The Problem with Socialism

[Fenton Lum]

Of course, and capitalism as we all know is by definition bereft of any and all corruption. Sheesh pard.

Socialism is deadly to any sort of prosperity, except the greedy kind.

God I'm glad we're safe frome greed here.

All the flaws in the American system are do to socialism, exclusively...

But of course. This is like arguing over religion for some of you. You are simply belivers, so you don't need to think.

I've lived under a socialist society, have you?

Lived and worked in Europe, yeah. Blended socialist/capitalist society like america is.

 

[boedicca]

Lucy? Are you there?

Lucy? Are you there?

Ok, well, anyway, like I was saying before you joined in:

I’m referring more to the cannibalization of American society at large. Until we evolve away from what some (perhaps you?) advocate we will continue to borrow to maintain a level of empire and consumption this society can no longer afford, wages will continue to fall for the workers the “job creators” exploit, poverty will continue to spread, permanent war of empire will continue unabated, privatized prison system mass incarceration will continue and spread in our post industrial society, human beings will continue to be commoditized regardless of “which” political party wins, and the public will continue to get 90% of what they see and hear (and believe in when it comes to people like you) from a half dozen corporations spewing a false perceptual reality while judicial fiat continues to be leveraged to strip citizens of basic constitutional rights. The system will do to us whatever we allow and all we would have to do is stop participating and cooperating.

The more the unsubstantial people get squeezed, the more they have to focus on getting by the daily grind. The republican party went batshit crazy over my lifetime and the democratic party morphed into the republican party I grew up with and a lot of that happened in my opinion during the previous Clinton's administration. All the democratic party has to do isactas if they're a bit "left" of the republican party, which brings us back to the lesser of the two evils, and that's for the most part on social issues. It's all pretty bipartisan when it comes to corporate societal wealth extraction.

On Bill Clinton' watch; the FCC was deregulated, mass incarceration shot way up and Hilary made some snide reference to black kids caught up in the system as super predators, various global trade agreements, and the welfare reform biz at a time when 70% of the recipients were children.

Over half of all discretionary spending goes to the military and we continue to be the biggest military arms dealers on the planet. Often they get turned back on us, but hey, it's good for business. We can't even really figure out exactly what we spend on empire, a lot of it gets hidden.

If one looks at the rest of the developed industrial countries on the planet, the vast majority of them invest back into society regarding healthcare and education. All this talk of being globally competitive, requires an educated population. Expanding public education for the masses to include a college education keeps us competitive - it's an investment in society. Instead we've turned it into a for profit industry and turn kids whose parents can't pay for college into debt peons.

And how exactly does leaving worker healthcare on the backs of American employers (for however much longer that lasts, they're wiggling more and more out of that) make those employers competitive with employers in nations with single payer healthcare programs that have better healthcare outcomes at less cost?

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

I'd love to hear your thoughts, I don't think we have a healthy society, and I don't see an inflection point in this 5-6 decadeish long trajectory. Further more from a political system point of view, I don't think "either" side has any intention of doing anything about it - which is to say, this shit works for them. There will not be a top down resolution, it's on us, all of us. The "leftist" vs "rightist" bullshit is just that, bullshit, right where they system wants us all. Unaware of the bigger picture, reacting emotionally from institutional imprinting, and totally unable to coherently recognized who is friend (common interests) and foe (benefitting from the cannibalization of american society).

So chock-full-o misinformation, it's difficult to know where to start.

I will address the "infant mortality" rating. The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. We go to heroic rates to save premature babies that are allowed to die and not counted as infant deaths elsewhere. So, that statistic is a lie.

And the National Health Service in England is hardly an investment, unless you consider killing off old and sick people a societal benefit (which you likely do).

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

Please do go on. I said WHO numbers, yeah? So your point is we're really at 38th in infant mortality as opposed to 39th?

The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. So, that statistic is a lie.

I'd like to learn more, where can I dig into this? A study perhaps that will flesh this out more? Not really interested in a media interpretation, thanks.

Here you go. And learn how to use a search engine.

Postgraduate Research Training in Reproductive Health - Fudan University, Shanghai - What is the definition of live birth?

So China is the rest of the world and we're 38th instead of 39th in infant mortality for the most expensive helathcare system on the planet? And you want to cite communist society research? That's the deal?

Condolences on your lack of reading comprehension.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Lucy? Are you there?

