The Propaganda Trash that Forum Outcasts wanted you to swallow . Which many of you did.

[Grau]

You need to ask your imbecile ilk and yourself - that refers and brings up such issues, due to not being able to conduct a civilized discussion, nor to support their drivel with any facts, nor being able to present any meaningful arguments.

I have never seen anything written by Netanyahu's gaggle of Zionist shills other than vulgar insults and scripts from their Hasbara Handbook

There is no excuse for Zionist genocide.

Thanks,



(1). "The Israel Project's secret hasbara handbook exposed"

The Israel Project's secret hasbara handbook exposed

EXCERPT "The first thing we learn is that this passage, as with everything else printed in the handbook, is empty meaningless drivel. It's a perfect example of political three-card monty in which there appears to be a card which isn't there at all. It's all a sham. There is no substance. The rhetoric here is even worse than that offered by spokespeople like Mark Regev on behalf of the Israeli government." CONTINUED


(2). "The art of deception: How Israel uses ‘hasbara’ to whitewash its crimes"

"The Israelis have long relied on a public diplomacy strategy to dominate the arena of narrative control and information manipulation."

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/the-art-of-deception-how-israel-uses-hasbara-to-whitewash-its-crimes-46775

EXCERPT "As Israel conducts its latest round of aggression against the Palestinians, the prevailing narrative often peddled in mainstream western media outlets continues to be implicitly framed to favour the Israeli narrative.

Probably the most common tactic has been to link any criticism of Israeli policies, whether its human rights violations or illegal colonisation of Palestinian land, to anti-Semitism." CONTINUED

 

[surada]

So? You just blabbered meaningless gibberish. Again, the Ottomans invited the Jews, not Arabs, not Palestinians which did not exist nor did they make mention of, to come back and resettle in what the Ottomans themselves as Muslims themselves believed to be ancient and ancestral holy land of the Jews.

As far as your bullshit about Zionists etc., no empire, not the Ottomans, not the Persians, not the Romans, not the Greeks, gave up land they had conquered to any of the people the land belonged to. So the Jews were no exception.

They left Palestine thousands of years ago.

 

[Grau]

Israle is neither a failed country nor a dictatorship.

Are you kidding?

Israel is a theocratic Welfare State that can't support itself without America's $ Trillions(1) and Holocaust extortion scams (2), (3).




(1). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html

By Thomas R. Stauffer

EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED



(2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(3). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million

For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The objective is to kill them all.

All of them? Then why have so few been killed?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They left Palestine thousands of years ago.

They're back now.

 

[Hector12]

Are you kidding?

Israel is a theocratic Welfare State that can't support itself without America's $ Trillions(1) and Holocaust extortion scams (2), (3).




(1). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html

By Thomas R. Stauffer

EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED



(2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(3). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million

For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

As long as there are plenty of Americans like me Israel will continue to receive foreign aid from the United States.

 

[Hector12]

I've been able to support every fact I've stated.

Why are you in America except to shill for a treacherous and parasitic foreign government and extract more blood and money from loyal Americans?

Your sources are not credible.

The Israelis fight their own wars. All they need are our financial and military support. Fortunately, they are getting plenty of both.

Jews belong in Israel. Palestinians belong in the middle of the Arabian desert.

The governments of Egypt and Jordan have said that Palestinians are not welcome in their countries. That is because they know what Palestinians are like.

 

[Hector12]

They're back now.

Jews are back where they belong. Palestinians are squatters who blew in with the desert wind. They should be blown out again.

The Palestinians are a vanquished people They have no past to take pride in and they deserve no future. The Jews deserve the best of everything.

 

[Grau]

Your sources are not credible.

The Israelis fight their own wars. All they need are our financial and military support. Fortunately, they are getting plenty of both.

Jews belong in Israel. Palestinians belong in the middle of the Arabian desert.

The governments of Egypt and Jordan have said that Palestinians are not welcome in their countries. That is because they know what Palestinians are like.

There's nothing wrong with the sources I cite.
You just don't like the facts the illuminate about Zionist - Nazi complicity and Levantine realities.

Re:.....The governments of Egypt and Jordan have said that Palestinians are not welcome in their countries. That is because they know what Palestinians are like.

The Jews have been thrown out of over 100 countries.
Is that because "they know what Jews are like"?

There's no doubt that Netanyahu and his henchmen are committing raw genocide (1) in murdering far more civilians than resistance fighters.

