The Politics of the "Abortion" Word Games

Bristol Palin didn't. She was mature enough to accept responsibility for the consequences of her actions. We're getting to the real heart of the matter with you, it's all about being able to shuck responsibility and do as you damn well please regardless of human life. But that's why you are getting such blowback on this and it's not going to stop. Ever.

Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.

ROFLMNAO!

This from an advocate who claims a RIGHT to murder the most innocent and helpless of human life.

Yes, I am in favor of the taking of human life, where that life is a threat to the life of a helpless innocent.

I have news for you scum bag. Abortion is not murder, it is LEGAL. It is not a punishable offense.





However murder, bombings, threats and terrorism are illegal and punishable crimes. Many of them are convicted and go to prison.

You're replying to a murderer and a terrorist. As far as I'm concerned none of them should be accepted in a civilized society.

All they deserve is our contempt and scorn.
 
Naw, guy, when you say shit like 'don't have sex", everyone knows that you use your personality as birth control.

Yeah, Abstinence works. Just ask Bristol Palin.

Real world, people are fucking and having abortions when they get a little surprise on the EPT.

Bristol Palin didn't. She was mature enough to accept responsibility for the consequences of her actions. We're getting to the real heart of the matter with you, it's all about being able to shuck responsibility and do as you damn well please regardless of human life. But that's why you are getting such blowback on this and it's not going to stop. Ever.

Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.


Exactly they're all murderers. They support murderers and terrorists. So those who support the murders and terrorists are exactly what they support.

Anti freedom people use murder and terrorism to force women to give up their freedom and rights. Then the murderers walk away. When the child needs any help at all, the woman becomes a slut or whore and the child becomes a thug.

They show their true colors and intensions all over this board.

Give 'em a break...they don't really hate abortion, they are just altruistic and support women who pop out kids to increase their welfare check.
 
Bristol Palin didn't. She was mature enough to accept responsibility for the consequences of her actions. We're getting to the real heart of the matter with you, it's all about being able to shuck responsibility and do as you damn well please regardless of human life. But that's why you are getting such blowback on this and it's not going to stop. Ever.

Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.


Exactly they're all murderers. They support murderers and terrorists. So those who support the murders and terrorists are exactly what they support.

Anti freedom people use murder and terrorism to force women to give up their freedom and rights. Then the murderers walk away. When the child needs any help at all, the woman becomes a slut or whore and the child becomes a thug.

They show their true colors and intensions all over this board.

Give 'em a break...they don't really hate abortion, they are just altruistic and support women who pop out kids to increase their welfare check.

Imagine a world wherein pre-marital sex was discouraged and those found engaging in such was shunned... and as a result abortion was as rare as is possible in a free society.

Now... THAT twinge, which you experienced for an instant there... is how deep the infection of Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principles has decayed the American Culture.

Instead, we're on the cusp of defining marriage as the joining of two men, in effect crippling the US Culture and in effect, severing the US Culture from any sense of the principles that define America.

Pitiful... .
 
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Naw, guy, when you say shit like 'don't have sex", everyone knows that you use your personality as birth control.

Yeah, Abstinence works. Just ask Bristol Palin.

Real world, people are fucking and having abortions when they get a little surprise on the EPT.

Bristol Palin didn't. She was mature enough to accept responsibility for the consequences of her actions. We're getting to the real heart of the matter with you, it's all about being able to shuck responsibility and do as you damn well please regardless of human life. But that's why you are getting such blowback on this and it's not going to stop. Ever.

Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.


Exactly they're all murderers. They support murderers and terrorists. So those who support the murders and terrorists are exactly what they support.

Anti freedom people use murder and terrorism to force women to give up their freedom and rights. Then the murderers walk away. When the child needs any help at all, the woman becomes a slut or whore and the child becomes a thug.

They show their true colors and intensions all over this board.

Isn't it hysterical? The Left's equation always concludes that a woman MUST CONCEIVE A CHILD!

In other words a woman has NO MEANS TO AVOID CONCEPTION! Therefore Americans who demand that a woman can't murder her pre-born child are 'FORCING THAT POOR WOMAN TO GIVE BIRTH!'.

It's a lie... meaning that they dam' well know what they're saying is NOT TRUE, and they 're stating it as truth, despite their knowing that it is FALSE.

It is a FACT: A Woman has the RIGHT TO CHOOSE!