Ok, well, anyway, like I was saying before you joined in:

I’m referring more to the cannibalization of American society at large. Until we evolve away from what some (perhaps you?) advocate we will continue to borrow to maintain a level of empire and consumption this society can no longer afford, wages will continue to fall for the workers the “job creators” exploit, poverty will continue to spread, permanent war of empire will continue unabated, privatized prison system mass incarceration will continue and spread in our post industrial society, human beings will continue to be commoditized regardless of “which” political party wins, and the public will continue to get 90% of what they see and hear (and believe in when it comes to people like you) from a half dozen corporations spewing a false perceptual reality while judicial fiat continues to be leveraged to strip citizens of basic constitutional rights. The system will do to us whatever we allow and all we would have to do is stop participating and cooperating.

The more the unsubstantial people get squeezed, the more they have to focus on getting by the daily grind. The republican party went batshit crazy over my lifetime and the democratic party morphed into the republican party I grew up with and a lot of that happened in my opinion during the previous Clinton's administration. All the democratic party has to do isactas if they're a bit "left" of the republican party, which brings us back to the lesser of the two evils, and that's for the most part on social issues. It's all pretty bipartisan when it comes to corporate societal wealth extraction.

On Bill Clinton' watch; the FCC was deregulated, mass incarceration shot way up and Hilary made some snide reference to black kids caught up in the system as super predators, various global trade agreements, and the welfare reform biz at a time when 70% of the recipients were children.

Over half of all discretionary spending goes to the military and we continue to be the biggest military arms dealers on the planet. Often they get turned back on us, but hey, it's good for business. We can't even really figure out exactly what we spend on empire, a lot of it gets hidden.

If one looks at the rest of the developed industrial countries on the planet, the vast majority of them invest back into society regarding healthcare and education. All this talk of being globally competitive, requires an educated population. Expanding public education for the masses to include a college education keeps us competitive - it's an investment in society. Instead we've turned it into a for profit industry and turn kids whose parents can't pay for college into debt peons.

And how exactly does leaving worker healthcare on the backs of American employers (for however much longer that lasts, they're wiggling more and more out of that) make those employers competitive with employers in nations with single payer healthcare programs that have better healthcare outcomes at less cost?

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

I'd love to hear your thoughts, I don't think we have a healthy society, and I don't see an inflection point in this 5-6 decadeish long trajectory. Further more from a political system point of view, I don't think "either" side has any intention of doing anything about it - which is to say, this shit works for them. There will not be a top down resolution, it's on us, all of us. The "leftist" vs "rightist" bullshit is just that, bullshit, right where they system wants us all. Unaware of the bigger picture, reacting emotionally from institutional imprinting, and totally unable to coherently recognized who is friend (common interests) and foe (benefitting from the cannibalization of american society).

So chock-full-o misinformation, it's difficult to know where to start.

I will address the "infant mortality" rating. The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. We go to heroic rates to save premature babies that are allowed to die and not counted as infant deaths elsewhere. So, that statistic is a lie.

And the National Health Service in England is hardly an investment, unless you consider killing off old and sick people a societal benefit (which you likely do).

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

Please do go on. I said WHO numbers, yeah? So your point is we're really at 38th in infant mortality as opposed to 39th?

The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. So, that statistic is a lie.

I'd like to learn more, where can I dig into this? A study perhaps that will flesh this out more? Not really interested in a media interpretation, thanks.

Here you go. And learn how to use a search engine.

Postgraduate Research Training in Reproductive Health - Fudan University, Shanghai - What is the definition of live birth?

So China is the rest of the world and we're 38th instead of 39th in infant mortality for the most expensive helathcare system on the planet? And you want to cite communist society research? That's the deal?

Condolences on your lack of reading comprehension.

Pffffft, yeah, that's what I thought.

 

[bripat9643]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

No matter what "problems" capitalism has, socialism is worse. Check out how socialism is working out for the people of Venezuela:

U.S. intelligence officials fear Venezuelan coup, government crackdown - Hot Air

Venezuelan Socialism: Two-Day Workweeks, No Supplies, And A Government So Broke It Can’t Pay For Its Own Currency

Biography of a Bernie Sanders Failed State

Venezuela opposition slams 'desperate' Maduro state of emergency

U.S. intelligence warns of Venezuela collapse

EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out

Venezuela: Countless Wounded after 5,000 Loot Supermarket

Kelly McParland: How socialism turned oil-rich Venezuela into a basket case

 

[Fenton Lum]

Lucy? Are you there?

