and punching him in the face numerous times committing a felony assault

In fact it was so obvious a simple self-defense shooting that they couldn't even determine whether or not Travis had pulled the trigger intentionally or not as when an attacking person is pulling on a long gun it is perfectly plausible that they themselves set the fire arm off

The notion that a couple of vigilante Hillbillies set upon an innocent black jogger and gunned him down in the street is a complete joke

The fact is Arberry committed a crime by entering a residence with a no trespassing sign and then bolted when confronted thus providing reasonable suspicion that he was in fact the person they recognized from the videos and a prior encounter Travis had with him. In fact Gregory McMichael knew arberry because he had worked on one of his previous crimes

It's absolutely hilarious that mainstream media Outlets can get away with a false narrative and an edited video designed to convince people that these two men are bloodthirsty murderers who decided to hunt down an innocent black jogger, if they had planned to murder a jogger they certainly wouldn't have used a shotgun with a less-lethal round then is a available at Walmart to do so.

It certainly is a shame that businesses who have suffered damage due to riots can't sue these media outlets for false information leading to the violence and destruction that has crippled their

Hey, he was Black so the BLM terrorists and the patethic spineless White Guilt pukes want to make a martyr out of him. They always take the wrong side. They ain't too bright and they are filled with racial hatred.

couldn't be more accurate

black criminal martyrdom 101

To be honest in many ways I feel sorry for these spineless characters because they are actually victims of the media subculture who has a financial incentive to dramatize and racialize every incident that comes their way because fallacious victimhood narratives create outrage and outrage is highly profitable in the world of Internet Ad sales

And now we get to where I have been patiently waiting. You are outraged by this case because Whites were arrested and charged with killing a black. Thank you. You tried to hide it. But it always comes out if you are patient enough.

Try to focus more on the facts and less on the salacious racial drama

How do you feel about the fact that Larry English was calling his neighbors and asking them to go over there and catch Ahamaud whenever his camera triggered his phone?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

if you had an ounce of tactical knowledge you would understand that pursuing a man who may be armed is a incredibly dangerous thing to do only a moron would do it unarmed ( that's why they grab their guns dummy)

Since time immemorial in English common law it's been legal for citizens to pursue and detain individuals suspected of crime and if that individual violently attacks them it's perfectly reasonable for them to defend themselves this is precisely what happened to Trayvon Martin and we saw how the law looked at that scenario in a legitimate display the American legal system... these days we see the American law being perverted by Propaganda spewed all over social media Outlets whose primary motivation is to get ad clicks by inciting outrage. We're living in a world where people like you are so confused that you're literally supporting a filthy disgusting no-good low-down dirty Street criminal who got caught in the act of burglarizing a neighborhood

As someone with over 20 years of professional Public Safety experience I am often put in a scenario where I have to use judgement in order to proceed with arrest procedures and the fact that you people are so easily confused misled and subsequently outraged makes my position more dangerous then it ever has been before... one day you may be in a situation where you could prevent a criminal from escaping Justice but your cowardly predilections to run and hide will kick in and you're hoping to change the law to facilitate legal protection for your spineless worldview

when that little girl's parents asks you why you didn't stop the rapist who was attacking her you no longer have to look inside your own cowardly heart and know that you were too much of a sissy to intercede and will be able to crawl into your own vagina protected by the law which now makes it illegal for a citizen to detain another citizen and required to act like a spineless worthless piece of garbage which apparently you are naturally

Again with this vague experience claim. Yet you have no clue what the law is or how it is applied. If you are a cop you are the worst cop in the world. Full stop. More than likely you have every episode of NCIS on constant play in Mommy’s basement.

It is not legal to tear out after someone with no evidence they are committing a crime. In history these are called lynch mobs.

The Ahmaud Arbery Killing and Georgia Law

Explaining the legal issues surrounding the incident of two white men shooting a black jogger they suspected of a crime

arcdigital.media

This was not a lawful citizen’s arrest
Greg McMichael told police that he and his son believed Arbery was responsible for burglaries in their neighborhood, but Georgia does not make it easy for citizens to go around arresting each other. Citizens are entitled to use reasonable force to arrest people who have committed crimes in their presence or immediate knowledge (courts have held that these are synonymous). Here is the statute:

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

The most important part of this statute is the unwritten bit — you are allowed to make arrests only with “reasonable force.” You can’t burn down an orphanage to catch one child snatching extra bowls of gruel. And the Georgia Supreme Court has held, as a matter of law, that you can’t chase someone down with a weapon because you think they have committed burglary. For example, it held that there was no evidence of a “citizen’s arrest” when a man with a baseball bat chased down someone who burglarized his home.

Now this is the actual factual law as applied in Georgia. It is nothing new. There have been cases to set precedent. This is hardly the first time a hit head has torn off after a criminal, real or imagined. It is not the first time the Courts have considered these issues. It is not the first time the text of the law passed by the legislature has been examined.

