The Poverty Excuse

[initforme]

Sure as this american citizen who flies the swedish flag on his flagpole, this is insane.

 

[pknopp]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

.....you just proved you are babbling---if they steal, they get the same treatment....you always have some that don't get put in jail--just like you get some poor people that are not charged/convicted/etc

Who else doesn't go to prison for stealing hundreds of thousands from others?

 

[BluesLegend]

It's not really a crime because the left ignore the law.

 

[harmonica]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

.....you just proved you are babbling---if they steal, they get the same treatment....you always have some that don't get put in jail--just like you get some poor people that are not charged/convicted/etc

Who else doesn't go to prison for stealing hundreds of thousands from others?

admit it--you fked up

 

[pknopp]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

 

[harmonica]

It's not really a crime because the left ignore the law.

.....for some reason, they LOVE criminals ---they burn/loot/vandalize FOR jackass criminals - that resist arrest and attack cops!!!!!!

 

[harmonica]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

 

[BluesLegend]

It's not really a crime because the left ignore the law.

.....for some reason, they LOVE criminals ---they burn/loot/vandalize FOR jackass criminals - that resist arrest and attack cops!!!!!!

They do those things to deflect WHILE at the same time they arrest, convict, and imprison millions of young male minorities.

 

[pknopp]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

 

[harmonica]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

 

[pknopp]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

 

[harmonica]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

.....we KNOW--we know--you want guilty before innocent--guilty with no proof of guilt--very American

 

[pknopp]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

.....we KNOW--we know--you want guilty before innocent--guilty with no proof of guilt--very American

Trump was found guilty,

 

[harmonica]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

.....we KNOW--we know--you want guilty before innocent--guilty with no proof of guilt--very American

Trump was found guilty,

only in your mind

 

[justinacolmena]

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

The charging documents go on your rap sheet (arrest record) and your rights are revoked forever even without a conviction. Every potential employer can pull up that sleazebag pawnshop gun dealer fingerprint background check shite up instantly.

FBI NICS E-Check System - Welcome Page

www.nicsezcheckfbi.gov

And they avoid civil liability by refusing to hire gun owners.

 

[pknopp]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

.....we KNOW--we know--you want guilty before innocent--guilty with no proof of guilt--very American

Trump was found guilty,

only in your mind

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'

 

[harmonica]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

.....we KNOW--we know--you want guilty before innocent--guilty with no proof of guilt--very American

Trump was found guilty,

only in your mind

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'

key word SETTLEMENT = not guilty of a crime

 

[harmonica]

During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.

Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY

The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.

www.history.com

Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?

Criminal activity has long been legal for the rich. Did Trump go to prison for his theft?

What a useless deflection.

The reason for a criminal justice system is to take justice from the victims of a crime, and let the State handle it. If the State decides to relinquish that job, then it goes back to the people.

So the people should have resorting to stringing Trump up?

Talk about not wanting to debate the actual topic at hand.

I stated exactly what I think. I'm absolutely OK with it. We are not supposed to have a two tiered justice system.

I believe that all should be treated equally, however that has to be done.

Until it's your shit being stolen.

So how are businesses supposed to handle the deluge of shoplifters that will occur if said shoplifters know they can claim poverty?

I suppose what they do is support a justice system that treats everyone equally.

Idiot has an idiotic position. Not surprised.

You believe that a fair justice system is stupid. That is the problem.

You are blathering about a "fair" justice system, what is fair about letting people take a pass because they claim they are poor?

We allow the rich a pass. Why should someone go to jail for stealing to feed themselves but not for ripping people off of hundreds of thousands of dollars?

That isn't about justice, it's about excuses. Ask Bernie Madoff if he got a pass.

He made the mistake of stealing from rich people. If they had been regular run of the mill investors he would have got a settlement.

......that doesn't make sense--the run of the mill people didn't have that much $$$/or invested
hahahhahahaha
another fk up by you

Goldman Sachs ripped off a ton of people on the run up to the 2008 crash. Nothing happened. Well, not true. They were gave billions more.

Timmy Geithner said many bankers ran afoul of the law but it would be bad for the economy to actually pursue charges. No one was held accountable. I'm suppose to care about someone stealing a sandwich?

......but you have no PROOF they stole $$$$$$--there were no convictions/etc--

Convenient eh? SInce there will be no convictions here either, no harm done.

.....we KNOW--we know--you want guilty before innocent--guilty with no proof of guilt--very American

Trump was found guilty,

only in your mind

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'

key word SETTLEMENT = not guilty of a crime

you fkd up a THIRD time

 

[Agit8r]

It is much the same logic as the notion that companies can "accidently" kill their employees through negligence without being held criminally liable, because the common good of the economy demands such a blood sacrifice. Except with a more populist twist.

 

[danielpalos]

Up for debate is a reform proposed by Seattle City Councilmember Lisa Herbold. For up to 100 different misdemeanor crimes, including theft, harassment, shoplifting, trespassing, and more, an individual could be excused if he or she claims poverty was their motive.

“In a situation where you took that sandwich because you were hungry and you were trying to meet your basic need of satisfying your hunger; we as the community will know that we should not punish that,” King County Director of Public Defense Anita Khandelwal said of the proposal, which she helped craft. “That conduct is excused.”

The intent of the proposal is to avoid punishing desperate people just trying to survive. But the provision exempts not only stealing food or similar necessities, but stealing anything—if you claim the money gained from its sale would be used for essentials.

First and foremost, this policy would obviously incentivize more crime and more theft.

Why Seattle’s Proposed ‘Poverty Excuse’ for Crimes Would Destroy the City’s Economy

“I think it’s insane,” one victimized barber told a local news outlet. He's not wrong.

fee.org

Words fail to adequately describe the idiocy behind such proposals. If you want something, steal it and if you get caught plead poverty and cry me a river. This is basically anarchy, who could operate a business under such rules? Somebody breaks into your business and steals you blind and nothing happens. Or they burn the place down citing BLM. If you were an insurance company, would you insure a business in Seattle under such laws? Geez, such a beautiful place that is on the fast track to being a shithole city.

The Poor should be asking for equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States.