Ok, well, anyway, like I was saying before you joined in:

I’m referring more to the cannibalization of American society at large. Until we evolve away from what some (perhaps you?) advocate we will continue to borrow to maintain a level of empire and consumption this society can no longer afford, wages will continue to fall for the workers the “job creators” exploit, poverty will continue to spread, permanent war of empire will continue unabated, privatized prison system mass incarceration will continue and spread in our post industrial society, human beings will continue to be commoditized regardless of “which” political party wins, and the public will continue to get 90% of what they see and hear (and believe in when it comes to people like you) from a half dozen corporations spewing a false perceptual reality while judicial fiat continues to be leveraged to strip citizens of basic constitutional rights. The system will do to us whatever we allow and all we would have to do is stop participating and cooperating.

The more the unsubstantial people get squeezed, the more they have to focus on getting by the daily grind. The republican party went batshit crazy over my lifetime and the democratic party morphed into the republican party I grew up with and a lot of that happened in my opinion during the previous Clinton's administration. All the democratic party has to do isactas if they're a bit "left" of the republican party, which brings us back to the lesser of the two evils, and that's for the most part on social issues. It's all pretty bipartisan when it comes to corporate societal wealth extraction.

On Bill Clinton' watch; the FCC was deregulated, mass incarceration shot way up and Hilary made some snide reference to black kids caught up in the system as super predators, various global trade agreements, and the welfare reform biz at a time when 70% of the recipients were children.

Over half of all discretionary spending goes to the military and we continue to be the biggest military arms dealers on the planet. Often they get turned back on us, but hey, it's good for business. We can't even really figure out exactly what we spend on empire, a lot of it gets hidden.

If one looks at the rest of the developed industrial countries on the planet, the vast majority of them invest back into society regarding healthcare and education. All this talk of being globally competitive, requires an educated population. Expanding public education for the masses to include a college education keeps us competitive - it's an investment in society. Instead we've turned it into a for profit industry and turn kids whose parents can't pay for college into debt peons.

And how exactly does leaving worker healthcare on the backs of American employers (for however much longer that lasts, they're wiggling more and more out of that) make those employers competitive with employers in nations with single payer healthcare programs that have better healthcare outcomes at less cost?

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

I'd love to hear your thoughts, I don't think we have a healthy society, and I don't see an inflection point in this 5-6 decadeish long trajectory. Further more from a political system point of view, I don't think "either" side has any intention of doing anything about it - which is to say, this shit works for them. There will not be a top down resolution, it's on us, all of us. The "leftist" vs "rightist" bullshit is just that, bullshit, right where they system wants us all. Unaware of the bigger picture, reacting emotionally from institutional imprinting, and totally unable to coherently recognized who is friend (common interests) and foe (benefitting from the cannibalization of american society).

So chock-full-o misinformation, it's difficult to know where to start.

I will address the "infant mortality" rating. The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. We go to heroic rates to save premature babies that are allowed to die and not counted as infant deaths elsewhere. So, that statistic is a lie.

And the National Health Service in England is hardly an investment, unless you consider killing off old and sick people a societal benefit (which you likely do).

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

Please do go on. I said WHO numbers, yeah? So your point is we're really at 38th in infant mortality as opposed to 39th?

The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. So, that statistic is a lie.

I'd like to learn more, where can I dig into this? A study perhaps that will flesh this out more? Not really interested in a media interpretation, thanks.

Here you go. And learn how to use a search engine.

Postgraduate Research Training in Reproductive Health - Fudan University, Shanghai - What is the definition of live birth?

So China is the rest of the world and we're 38th instead of 39th in infant mortality for the most expensive helathcare system on the planet? And you want to cite communist society research? That's the deal?

Condolences on your lack of reading comprehension.

I cited WHO numbers, right? WHO has it's own definition and applies that to their studies?

 

[bripat9643]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does knows it has problems.

The only problems capitalism has are the ones created by socialists interfering with it.

 

[Fenton Lum]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

No matter what "problems" capitalism has, socialism is worse. Check out how socialism is working out for the people of Venezuela:

U.S. intelligence officials fear Venezuelan coup, government crackdown - Hot Air

Venezuelan Socialism: Two-Day Workweeks, No Supplies, And A Government So Broke It Can’t Pay For Its Own Currency

Biography of a Bernie Sanders Failed State

Venezuela opposition slams 'desperate' Maduro state of emergency

U.S. intelligence warns of Venezuela collapse

EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out

Venezuela: Countless Wounded after 5,000 Loot Supermarket

Kelly McParland: How socialism turned oil-rich Venezuela into a basket case

They tell their societies the same thing about capitalism. Truth is, advanced industrial and post industrial nations employ aspects of both economic philosophies. Yours included.