The choice however, is limited and only relevant to WHO, WHEN AND WHERE she allows a man to enter her body. At that point, she has MADE HER CHOICE and must bear the RESPONSIBILITY THAT SUSTAINS HER RIGHT TO CHOOSE! And that responsibility is to RAISE AND NURTURE THE CHILD SHE CONCEIVED!

There is absolutely NOTHING complex about it... and there is absolutely NOTHING EASY ABOUT IT. Except of course, for the women who choose poorly.
 
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Bristol Palin didn't. She was mature enough to accept responsibility for the consequences of her actions. We're getting to the real heart of the matter with you, it's all about being able to shuck responsibility and do as you damn well please regardless of human life. But that's why you are getting such blowback on this and it's not going to stop. Ever.

Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.


Exactly they're all murderers. They support murderers and terrorists. So those who support the murders and terrorists are exactly what they support.

Anti freedom people use murder and terrorism to force women to give up their freedom and rights. Then the murderers walk away. When the child needs any help at all, the woman becomes a slut or whore and the child becomes a thug.

They show their true colors and intensions all over this board.

Isn't it hysterical? The Left's equation always concludes that a woman MUST CONCEIVE A CHILD!

In other words a woman has NO MEANS TO AVOID CONCEPTION! Therefore Americans who demand that a woman can't murder her pre-born child are 'FORCING THAT POOR WOMAN TO GIVE BIRTH!'.

It's a lie... meaning that they dam' well know what they're saying is NOT TRUE, and they 're stating it as truth, despite their knowing that it is FALSE.

It is a FACT: A Woman has the RIGHT TO CHOOSE! The choice is relevant to WHO, WHEN AND WHERE she allows a man to enter her body... at that point, she has MADE HER CHOICE and must bear the RESPONSIBILITY THAT SUSTAINS HER RIGHT TO CHOOSE! And that responsibility is to RAISE AND NURTURE THE CHILD SHE CONCEIVED!

There is absolutely NOTHING complex about it... and there is absolutely NOTHING EASY ABOUT IT. Except of course, for the women who choose poorly.

The left has no problem holding MEN to the very same standard to which you have just prescribed that women should be held.
 
There are no "rights", guy.

Again... tells us a LOT about you. All through this thread you've dropped us hints as to why you are such an ignorant socialist tool. Not that anyone needed hints.

No it doesn't have to be either. Fetuses are not clumps of cells, period. There is no science that supports that, it is sheer ignorance. Fetuses are human beings in the fetal stage of development. There is no question about this, it is supported by science. The question of rights and choices and when they begin or end is a matter of opinion, so is the value of personhood or spirit.

I think you are getting it entirely wrong. At the end of the day, the person who decides whether it's a baby or medical waste is the woman it's inside. It's her choice. It's none of your business, and it's not the business of a church or a politician.

I'm sorry you are too ignorant to grasp this but science doesn't allow you to make decisions on what things are. Science confirms what things are through tests and observation and you can either accept or reject science. Here, you are choosing to reject science.

And I don't care if you think it's none of my business, I've made it my business because another human life is involved. If you don't like that, you are welcome to come to my house and try to shut me up, but you best bring more than your flapping ignorant pie hole. Same goes for churches and politicians... they have just as much right to speak on this issue as you and I. No one appointed you Czar of Debate, so get over yourself. You can either back up your arguments with something valid or your arguments will ultimately be defeated.

I don't get hung up about it because that's the way it will be no matter what the laws are.

I do worry what kind of hell the wealthy will inflict becuase they can get stupid people like you to vote against your own (and my) economic interests, but I'm not worried that you will ever stop a single abortion.

It's already established that you are the stupid one who rejects science. Your stupidity also explains your politics.
 
Imagine a world wherein pre-marital sex was discouraged and those found engaging in such was shunned... and as a result abortion was as rare as is possible in a free society.

Yeah. That never happened.

What happened was that when women couldn't force the guy into marriage, she got an abortion from "Someone who can take care of that sort of thing".

I'm sorry you are too ignorant to grasp this but science doesn't allow you to make decisions on what things are. Science confirms what things are through tests and observation and you can either accept or reject science. Here, you are choosing to reject science.

No, you are the one rejecting reality. I mean, you can shove pictures of medical waste in people's faces all day, but no one is going to fuck up their life for your religious stupidity.
 
The left has no problem holding MEN to the very same standard to which you have just prescribed that women should be held.