Even Israeli media acknowledges the murderous excesses of the US funded IDF.(2)

My original question had to do with loyalty. One cannot be loyal to two countries any more than one cannot be loyal to 2 spouses and Israel has repeatedly proven to be America's most treacherous and parasitic "ally".
Since it has long been severely detrimental to US interests to aid and abet Zionist genocide and expansionism, it is a betrayal of America and the young American G.I.s who do, indeed, die to preserve Israeli regional hegemony.(3), (4)

What do you think US troops are doing in the Middle East right now except dying for Israel and inciting even more anti American sentiment around the world?


“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)


(1). "A Textbook Case of Genocide"

A Textbook Case of Genocide

Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

jewishcurrents.org

"Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?"

EXCERPT "The UN Genocide Convention lists five acts that fall under its definition. Israel is currently perpetrating three of these in Gaza: “1. Killing members of the group. 2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. 3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.” The Israeli Air Force, by its own account, has so far dropped more than 6,000 bombs on Gaza, which is one of the most densely populated areas in the world—almost as many bombs as the US dropped on all of Afghanistan during record-breaking years of its war there." CONTINUED



(2). "The Israel Massacre Forces"
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israel-massacre-forces-1.5962852

EXCERPT "The shooting on the Gaza border shows once again that the killing of Palestinians is accepted in Israel more lightly than the killing of mosquitoes"CONTINUED


(3). “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003



(4). "Top Pentagon adviser says ‘Israeli lobby’ funds officials who want war"

"Douglas Macgregor blamed pro-Israel policy for driving the United States into the Iraq conflict after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,"

Top Pentagon adviser says ‘Israeli lobby’ funds officials who want war

Douglas Macgregor blamed pro-Israel policy for driving the United States into the Iraq conflict after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "Douglas Macgregor, a top adviser to President Donald Trump’s new acting defense secretary, routinely blames “the Israeli lobby” and “neocons” for pushing the United States into wars.

CNN’s KFile uncovered interviews in which Macgregor, a decorated combat veteran who appears frequently on Fox News and other conservative media, says “pro-Israel” donors and the pro-Israel lobby are behind efforts to drive the United States into war." CONTINUED

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There's nothing wrong with the sources I cite.
You just don't like the facts the illuminate about Zionist - Nazi complicity and Levantine realities.



The Jews have been thrown out of over 100 countries.
Is that because "they know what Jews are like"?

There's no doubt that Netanyahu and his henchmen are committing raw genocide (1) in murdering far more civilians than resistance fighters.

Even Israeli media acknowledges the murderous excesses of the US funded IDF.(2)

My original question had to do with loyalty. One cannot be loyal to two countries any more than one cannot be loyal to 2 spouses and Israel has repeatedly proven to be America's most treacherous and parasitic "ally".
Since it has long been severely detrimental to US interests to aid and abet Zionist genocide and expansionism, it is a betrayal of America and the young American G.I.s who do, indeed, die to preserve Israeli regional hegemony.(3), (4)

What do you think US troops are doing in the Middle East right now except dying for Israel and inciting even more anti American sentiment around the world?


“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)


(1). "A Textbook Case of Genocide"

A Textbook Case of Genocide

Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

jewishcurrents.org

"Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?"

EXCERPT "The UN Genocide Convention lists five acts that fall under its definition. Israel is currently perpetrating three of these in Gaza: “1. Killing members of the group. 2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. 3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.” The Israeli Air Force, by its own account, has so far dropped more than 6,000 bombs on Gaza, which is one of the most densely populated areas in the world—almost as many bombs as the US dropped on all of Afghanistan during record-breaking years of its war there." CONTINUED



(2). "The Israel Massacre Forces"
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israel-massacre-forces-1.5962852

EXCERPT "The shooting on the Gaza border shows once again that the killing of Palestinians is accepted in Israel more lightly than the killing of mosquitoes"CONTINUED


(3). “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003



(4). "Top Pentagon adviser says ‘Israeli lobby’ funds officials who want war"

"Douglas Macgregor blamed pro-Israel policy for driving the United States into the Iraq conflict after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,"

Top Pentagon adviser says ‘Israeli lobby’ funds officials who want war

Douglas Macgregor blamed pro-Israel policy for driving the United States into the Iraq conflict after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "Douglas Macgregor, a top adviser to President Donald Trump’s new acting defense secretary, routinely blames “the Israeli lobby” and “neocons” for pushing the United States into wars.

CNN’s KFile uncovered interviews in which Macgregor, a decorated combat veteran who appears frequently on Fox News and other conservative media, says “pro-Israel” donors and the pro-Israel lobby are behind efforts to drive the United States into war." CONTINUED

There's no doubt that Netanyahu and his henchmen are committing raw genocide (1) in murdering far more civilians than resistance fighters.