 

[boedicca]

So chock-full-o misinformation, it's difficult to know where to start.

I will address the "infant mortality" rating. The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. We go to heroic rates to save premature babies that are allowed to die and not counted as infant deaths elsewhere. So, that statistic is a lie.

And the National Health Service in England is hardly an investment, unless you consider killing off old and sick people a societal benefit (which you likely do).

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

Please do go on. I said WHO numbers, yeah? So your point is we're really at 38th in infant mortality as opposed to 39th?

The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. So, that statistic is a lie.

I'd like to learn more, where can I dig into this? A study perhaps that will flesh this out more? Not really interested in a media interpretation, thanks.

Here you go. And learn how to use a search engine.

Postgraduate Research Training in Reproductive Health - Fudan University, Shanghai - What is the definition of live birth?

So China is the rest of the world and we're 38th instead of 39th in infant mortality for the most expensive helathcare system on the planet? And you want to cite communist society research? That's the deal?

Condolences on your lack of reading comprehension.

I cited WHO numbers, right? WHO has it's own definition and applies that to their studies?

The WHO doesn't conduct a global statistically significant study, bub. It gathers up data reported by countries using different methodologies.

 

[bripat9643]

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

Actually you're working very hard to avoid it.

The only problem with socialism as it applies to the american economic system is that we don't want those little people to get the idea that they should get in on it too.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profits versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez faire capitalism for the masses

This is the current american paradigm.

That isn't capitalism. It's the system socialists have created.

 

[Fenton Lum]

For the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, also the system in which costs are climbing most aggressively on the planet, we enjoy these WHO ratings; 39th in infant mortality, 43rd in adult female mortality, 42nd in adult male mortality, 46th in life expectancy.

Please do go on. I said WHO numbers, yeah? So your point is we're really at 38th in infant mortality as opposed to 39th?

The U.S. definition of an infant is at a lower number of weeks than other part of the world. So, that statistic is a lie.

I'd like to learn more, where can I dig into this? A study perhaps that will flesh this out more? Not really interested in a media interpretation, thanks.

Here you go. And learn how to use a search engine.

Postgraduate Research Training in Reproductive Health - Fudan University, Shanghai - What is the definition of live birth?

So China is the rest of the world and we're 38th instead of 39th in infant mortality for the most expensive helathcare system on the planet? And you want to cite communist society research? That's the deal?

Condolences on your lack of reading comprehension.

I cited WHO numbers, right? WHO has it's own definition and applies that to their studies?

The WHO doesn't conduct a global statistically significant study, bub. It gathers up data reported by countries using different methodologies.

So you would then put the US not 39th, but where correcting for that?

 

[bripat9643]

This book should be required reading in the p-schools, but we all know it won't.

From the author of 'The Real Lincoln'...one of the greatest history books ever written. It should also be required reading for all Americans, but we all know it won't.

Remember when "socialism" was a dirty word? Now students at America's elite universities are parroting socialist talking points and "sure-thing" Hillary Clinton is struggling to win the Democratic nomination against a 74-year-old avowed socialist who promises to make the nation more like Europe. What's happened? Do Americans need a reminder about the dangers of socialist ideology and practices?

Thomas DiLorenzo, economics professor and senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, deconstructs the retrograde ideology that has suddenly become disturbingly hip in The Problem with Socialism.

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

No matter what "problems" capitalism has, socialism is worse. Check out how socialism is working out for the people of Venezuela:

U.S. intelligence officials fear Venezuelan coup, government crackdown - Hot Air

Venezuelan Socialism: Two-Day Workweeks, No Supplies, And A Government So Broke It Can’t Pay For Its Own Currency

Biography of a Bernie Sanders Failed State

Venezuela opposition slams 'desperate' Maduro state of emergency

U.S. intelligence warns of Venezuela collapse

EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out

Venezuela: Countless Wounded after 5,000 Loot Supermarket

Kelly McParland: How socialism turned oil-rich Venezuela into a basket case

They tell their societies the same thing about capitalism. Truth is, advanced industrial and post industrial nations employ aspects of both economic philosophies. Yours included.