Do you?

Tell me about how you're holding men accountable for a woman's decision.

I'd LOVE to hear all about it.

(The reader is advised to check back here to enjoy this little exchange... if it responds or not, it loses.)
 
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No, you are the one rejecting reality. I mean, you can shove pictures of medical waste in people's faces all day, but no one is going to fuck up their life for your religious stupidity.

But science defines the differences between medical waste and living human organisms, it's not left up to people to decide. You're the one rejecting what science says a fetus is and insisting that people "decide" what things are based on their emotions. Only one viewpoint can be valid here and it's not yours.
 
The word abortion in not even in the bible.

What the bible does say - when God told Adam and Eve, no funny business or else, did they listen?

Moral - even the threat of the wrath of God won't stop people from screwing. It's human nature.

Just because you don't screw or like to screw -- well, that's you. Get over it. And stop trying to visit your miserable life on the rest of us.
 
The word abortion in not even in the bible.

What the bible does say - when God told Adam and Eve, no funny business or else, did they listen?

Moral - even the threat of the wrath of God won't stop people from screwing. It's human nature.

Just because you don't screw or like to screw -- well, that's you. Get over it. And stop trying to visit your miserable life on the rest of us.

And so it is revealed this is all about people being able to screw without consequences or responsibility. Women should simply be cum receptacles for men and when that results in human life we can ignore it and pretend it's a meaningless clump of cells. Sexual gratification trumps human life because we're too uncivilized to control those urges while it's relatively easy to live in denial.
 
No, you are the one rejecting reality. I mean, you can shove pictures of medical waste in people's faces all day, but no one is going to fuck up their life for your religious stupidity.

But science defines the differences between medical waste and living human organisms, it's not left up to people to decide. You're the one rejecting what science says a fetus is and insisting that people "decide" what things are based on their emotions. Only one viewpoint can be valid here and it's not yours.

Looks like Joe got destroyed again. Thank you sir for putting my feelings into words.
 
Bristol Palin didn't. She was mature enough to accept responsibility for the consequences of her actions. We're getting to the real heart of the matter with you, it's all about being able to shuck responsibility and do as you damn well please regardless of human life. But that's why you are getting such blowback on this and it's not going to stop. Ever.

Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.


Exactly they're all murderers. They support murderers and terrorists. So those who support the murders and terrorists are exactly what they support.

Anti freedom people use murder and terrorism to force women to give up their freedom and rights. Then the murderers walk away. When the child needs any help at all, the woman becomes a slut or whore and the child becomes a thug.

They show their true colors and intensions all over this board.

Give 'em a break...they don't really hate abortion, they are just altruistic and support women who pop out kids to increase their welfare check.

And when they have those children, it's the Democrats crying when Republicans try to take her welfare check, you know, because of those poor children. Do you really care for the children or are they simply pawns in your deadly game?

Sigh. Your hypocrisy and ignorance is utterly astounding.
 
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The left has no problem holding MEN to the very same standard to which you have just prescribed that women should be held.

Do you?

Tell me about how you're holding men accountable for a woman's decision.

I'd LOVE to hear all about it.

(The reader is advised to check back here to enjoy this little exchange... if it responds or not, it loses.)
I'm not sure you understand the point I was trying to make. But I will give it another try.

The proabortion crowd will tell the men that if they don't want to be responsible for a baby to keep your pants on. In contrast, it's okay for a woman to go and have the fetus sucked down a sink if she gets pregnant.

Do I hold men responsible. Well, I am prolife! Having said that, I have no power to hold anyone responsible when it comes to this issue,
 
The left has no problem holding MEN to the very same standard to which you have just prescribed that women should be held.

Do you?

Tell me about how you're holding men accountable for a woman's decision.

I'd LOVE to hear all about it.

(The reader is advised to check back here to enjoy this little exchange... if it responds or not, it loses.)
I'm not sure you understand the point I was trying to make. But I will give it another try.

The proabortion crowd will tell the men that if they don't want to be responsible for a baby to keep your pants on. In contrast, it's okay for a woman to go and have the fetus sucked down a sink if she gets pregnant.

Do I hold men responsible. Well, I am prolife! Having said that, I have no power to hold anyone responsible when it comes to this issue,

Ok... I follow you. The thing is, that women, by virtue of their natural circumstance bear the conseuqnces of conception. Do you follow me?