What is the allowed number of civilian casualties?

 

[surada]

Your sources are not credible.

The Israelis fight their own wars. All they need are our financial and military support. Fortunately, they are getting plenty of both.

Jews belong in Israel. Palestinians belong in the middle of the Arabian desert.

The governments of Egypt and Jordan have said that Palestinians are not welcome in their countries. That is because they know what Palestinians are like.

Refugee populations are a problem. They have already taken in over 700,000 Palestinians or more considering 1948-1967.

Remember, no one would accept the Jewish refugees after WW2. You should be ashamed. You aren't who I thought you were.

 

[Grau]

There's no doubt that Netanyahu and his henchmen are committing raw genocide (1) in murdering far more civilians than resistance fighters.

What is the allowed number of civilian casualties?

That would depend on the ethical nature of the attacking regime.

What would you expect from cowardly occupiers who target unarmed children at play. (1)


(1) “Video Shows IDF Snipers Shooting Palestinian Children For Fun, But Facebook Won’t Let You Share It”

Account Suspended

EXCERPT “Footage released on YouTube clearly shows Israeli soldiers firing live rounds at Palestinian children playing on a roof in Al Khalil, an area of Hebron in Occupied Palestine. An important piece of evidence attesting to the brutality of Israeli occupation. Yet, Facebook users have reported that the social media platform is preventing them from sharing the video.” CONTINUED

 

[Hector12]

Refugee populations are a problem. They have already taken in over 700,000 Palestinians or more considering 1948-1967.

Remember, no one would accept the Jewish refugees after WW2. You should be ashamed. You aren't who I thought you were.

I am a Christian who admires Jews, respects Judaism, and loves Israel. If you did not know that, you read my posts with poor reading comprehension ability.

 

[Hector12]

There's nothing wrong with the sources I cite.
You just don't like the facts the illuminate about Zionist - Nazi complicity and Levantine realities.



The Jews have been thrown out of over 100 countries.
Is that because "they know what Jews are like"?

There's no doubt that Netanyahu and his henchmen are committing raw genocide (1) in murdering far more civilians than resistance fighters.

Even Israeli media acknowledges the murderous excesses of the US funded IDF.(2)

My original question had to do with loyalty. One cannot be loyal to two countries any more than one cannot be loyal to 2 spouses and Israel has repeatedly proven to be America's most treacherous and parasitic "ally".
Since it has long been severely detrimental to US interests to aid and abet Zionist genocide and expansionism, it is a betrayal of America and the young American G.I.s who do, indeed, die to preserve Israeli regional hegemony.(3), (4)

What do you think US troops are doing in the Middle East right now except dying for Israel and inciting even more anti American sentiment around the world?


“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)


(1). "A Textbook Case of Genocide"

A Textbook Case of Genocide

Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

jewishcurrents.org

"Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?"

EXCERPT "The UN Genocide Convention lists five acts that fall under its definition. Israel is currently perpetrating three of these in Gaza: “1. Killing members of the group. 2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. 3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.” The Israeli Air Force, by its own account, has so far dropped more than 6,000 bombs on Gaza, which is one of the most densely populated areas in the world—almost as many bombs as the US dropped on all of Afghanistan during record-breaking years of its war there." CONTINUED



(2). "The Israel Massacre Forces"
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israel-massacre-forces-1.5962852

EXCERPT "The shooting on the Gaza border shows once again that the killing of Palestinians is accepted in Israel more lightly than the killing of mosquitoes"CONTINUED


(3). “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”

AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003



(4). "Top Pentagon adviser says ‘Israeli lobby’ funds officials who want war"

"Douglas Macgregor blamed pro-Israel policy for driving the United States into the Iraq conflict after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,"

Top Pentagon adviser says ‘Israeli lobby’ funds officials who want war

Douglas Macgregor blamed pro-Israel policy for driving the United States into the Iraq conflict after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks,

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "Douglas Macgregor, a top adviser to President Donald Trump’s new acting defense secretary, routinely blames “the Israeli lobby” and “neocons” for pushing the United States into wars.

CNN’s KFile uncovered interviews in which Macgregor, a decorated combat veteran who appears frequently on Fox News and other conservative media, says “pro-Israel” donors and the pro-Israel lobby are behind efforts to drive the United States into war." CONTINUED

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That would depend on the ethical nature of the attacking regime.