It is not even the first time I have dealt with an individual determined to avoid learning at all costs. It merely proves yet again the truism written by Rex Stout more than eighty years ago. Nero Wolf when he is asked if there is anything he can’t do states. “Yes. I can’t pour sense into the mind of a fool. I’ve tried.”

You are no cop. You aren’t even a rent a cop. And Call of Duty does not give you tactical expertise in the real world.

you continue to incessantly prattle about the parameters of citizen's arrest yet no citizen's arrest even occurred...?

had the criminal simply stood his ground and reported for the police he probably could have got off on a misdemeanor or probationary violation if he played his race cards right

but that's not what happened because he violently attacked them before any detainment record

Your Best Shot is that his diminished mental capacity made him panic and think there was a white Lynch Mob coming to get him because he watched too many BLM cartoons and totally got caught casing out a house

I'll bet if Larry English got enough death threats he wouldn't have prosecuted

 

[Canon Shooter]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

www.usmessageboard.com

why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

Of course, they had to get in their truck, chase him down, stop the truck in front of him and then get out.

Your boys are going to prison, numbnuts. Dig it...
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your hero rushed and attacked 2 professionals standing their ground

I don't have a "hero" in this, you cock-sucking little bitch.

Take my bet or admit to being a fucking little bitch coward...

You want me to bet on the legitimacy of the American legal system???

not a chance, I WOULD wager however that you would be the kind of character that would run and hide if you saw a black man crawling out of your daughter's bedroom window covered in blood

likely the police would find you in the tool shed covered in fecal material sucking your thumb as the man who raped and murdered your family disappeared Into the Night Never to be seen again and likely to murder Rob and rape other innocent women in the neighborhood because you were too much of a pussy to man up grab a gun and pursue a person you didn't see commit the crime

Again, I don't give a flying fuck what you believe. You're nothing to me. You could not be more meaningless.

What you continue to fail to realize is that, and what has been pointed out to you repeatedly, is when you say I saw someone jumping from a window in my house, that gives me a reason to believe that he's trespassing. After all, had he been invited in he'd have used the door, you stupid, retarded fuck.

Travis McMichael witnessed only someone running down the street. Hell, in my neighborhood, people run down the street all the time. Some are white and some are black. Should I just take up station at an open bedroom window with a Remington M24 and take them out? After all... THEY'RE RUNNING!!!

Your entire premise in this discussion is that Arbury was guilty of his crime because he's black, and the McMichael twins cannot be guilty because they're white. Period.

Well, they're going to be found guilty, they're going to go to prison, and they're going to prison because the American legal system will work exactly as good, decent people expect it to...

 

[Canon Shooter]

just look at the simple facts

the dramatized news story suggests that a couple of racist Hillbillies saw an innocent unarmed black man jogging and gunned him down in the street

Why would they bother to stop their cars, call 911 and wait till he started punching them to shoot?

Why not just pull up next to him and blast him as he was unaware of your presence and intentions

They must have assumed he could be armed so why on Earth would they drive up next to him and start talking to him?

Why would they stop their truck and get out presenting themselves as a Target AFTER calling 911

They wouldn't.... they would just shoot him from the truck and keep on driving down the road and they sure as hell wouldn't have called 911 and kept the Line open during the entire incident and aftermath

What a ridiculous social justice fantasy world you have to be living in to buy this ridiculous story of a couple racist Hillbillies gunning down an innocent unarmed black jogger because he was caught in the wrong neighborhood....

So you reposted the OP that has been disproven.

Why does this bother you so much? Are you a relative?

Everything I've posted has been 100% accurate that's why you don't quote anything I say you just vaguely reference a theoretical emotion or try to ascribe a fallacious intention

So why did they stop the car?

why did they try to talk to him?

why didn't they just gun him down and keep on driving?

According to your OP to detain Arbury. Which is why they are charged with False/Illegal Imprisonment. They were pursuing a man in contrivance of the law.

how come the people that ran down and subsequently beat the holy hell out of Richard Ramirez didn't get in trouble?

They didn't see him commit a crime and only chased him because he fled

Don't forget the McMichaels never commissioned a citizen's arrest

They were standing in the middle of the street standing their ground when a wanted criminal attacked them

Again with Richard Ramirez. Sigh. We covered that but apparently it slipped your memory. Some cop.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

Wrong, they were standing their ground while a violent criminal attacked them because he got caught burglarizing No one saw Arbury commit a crime that day. If they truly wanted to stand their ground, they should've stayed in the their front yard. Arming themselves and then chasing Arbury down...

www.usmessageboard.com

how come you don't want to talk about the citizens arrest of Richard Ramirez?

Um, because we're talking about Travis and Gregory McMichael?

 

[SavannahMann]

just look at the simple facts

the dramatized news story suggests that a couple of racist Hillbillies saw an innocent unarmed black man jogging and gunned him down in the street

Why would they bother to stop their cars, call 911 and wait till he started punching them to shoot?

Why not just pull up next to him and blast him as he was unaware of your presence and intentions

They must have assumed he could be armed so why on Earth would they drive up next to him and start talking to him?