As the father of three children and Grandfather of three more... I am keenly aware of the burden of such. But I think you'd agree that had men been saddled with the burden of conception... the human species would have never gotten past man #1.

The point I was making is that the Left is against all standards and every sense of personal responsibility. And as a consequence of their influence, the deterioration of the culture is extensive.
 
The word abortion in not even in the bible.

What the bible does say - when God told Adam and Eve, no funny business or else, did they listen?

Moral - even the threat of the wrath of God won't stop people from screwing. It's human nature.

Just because you don't screw or like to screw -- well, that's you. Get over it. And stop trying to visit your miserable life on the rest of us.

Yeah... so your theory is that powerful and potentially destructive base instincts, such as those to which you're referring, should be set to willful abandon?

ROFLMNAO!

How cool is it that the Ideological Left is ALWAYS diametrically wrong about everything?
 
Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.


Exactly they're all murderers. They support murderers and terrorists. So those who support the murders and terrorists are exactly what they support.

Anti freedom people use murder and terrorism to force women to give up their freedom and rights. Then the murderers walk away. When the child needs any help at all, the woman becomes a slut or whore and the child becomes a thug.

They show their true colors and intensions all over this board.

Give 'em a break...they don't really hate abortion, they are just altruistic and support women who pop out kids to increase their welfare check.

Imagine a world wherein pre-marital sex was discouraged and those found engaging in such was shunned... and as a result abortion was as rare as is possible in a free society.

Now... THAT twinge, which you experienced for an instant there... is how deep the infection of Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principles has decayed the American Culture.

Instead, we're on the cusp of defining marriage as the joining of two men, in effect crippling the US Culture and in effect, severing the US Culture from any sense of the principles that define America.

Pitiful... .

A typical right wing fascist scum bag.

The Moral Majority is nothing NEW

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"If we are going to save America and evangelize the world, we cannot accommodate secular philosophies that are diametrically opposed to Christian truth ... We need to pull out all the stops to recruit and train 25 million Americans to become informed pro-moral activists whose voices can be heard in the halls of Congress."

"I am convinced that America can be turned around if we will all get serious about the Master's business. It may be late, but it is never too late to do what is right. We need an old-fashioned, God-honoring, Christ-exalting revival to turn American back to God. America can be saved!"

Jerry Falwell
"Moral Majority Report" for September, 1984





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"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality."

"Today Christians stand at the head of our country. I pledge that I will never tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity... We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit.... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past few years."

Adolf Hitler
The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872.
 
Blowback, a.k.a. "nuggets"


Anti-Choice Violence and Intimidation

A campaign of violence, vandalism, and intimidation is endangering providers and patients and curtailing the availability of abortion services. Since 1993, eight clinic workers – including four doctors, two clinic employees, a clinic escort, and a security guard – have been murdered in the United States. Seventeen attempted murders have also occurred since 1991. In fact, opponents of choice have directed more than 6,400 reported acts of violence against abortion providers since 1977, including bombings, arsons, death threats, kidnappings, and assaults, as well as more than 175,000 reported acts of disruption, including bomb threats and harassing calls.

There's no downside to disrupting pre-born infanticide.

So you support murder, bombings and intimidation of law abiding citizens.


Exactly they're all murderers. They support murderers and terrorists. So those who support the murders and terrorists are exactly what they support.

Anti freedom people use murder and terrorism to force women to give up their freedom and rights. Then the murderers walk away. When the child needs any help at all, the woman becomes a slut or whore and the child becomes a thug.

They show their true colors and intensions all over this board.

Give 'em a break...they don't really hate abortion, they are just altruistic and support women who pop out kids to increase their welfare check.

And when they have those children, it's the Democrats crying when Republicans try to take her welfare check, you know, because of those poor children. Do you really care for the children or are they simply pawns in your deadly game?

Sigh. Your hypocrisy and ignorance is utterly astounding.

No hypocrisy at all from me or other liberals. Yes, we do care about those children. And unlike you right wing scum who are so small that you are envious of people getting anything you don't get, we really do care about the crawling and walking. And we are particularly concerned about members of our society who are least able to take care of themselves...the very young, and the very old. Human beings that are at a stage of life where their circumstances and station in life, NOT their motivation dictates their situation.


"There is no reason why, in a society which has reached the general level of wealth ours has, (the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance) should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food, shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom
 

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