What would you expect from cowardly occupiers who target unarmed children at play. (1)


(1) “Video Shows IDF Snipers Shooting Palestinian Children For Fun, But Facebook Won’t Let You Share It”

Account Suspended

EXCERPT “Footage released on YouTube clearly shows Israeli soldiers firing live rounds at Palestinian children playing on a roof in Al Khalil, an area of Hebron in Occupied Palestine. An important piece of evidence attesting to the brutality of Israeli occupation. Yet, Facebook users have reported that the social media platform is preventing them from sharing the video.” CONTINUED

What do you feel the allowed number of civilian casualties should be?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Refugee populations are a problem. They have already taken in over 700,000 Palestinians or more considering 1948-1967.

How many of them did they allow to become citizens?
How many did they take in the last year?

 

[Shusha]

Refugee populations are a problem. They have already taken in over 700,000 Palestinians or more considering 1948-1967.

Jordan and Egypt did not take in the 700,000 or so total "refugees" from the conflict. Most of them are still in the territory, and are therefore internally displaced persons, or nationals of Palestine or Israel - not refugees.

 

[Roudy]

They left Palestine thousands of years ago.

You lie like a rug. You yourself just admitted that Jews were indeed invited the ottomans to resettle after being in exile over 700 years ago, and even at that time there were still some Jews that were there. So the Jews always maintained a presence. Zionism isn’t a new thing you ignorant dipshit, it’s part of the Jewish faith.

 

[Roudy]

The objective is to kill them all.

The objective is to kill whoever and whatever is trying to kill you.

 

[Kruska]

No, they didn't. If you have evidence as to where and how the (administrative, if not sovereign) border between Serbia and Kosovo is DIFFERENT from the long-recognized previous administrative borders, and were created whole cloth and unilaterally by Kosovo please do share.

Wrong, they did and still do.

A provincial border - whereby the province (Kosovo) is part of a sovereign nation (Serbia) does NOT constitute an internationally recognized national border towards it's legal owner e.g. Serbia. Also not in the case of e.g. Kosovo declaring independence - since it needs the consent aka a treaty with Serbia - whereby the latter might recognize an independent Kosovo, and as such agrees to establish a new national border between the two States, that "could" or "could not" be based onto a former internal provincial border.

As such if a foreign power or e.g. the UN prevents e.g. Serbian State security forces (Police) from entering Kosovo - then that foreign power or the UN is 'Illegally" imposing a national border onto Serbia in regards to Kosovo. Furthermore Serbia has the right to abandon, withdraw it's consent towards the UN, aka KFOR at any given time. Thus enabling Serbia to "legally" sending in it's national military forces into it's province of Kosovo, to e.g. "quell" civil unrest and "protect" everyone incl. those of Serbian ethnicity.

The EU court (neither Kosovo nor Serbia are EU members - therefore decisions from the EU court are factually irrelevant) has awarded and acknowledged Kosovo the status of being a "country" - instead of being a Serbian province - thus "imposing" national borders onto Serbia.
Why has the EU court come to that decision? because being declared a country, Kosovo then can claim EU membership - thus the EU then again, being in a position to "impose" a national border onto Serbia.

Since when does Egypt get to choose Israel's borders? Or Palestine's? States don't get to create borders for other States. The 1949 Armistice was a temporary agreement to stop fighting. It was between Israel and Egypt, who not have a peace treaty. Nothing about the 1949 ADL is relevant any more. And it was never relevant with respect to any nascent State of Palestine.

Absolutely wrong

First off all, Egypt and Israel have both signed a peace-treaty and as such recognized each others national borders - based onto the previous Green Line (in turn nothing else but the previous established British Mandate borders) - the same goes for Jordan and Israel.
With both Egypt and Jordan having rescinded their previous occupational&administrative claims towards Gaza and the West-bank.

You are even ignorant towards the Camp David Accords.
Prime minister Begin and the Israeli Knesset agreed that a transitional self-governing Palestinian authority was to be elected to replace Israeli political and military forces in the occupied territories of Gaza and the West-bank.
It is only Israel that keeps on defying UN resolutions, and treaties and refuses to hand over Gaza and the West-bank (clearly defined territory) via the previous known and acknowledged Green Line) to the Palestinian authorities, and recognizing these territories to form a sovereign Palestinian State.

Israel had even clearly admitted to the "known Green Line" territorial encompassing borders of the West-bank - otherwise they could not have specified an additional claim of 8% onto that territory - compensating 4% of it, via Israeli territory - As such having clearly defined existing known territory which you falsely claim to be unknown in territorial size and borders - and needs to be negotiated onto !!!