Why would they stop their truck and get out presenting themselves as a Target AFTER calling 911

They wouldn't.... they would just shoot him from the truck and keep on driving down the road and they sure as hell wouldn't have called 911 and kept the Line open during the entire incident and aftermath

What a ridiculous social justice fantasy world you have to be living in to buy this ridiculous story of a couple racist Hillbillies gunning down an innocent unarmed black jogger because he was caught in the wrong neighborhood....

So you reposted the OP that has been disproven.

Why does this bother you so much? Are you a relative?

Everything I've posted has been 100% accurate that's why you don't quote anything I say you just vaguely reference a theoretical emotion or try to ascribe a fallacious intention

So why did they stop the car?

why did they try to talk to him?

why didn't they just gun him down and keep on driving?

According to your OP to detain Arbury. Which is why they are charged with False/Illegal Imprisonment. They were pursuing a man in contrivance of the law.

how come the people that ran down and subsequently beat the holy hell out of Richard Ramirez didn't get in trouble?

They didn't see him commit a crime and only chased him because he fled

Don't forget the McMichaels never commissioned a citizen's arrest

They were standing in the middle of the street standing their ground when a wanted criminal attacked them

Again with Richard Ramirez. Sigh. We covered that but apparently it slipped your memory. Some cop.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

Wrong, they were standing their ground while a violent criminal attacked them because he got caught burglarizing No one saw Arbury commit a crime that day. If they truly wanted to stand their ground, they should've stayed in the their front yard. Arming themselves and then chasing Arbury down...

www.usmessageboard.com

how come you don't want to talk about the citizens arrest of Richard Ramirez?

You mean besides what I already did? Sure. But first I need a couple things from you Scooter.

Explain how Georgia law applied to a California incident. Explain how two states separated by 2500 miles are exactly the same. I’m waiting

 

[SavannahMann]

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way

the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had suffered a string of recent burglaries and fled like a thief when he was confronted by the neighbor

The McMichaels weren't a couple of hillbillies sitting on their front porch downing canned beer when an innocent black jogger happened by

they are BOTH former professional law enforcement agents who recognized the local Petty Criminal hauling ass up the street from the video Larry English had captured after installing a security system and no trespassing sign due to the burglaries and may have been alerted by the first neighbor who had called 911 when he saw arberry illegally enter the crime scene and subsequently bolt when he realized he'd been caught

Per Georgia law they armed themselves and engaged in a Pursuit while on the phone with 911 and continued to relay the criminals position to the responding officers

At one point Arberry decided he was going to attack the McMichaels and ran towards Travis grabbing his shotgun and punching him in the face numerous times committing a felony assault

In fact it was so obvious a simple self-defense shooting that they couldn't even determine whether or not Travis had pulled the trigger intentionally or not as when an attacking person is pulling on a long gun it is perfectly plausible that they themselves set the fire arm off

The notion that a couple of vigilante Hillbillies set upon an innocent black jogger and gunned him down in the street is a complete joke

The fact is Arberry committed a crime by entering a residence with a no trespassing sign and then bolted when confronted thus providing reasonable suspicion that he was in fact the person they recognized from the videos and a prior encounter Travis had with him. In fact Gregory McMichael knew arberry because he had worked on one of his previous crimes

It's absolutely hilarious that mainstream media Outlets can get away with a false narrative and an edited video designed to convince people that these two men are bloodthirsty murderers who decided to hunt down an innocent black jogger, if they had planned to murder a jogger they certainly wouldn't have used a shotgun with a less-lethal round then is a available at Walmart to do so.

It certainly is a shame that businesses who have suffered damage due to riots can't sue these media outlets for false information leading to the violence and destruction that has crippled their

Hey, he was Black so the BLM terrorists and the patethic spineless White Guilt pukes want to make a martyr out of him. They always take the wrong side. They ain't too bright and they are filled with racial hatred.

couldn't be more accurate

black criminal martyrdom 101

To be honest in many ways I feel sorry for these spineless characters because they are actually victims of the media subculture who has a financial incentive to dramatize and racialize every incident that comes their way because fallacious victimhood narratives create outrage and outrage is highly profitable in the world of Internet Ad sales

And now we get to where I have been patiently waiting. You are outraged by this case because Whites were arrested and charged with killing a black. Thank you. You tried to hide it. But it always comes out if you are patient enough.

Try to focus more on the facts and less on the salacious racial drama

How do you feel about the fact that Larry English was calling his neighbors and asking them to go over there and catch Ahamaud whenever his camera triggered his phone?

He says he didn’t call them. By now your Heoric Vigilante’s attorneys have copies of phone records to show if he did call. And would have presented that at the bond hearing in November.

So again another assertion that is baseless.

It is the race issue that is outraging you. It is intolerable that Whites killing a Black are being punished. Now we know why you are creating law out of thin air. We know why you are so upset. I bet the idiot in Florida found Guilty for killing a Black guy over a handicapped spot had you stomping around Mama’s basement in an impotent rage for weeks.