Ask Venezuelans where they would rather live. What difference does it make what a bunch of lying socialist politicians claim?

The fact that our system is contaminated with socialism proves absolutely nothing about the benefits of socialism. If anything, it shows why socialism should be avoided at all costs.

 

[Fenton Lum]

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

Actually you're working very hard to avoid it.

The only problem with socialism as it applies to the american economic system is that we don't want those little people to get the idea that they should get in on it too.

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profits versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez faire capitalism for the masses

This is the current american paradigm.

That isn't capitalism. It's the system socialists have created.

Utter horse shit on the face of it, isn't socialism taking from the rich?

Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
Internalized profits versus externalized risk and expense for the “job creator” class
Socialism for the aristocracy versus laissez faire capitalism for the masses

Opposite direction pard. Who did that again?

 

[bripat9643]

I've been one for 30 plus years owning my own business. What I do know is a dumb fuck loser when I run across one.

What you know isn't capitalism. Anyone who does doesn't think it doesn't have problems.

Right, I need some dimwit on the internet to bring me up to speed. I'll stick with reality.

You need to learn capitalism, good and bad.

You need to quit being an idiot. Public ed has brainwashed the kids these days into thinking capitalism is something evil so you can live your puny lives and leech off of others.

What they are taught is that those who believe capitalism is the answer to everything, don't know capitalism at all.

No one says capitalism to everything. However, left wingers do claim socialism is the answer to everything.

 

[easyt65]

The problem with Socialism is the self-appointed rulers always run out of other people's money...

 

[Fenton Lum]

Make sure you read the other important work, The Problem with Capitalism.

Like what? That you are expected to get off your ass and make your own way? Your problem isn't the achievers' problem. We like capitalism.

If you don't know the problems of capitalism, then you don't know capitalism.

No matter what "problems" capitalism has, socialism is worse. Check out how socialism is working out for the people of Venezuela:

U.S. intelligence officials fear Venezuelan coup, government crackdown - Hot Air

Venezuelan Socialism: Two-Day Workweeks, No Supplies, And A Government So Broke It Can’t Pay For Its Own Currency

Biography of a Bernie Sanders Failed State

Venezuela opposition slams 'desperate' Maduro state of emergency

U.S. intelligence warns of Venezuela collapse

EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out

Venezuela: Countless Wounded after 5,000 Loot Supermarket

Kelly McParland: How socialism turned oil-rich Venezuela into a basket case

They tell their societies the same thing about capitalism. Truth is, advanced industrial and post industrial nations employ aspects of both economic philosophies. Yours included.

Ask Venezuelans where they would rather live. What difference does it make what a bunch of lying socialist politicians claim?

The fact that our system is contaminated with socialism proves absolutely nothing about the benefits of socialism. If anything, it shows why socialism should be avoided at all costs.

You're running away and starting another point now.

 

[Fenton Lum]

The problem with Socialism is the self-appointed rulers always run out of other people's money...

Which is why we bailed out Wall Street?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The problem with Socialism is the self-appointed rulers always run out of other people's money...

That and millions die from it

 

[bripat9643]

The problem is when socialism or capitalism gets to its extremes. Socialism as been around for about 10,000 years and it is simply the working together of society. Of course, you probably hate your police officer down the road or tax payer paved streets.

Capitalism also has a nasty history...So we abolish and do away with it?

No, capitalism has a great history - one of constant improvement in the standard of living. Socialism has a record of 200 million dead.

 

[boedicca]

Here you go. And learn how to use a search engine.

Postgraduate Research Training in Reproductive Health - Fudan University, Shanghai - What is the definition of live birth?

So China is the rest of the world and we're 38th instead of 39th in infant mortality for the most expensive helathcare system on the planet? And you want to cite communist society research? That's the deal?

Condolences on your lack of reading comprehension.

I cited WHO numbers, right? WHO has it's own definition and applies that to their studies?

The WHO doesn't conduct a global statistically significant study, bub. It gathers up data reported by countries using different methodologies.

So you would then put the US not 39th, but where correcting for that?

I have no idea as the global data is not consistently and reliably collected. It certainly isn't a low as 39 the politically motivated WHO claims.

 

[bripat9643]

Capitalism has a long history of treating the poor like shit, promoting slavery and fucking up the environment. Two can play at this game.

That's total bullshit.