And it further proves that you are not in Public Safety as anything more than a Crossing Guard. If you were by now someone would have explained how Blacks have the same rights as Whites by the Constitution.

 

[SavannahMann]

if you had an ounce of tactical knowledge you would understand that pursuing a man who may be armed is a incredibly dangerous thing to do only a moron would do it unarmed ( that's why they grab their guns dummy)

Since time immemorial in English common law it's been legal for citizens to pursue and detain individuals suspected of crime and if that individual violently attacks them it's perfectly reasonable for them to defend themselves this is precisely what happened to Trayvon Martin and we saw how the law looked at that scenario in a legitimate display the American legal system... these days we see the American law being perverted by Propaganda spewed all over social media Outlets whose primary motivation is to get ad clicks by inciting outrage. We're living in a world where people like you are so confused that you're literally supporting a filthy disgusting no-good low-down dirty Street criminal who got caught in the act of burglarizing a neighborhood

As someone with over 20 years of professional Public Safety experience I am often put in a scenario where I have to use judgement in order to proceed with arrest procedures and the fact that you people are so easily confused misled and subsequently outraged makes my position more dangerous then it ever has been before... one day you may be in a situation where you could prevent a criminal from escaping Justice but your cowardly predilections to run and hide will kick in and you're hoping to change the law to facilitate legal protection for your spineless worldview

when that little girl's parents asks you why you didn't stop the rapist who was attacking her you no longer have to look inside your own cowardly heart and know that you were too much of a sissy to intercede and will be able to crawl into your own vagina protected by the law which now makes it illegal for a citizen to detain another citizen and required to act like a spineless worthless piece of garbage which apparently you are naturally

Again with this vague experience claim. Yet you have no clue what the law is or how it is applied. If you are a cop you are the worst cop in the world. Full stop. More than likely you have every episode of NCIS on constant play in Mommy’s basement.

It is not legal to tear out after someone with no evidence they are committing a crime. In history these are called lynch mobs.

The Ahmaud Arbery Killing and Georgia Law

Explaining the legal issues surrounding the incident of two white men shooting a black jogger they suspected of a crime

arcdigital.media

This was not a lawful citizen’s arrest
Greg McMichael told police that he and his son believed Arbery was responsible for burglaries in their neighborhood, but Georgia does not make it easy for citizens to go around arresting each other. Citizens are entitled to use reasonable force to arrest people who have committed crimes in their presence or immediate knowledge (courts have held that these are synonymous). Here is the statute:

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

The most important part of this statute is the unwritten bit — you are allowed to make arrests only with “reasonable force.” You can’t burn down an orphanage to catch one child snatching extra bowls of gruel. And the Georgia Supreme Court has held, as a matter of law, that you can’t chase someone down with a weapon because you think they have committed burglary. For example, it held that there was no evidence of a “citizen’s arrest” when a man with a baseball bat chased down someone who burglarized his home.

Now this is the actual factual law as applied in Georgia. It is nothing new. There have been cases to set precedent. This is hardly the first time a hit head has torn off after a criminal, real or imagined. It is not the first time the Courts have considered these issues. It is not the first time the text of the law passed by the legislature has been examined.

It is not even the first time I have dealt with an individual determined to avoid learning at all costs. It merely proves yet again the truism written by Rex Stout more than eighty years ago. Nero Wolf when he is asked if there is anything he can’t do states. “Yes. I can’t pour sense into the mind of a fool. I’ve tried.”

You are no cop. You aren’t even a rent a cop. And Call of Duty does not give you tactical expertise in the real world.

you continue to incessantly prattle about the parameters of citizen's arrest yet no citizen's arrest even occurred...?

had the criminal simply stood his ground and reported for the police he probably could have got off on a misdemeanor or probationary violation if he played his race cards right

but that's not what happened because he violently attacked them before any detainment record

Your Best Shot is that his diminished mental capacity made him panic and think there was a white Lynch Mob coming to get him because he watched too many BLM cartoons and totally got caught casing out a house

I'll bet if Larry English got enough death threats he wouldn't have prosecuted

Yeah. That is why the McMichaels pursued him. Cut him off with their truck. And were standing and blocking his path armed to the teeth.

What is actually hilarious is your OP claimed all of this. The pursuit. The arming up. Everything was just fine and dandy and completely legal. Now you are claiming that it never happened. I guess we should take solace in the fact you are no longer claiming it was perfectly legal, at least not in this particular reply. Two up you are, but not this one.

Consistent you are not.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

www.usmessageboard.com

why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

Of course, they had to get in their truck, chase him down, stop the truck in front of him and then get out.

Your boys are going to prison, numbnuts. Dig it...
`

your hero rushed and attacked 2 professionals standing their ground

I don't have a "hero" in this, you cock-sucking little bitch.

Take my bet or admit to being a fucking little bitch coward...

You want me to bet on the legitimacy of the American legal system???

not a chance, I WOULD wager however that you would be the kind of character that would run and hide if you saw a black man crawling out of your daughter's bedroom window covered in blood

likely the police would find you in the tool shed covered in fecal material sucking your thumb as the man who raped and murdered your family disappeared Into the Night Never to be seen again and likely to murder Rob and rape other innocent women in the neighborhood because you were too much of a pussy to man up grab a gun and pursue a person you didn't see commit the crime

Again, I don't give a flying fuck what you believe. You're nothing to me. You could not be more meaningless.

What you continue to fail to realize is that, and what has been pointed out to you repeatedly, is when you say I saw someone jumping from a window in my house, that gives me a reason to believe that he's trespassing. After all, had he been invited in he'd have used the door, you stupid, retarded fuck.

Travis McMichael witnessed only someone running down the street. Hell, in my neighborhood, people run down the street all the time. Some are white and some are black. Should I just take up station at an open bedroom window with a Remington M24 and take them out? After all... THEY'RE RUNNING!!!

Your entire premise in this discussion is that Arbury was guilty of his crime because he's black, and the McMichael twins cannot be guilty because they're white. Period.

Well, they're going to be found guilty, they're going to go to prison, and they're going to prison because the American legal system will work exactly as good, decent people expect it to...

Travis had met him in person and seen him on video doing illegal things thus he recognized him sprinting in a panic up the street as a known and wanted criminal

that's exactly how they caught Richard Ramirez you know... somebody recognized him, he panicked and ran and then they caught him

Nobody saw him commit a crime

they just recognized him from a photo and he panicked when confronted

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

if you had an ounce of tactical knowledge you would understand that pursuing a man who may be armed is a incredibly dangerous thing to do only a moron would do it unarmed ( that's why they grab their guns dummy)

Since time immemorial in English common law it's been legal for citizens to pursue and detain individuals suspected of crime and if that individual violently attacks them it's perfectly reasonable for them to defend themselves this is precisely what happened to Trayvon Martin and we saw how the law looked at that scenario in a legitimate display the American legal system... these days we see the American law being perverted by Propaganda spewed all over social media Outlets whose primary motivation is to get ad clicks by inciting outrage. We're living in a world where people like you are so confused that you're literally supporting a filthy disgusting no-good low-down dirty Street criminal who got caught in the act of burglarizing a neighborhood

As someone with over 20 years of professional Public Safety experience I am often put in a scenario where I have to use judgement in order to proceed with arrest procedures and the fact that you people are so easily confused misled and subsequently outraged makes my position more dangerous then it ever has been before... one day you may be in a situation where you could prevent a criminal from escaping Justice but your cowardly predilections to run and hide will kick in and you're hoping to change the law to facilitate legal protection for your spineless worldview

when that little girl's parents asks you why you didn't stop the rapist who was attacking her you no longer have to look inside your own cowardly heart and know that you were too much of a sissy to intercede and will be able to crawl into your own vagina protected by the law which now makes it illegal for a citizen to detain another citizen and required to act like a spineless worthless piece of garbage which apparently you are naturally

Again with this vague experience claim. Yet you have no clue what the law is or how it is applied. If you are a cop you are the worst cop in the world. Full stop. More than likely you have every episode of NCIS on constant play in Mommy’s basement.

It is not legal to tear out after someone with no evidence they are committing a crime. In history these are called lynch mobs.

The Ahmaud Arbery Killing and Georgia Law

Explaining the legal issues surrounding the incident of two white men shooting a black jogger they suspected of a crime

arcdigital.media

This was not a lawful citizen’s arrest
Greg McMichael told police that he and his son believed Arbery was responsible for burglaries in their neighborhood, but Georgia does not make it easy for citizens to go around arresting each other. Citizens are entitled to use reasonable force to arrest people who have committed crimes in their presence or immediate knowledge (courts have held that these are synonymous). Here is the statute:

A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.

The most important part of this statute is the unwritten bit — you are allowed to make arrests only with “reasonable force.” You can’t burn down an orphanage to catch one child snatching extra bowls of gruel. And the Georgia Supreme Court has held, as a matter of law, that you can’t chase someone down with a weapon because you think they have committed burglary. For example, it held that there was no evidence of a “citizen’s arrest” when a man with a baseball bat chased down someone who burglarized his home.

Now this is the actual factual law as applied in Georgia. It is nothing new. There have been cases to set precedent. This is hardly the first time a hit head has torn off after a criminal, real or imagined. It is not the first time the Courts have considered these issues. It is not the first time the text of the law passed by the legislature has been examined.

It is not even the first time I have dealt with an individual determined to avoid learning at all costs. It merely proves yet again the truism written by Rex Stout more than eighty years ago. Nero Wolf when he is asked if there is anything he can’t do states. “Yes. I can’t pour sense into the mind of a fool. I’ve tried.”

You are no cop. You aren’t even a rent a cop. And Call of Duty does not give you tactical expertise in the real world.

you continue to incessantly prattle about the parameters of citizen's arrest yet no citizen's arrest even occurred...?

had the criminal simply stood his ground and reported for the police he probably could have got off on a misdemeanor or probationary violation if he played his race cards right

but that's not what happened because he violently attacked them before any detainment record

Your Best Shot is that his diminished mental capacity made him panic and think there was a white Lynch Mob coming to get him because he watched too many BLM cartoons and totally got caught casing out a house

I'll bet if Larry English got enough death threats he wouldn't have prosecuted

Yeah. That is why the McMichaels pursued him. Cut him off with their truck. And were standing and blocking his path armed to the teeth.

What is actually hilarious is your OP claimed all of this. The pursuit. The arming up. Everything was just fine and dandy and completely legal. Now you are claiming that it never happened. I guess we should take solace in the fact you are no longer claiming it was perfectly legal, at least not in this particular reply. Two up you are, but not this one.

Consistent you are not.

If their intention was to conduct a citizen's arrest it never was completed

nothing in my OP "didn't happen" lol

you can only cut off cars with other cars not people LOL

people can jump right over cars and keep on running

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way

the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had suffered a string of recent burglaries and fled like a thief when he was confronted by the neighbor

The McMichaels weren't a couple of hillbillies sitting on their front porch downing canned beer when an innocent black jogger happened by

they are BOTH former professional law enforcement agents who recognized the local Petty Criminal hauling ass up the street from the video Larry English had captured after installing a security system and no trespassing sign due to the burglaries and may have been alerted by the first neighbor who had called 911 when he saw arberry illegally enter the crime scene and subsequently bolt when he realized he'd been caught

Per Georgia law they armed themselves and engaged in a Pursuit while on the phone with 911 and continued to relay the criminals position to the responding officers

At one point Arberry decided he was going to attack the McMichaels and ran towards Travis grabbing his shotgun and punching him in the face numerous times committing a felony assault

In fact it was so obvious a simple self-defense shooting that they couldn't even determine whether or not Travis had pulled the trigger intentionally or not as when an attacking person is pulling on a long gun it is perfectly plausible that they themselves set the fire arm off

The notion that a couple of vigilante Hillbillies set upon an innocent black jogger and gunned him down in the street is a complete joke

The fact is Arberry committed a crime by entering a residence with a no trespassing sign and then bolted when confronted thus providing reasonable suspicion that he was in fact the person they recognized from the videos and a prior encounter Travis had with him. In fact Gregory McMichael knew arberry because he had worked on one of his previous crimes

It's absolutely hilarious that mainstream media Outlets can get away with a false narrative and an edited video designed to convince people that these two men are bloodthirsty murderers who decided to hunt down an innocent black jogger, if they had planned to murder a jogger they certainly wouldn't have used a shotgun with a less-lethal round then is a available at Walmart to do so.

It certainly is a shame that businesses who have suffered damage due to riots can't sue these media outlets for false information leading to the violence and destruction that has crippled their

Hey, he was Black so the BLM terrorists and the patethic spineless White Guilt pukes want to make a martyr out of him. They always take the wrong side. They ain't too bright and they are filled with racial hatred.

couldn't be more accurate

black criminal martyrdom 101

To be honest in many ways I feel sorry for these spineless characters because they are actually victims of the media subculture who has a financial incentive to dramatize and racialize every incident that comes their way because fallacious victimhood narratives create outrage and outrage is highly profitable in the world of Internet Ad sales

And now we get to where I have been patiently waiting. You are outraged by this case because Whites were arrested and charged with killing a black. Thank you. You tried to hide it. But it always comes out if you are patient enough.

Try to focus more on the facts and less on the salacious racial drama

How do you feel about the fact that Larry English was calling his neighbors and asking them to go over there and catch Ahamaud whenever his camera triggered his phone?

He says he didn’t call them. By now your Heoric Vigilante’s attorneys have copies of phone records to show if he did call. And would have presented that at the bond hearing in November.

So again another assertion that is baseless.

It is the race issue that is outraging you. It is intolerable that Whites killing a Black are being punished. Now we know why you are creating law out of thin air. We know why you are so upset. I bet the idiot in Florida found Guilty for killing a Black guy over a handicapped spot had you stomping around Mama’s basement in an impotent rage for weeks.

And it further proves that you are not in Public Safety as anything more than a Crossing Guard. If you were by now someone would have explained how Blacks have the same rights as Whites by the Constitution.

I'm not even mildly upset about this

in fact I find it terribly entertaining to witness firsthand just how foolish people are and just how easily manipulated their scrawny little Minds can be

no one pointed a gun at your criminal hero and no one assaulted him

he's the one that first committed the act of violence

case closed

* you just believe whatever you see on The View

in my line of work we have to deal with stupid and insane people all the time

I spend my time on these forums for Verbal Judo practice

that's why I never use profanity or get aggressive with people because I have Masterfull control over my emotions

it's another thing that helps me when I'm competing in martial arts

Usually when someone tries to change the subject away from the point of discussion it means they're losing

How come you seem so desperate to talk about me and not the case?

 

[SavannahMann]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

www.usmessageboard.com

why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

Of course, they had to get in their truck, chase him down, stop the truck in front of him and then get out.

Your boys are going to prison, numbnuts. Dig it...
`

your hero rushed and attacked 2 professionals standing their ground

I don't have a "hero" in this, you cock-sucking little bitch.

Take my bet or admit to being a fucking little bitch coward...

You want me to bet on the legitimacy of the American legal system???

not a chance, I WOULD wager however that you would be the kind of character that would run and hide if you saw a black man crawling out of your daughter's bedroom window covered in blood

likely the police would find you in the tool shed covered in fecal material sucking your thumb as the man who raped and murdered your family disappeared Into the Night Never to be seen again and likely to murder Rob and rape other innocent women in the neighborhood because you were too much of a pussy to man up grab a gun and pursue a person you didn't see commit the crime

Again, I don't give a flying fuck what you believe. You're nothing to me. You could not be more meaningless.

What you continue to fail to realize is that, and what has been pointed out to you repeatedly, is when you say I saw someone jumping from a window in my house, that gives me a reason to believe that he's trespassing. After all, had he been invited in he'd have used the door, you stupid, retarded fuck.

Travis McMichael witnessed only someone running down the street. Hell, in my neighborhood, people run down the street all the time. Some are white and some are black. Should I just take up station at an open bedroom window with a Remington M24 and take them out? After all... THEY'RE RUNNING!!!

Your entire premise in this discussion is that Arbury was guilty of his crime because he's black, and the McMichael twins cannot be guilty because they're white. Period.

Well, they're going to be found guilty, they're going to go to prison, and they're going to prison because the American legal system will work exactly as good, decent people expect it to...

Travis had met him in person and seen him on video doing illegal things thus he recognized him sprinting in a panic up the street as a known and wanted criminal

that's exactly how they caught Richard Ramirez you know... somebody recognized him, he panicked and ran and then they caught him

Nobody saw him commit a crime

they just recognized him from a photo and he panicked when confronted

You really need to learn the laws. Or read the lawyers explanation I posted. Visiting a construction site is not illegal in Georgia. In fact the same day Arbury was killed three others visited the same construction site.

Dude. Accept it. The law does not say what you think it should.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Travis had met him in person and seen him on video doing illegal things thus he recognized him sprinting in a panic up the street as a known and wanted criminal

He was wanted?

LIAR.

Unlike Ramirez, who was actually wanted, Arbury was not, as no warrant had been issued for his arrest.

There was, in fact, a warrant issued for the arrest of Richard Ramirez...

that's exactly how they caught Richard Ramirez you know... somebody recognized him, he panicked and ran and then they caught him

Nobody saw him commit a crime

they just recognized him from a photo and he panicked when confronted

No one needed to see him commit a crime, for the simple fact that a warrant had been issued for his arrest. There was no warrant issued for the arrest of Arbury.

I know that's a distinction you lack the capacity to comprehend, but it's a HUGE difference between the two cases...

 

[Canon Shooter]

I'm not even mildly upset about this

That's the funniest fucking thing you've posted yet.

You're repeatedly filling your diaper. The very thought that someone might actually be held accountable for his actions enrages you, simply because the guy is white...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

Why did a man run 30 yards directly at people who were chasing him down?

You are so ignorant of the details of this case it’s absurd that you post anything at all.

Who do you think was recording the aggravated assault and murder?

How would an unarmed jogger being harrassed by two armed men in a pickup truck know that the guy in the car also harrassing and following him not armed as well. AA tried to avoid TM by running to the right of the truck when TM was standing on the left side of the truck, The video shows TM ran to the front of the truck, and then so far to the right side of the truck that TM and AA both disappeared - and the first shot was fired - AA was wounded but not lethally by the first shot.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Why did a man run 30 yards directly at people who were chasing him down?

I answered that question last year:

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"They were setting up an armed barricade."

It is amazing how you can watch the video and conclude thi

it’s not amazing to see how your white extremist gun fanaticism distorts your mind whereas you cannot see this as an armed barracade set up to hem the jogger in and stop him.

If they were going to let him pass the Gunman (yellow arrow) would have stayed put on left of the double yellow line. The jogger would be alive and the two assholes would not be arrested for aggravated assault and murder.

Do you think the shotgunner walked or ran to the location designated by the yellow arrow? Did he not “rush” the attacker.
SavannahMann do you know if the police were given this video at the time of the arrest. And if not why did it’s owner withold it from police?

This video does not help the murderers because shotgunner had to move pretty fast toward his target to initiate contact.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

just look at the simple facts

the dramatized news story suggests that a couple of racist Hillbillies saw an innocent unarmed black man jogging and gunned him down in the street

Why would they bother to stop their cars, call 911 and wait till he started punching them to shoot?

Why not just pull up next to him and blast him as he was unaware of your presence and intentions

They must have assumed he could be armed so why on Earth would they drive up next to him and start talking to him?

Why would they stop their truck and get out presenting themselves as a Target AFTER calling 911

They wouldn't.... they would just shoot him from the truck and keep on driving down the road and they sure as hell wouldn't have called 911 and kept the Line open during the entire incident and aftermath

What a ridiculous social justice fantasy world you have to be living in to buy this ridiculous story of a couple racist Hillbillies gunning down an innocent unarmed black jogger because he was caught in the wrong neighborhood....

So you reposted the OP that has been disproven.

Why does this bother you so much? Are you a relative?

Everything I've posted has been 100% accurate that's why you don't quote anything I say you just vaguely reference a theoretical emotion or try to ascribe a fallacious intention

So why did they stop the car?

why did they try to talk to him?

why didn't they just gun him down and keep on driving?

If they were just there to talk why did they rush off to get guns? Why did they as you say go into pursuit? Why did they hem him in? Why did Travis get out of the truck with the shotgun? If he was just there to talk why did he need a shotgun? Why have a round in the chamber?

Read what the lawyer says.

The Ahmaud Arbery Killing and Georgia Law

Explaining the legal issues surrounding the incident of two white men shooting a black jogger they suspected of a crime

arcdigital.media

You are wrong. And you won’t say why this case has so enraged you. I say enraged. Because you aren’t debating. Your demanding that the world change everything to align with your idea of what is right and legal. Now either you are seriously disturbed with delusions of grandeur and this notion that you should be a potentate. Or there is another reason why some school crossing guard from California is so wrapped around the axle about a pretty much open and shut case from Georgia. There are miscarriages of justice in California if that was your motivation. So what is it really?

Why did they grab guns before they engaged in an attempted citizen's arrest...???
If you take it upon yourself to chase down a potentially violent armed criminal it's a good idea that you arm yourself

why do you hate guns?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

How did they chase a guy down when they were standing in the middle of the street and he was running directly at them?

You're a fucking idiot.

Seriously, you're fucking brain dead...

they lied to you

*its not your fault

Ok. Proof they were not just standing in the road. I am not sure of the source. Perhaps you can evaluate it for me.

The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

It's unlikely any other case in recent history has inspired more misinformation as media Outlets clearly have an incentive to racialize and dramatized every incident that comes their way the simple fact is arberry was a well-known local Petty Criminal who was caught casing out a house that had...

www.usmessageboard.com

why did Arberry attack the mcmichels??

he ran at 2 men

he ran over 30 yards DIRECTLY at them and ATTACKED

Of course, they had to get in their truck, chase him down, stop the truck in front of him and then get out.

Your boys are going to prison, numbnuts. Dig it...
`

your hero rushed and attacked 2 professionals standing their ground

I don't have a "hero" in this, you cock-sucking little bitch.

Take my bet or admit to being a fucking little bitch coward...

You want me to bet on the legitimacy of the American legal system???

not a chance, I WOULD wager however that you would be the kind of character that would run and hide if you saw a black man crawling out of your daughter's bedroom window covered in blood

likely the police would find you in the tool shed covered in fecal material sucking your thumb as the man who raped and murdered your family disappeared Into the Night Never to be seen again and likely to murder Rob and rape other innocent women in the neighborhood because you were too much of a pussy to man up grab a gun and pursue a person you didn't see commit the crime

Again, I don't give a flying fuck what you believe. You're nothing to me. You could not be more meaningless.

What you continue to fail to realize is that, and what has been pointed out to you repeatedly, is when you say I saw someone jumping from a window in my house, that gives me a reason to believe that he's trespassing. After all, had he been invited in he'd have used the door, you stupid, retarded fuck.

Travis McMichael witnessed only someone running down the street. Hell, in my neighborhood, people run down the street all the time. Some are white and some are black. Should I just take up station at an open bedroom window with a Remington M24 and take them out? After all... THEY'RE RUNNING!!!

Your entire premise in this discussion is that Arbury was guilty of his crime because he's black, and the McMichael twins cannot be guilty because they're white. Period.

Well, they're going to be found guilty, they're going to go to prison, and they're going to prison because the American legal system will work exactly as good, decent people expect it to...

Travis had met him in person and seen him on video doing illegal things thus he recognized him sprinting in a panic up the street as a known and wanted criminal

that's exactly how they caught Richard Ramirez you know... somebody recognized him, he panicked and ran and then they caught him

Nobody saw him commit a crime

they just recognized him from a photo and he panicked when confronted

You really need to learn the laws. Or read the lawyers explanation I posted. Visiting a construction site is not illegal in Georgia. In fact the same day Arbury was killed three others visited the same construction site.

Dude. Accept it. The law does not say what you think it should.

Call the local insurance company and ask them if it's okay if people "visit their construction site" in the middle of the night?

how come Larry English kept calling the police on this guy who was "visiting his construction site" if it was no big deal?

He installed a bunch of video cameras and was calling his neighbors to go catch the person who kept visiting his construction site becomes things kept disappearing

Remember kids if you get caught visiting someone's construction site don't flee like a criminal and then attack like a criminal and then people won't think you're a criminal