The Religion of Atheism

[uscitizen]

Yeah about the same way most religious discussions turn out.

 

[dblack]

Yeah about the same way most religious discussions turn out.

I dunno. Depends on who you're discussin' with. I've had some really interesting conversations about religion. it's one of the most fascinating things people do.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah about the same way most religious discussions turn out.

It also depends on both sides having discussion. I can have a reasoned discussion with you.

The other jackhole, however, is an obvious troll (and a bad one) and I like playing with them from time to time, like a cat playing with a piece of string. A dumb, dumb, piece of string.

 

[BreezeWood]

can the sequence of DNA evolve without a Basis that is common to all of mankind that makes their mere existence the true religion no one can avoid - whether from God the OuterWorld (yes) or not.

the extinct Dinosaurs no longer have religion - Polar Bears have their own sequence from one generation to another ever evolving for the duration of their species.

the OuterWorld of the Everlasting is the Source for the Engineering of DNA.

 

[JohnA]

When a person takes atheism from neutrality towards religon and makes it hostility towards religion, they become part of the equation.

It is similar to the argument over zero really being a number, or not.

most people aren't hostile to religion. they're hostile when people try to impose religion on them

Actually the people that are most hostile to a religion are those who belong to a different religion.
Not those who do not believe in a religion.

correct and most hostilities are started by religious folks shoving their beliefs down ones thoat

a lot of religious folks carry it around on their sleeve .if the team wins

<<<PRAISE BE TO GOD >>>
what would be the reaction if i said THEY WON WITH OUT THE HELP OF A DEITY would they just ignore my words ? i dont think so

i was at a council meeting new members they wanted to pray at the start of the meeting no said i lets just have *2 minutes silence * for each his own .. didnt want that they said then called me a wicked evil atheist ,
thats religion for you my way or the high way


im atheist NEVER bring it up unless to answer another
religion /belief is a PRIVATE matter

 

[JohnA]

Whatever the courts say we must abide by
but in all honesty i cant see why they ruled as such
catholics are catholics and follow dotrine / tenats jews same thing , moslims also , what they are told by the leaders to believe in
atheists generally are not in groups athou i have heard there are some, and in fact there are a few atheist web sites and chat rooms
atheists can be republican . socialist , black, white ,old ,young rich ,poor .educated , illiterate the ONLY thing they share is a non belief in a deity
they have no rules uniforms ,custom dress ,hierachy ,no tithing ,no organization .no holy days , no official book ,no history of war . just a simple belief of no god .......and a wish to be left alone by religious fanatics

 

[uscitizen]

can the sequence of DNA evolve without a Basis that is common to all of mankind that makes their mere existence the true religion no one can avoid - whether from God the OuterWorld (yes) or not.

the extinct Dinosaurs no longer have religion - Polar Bears have their own sequence from one generation to another ever evolving for the duration of their species.

the OuterWorld of the Everlasting is the Source for the Engineering of DNA.

Yeah and all diseases used to be caused by evil spirits or sins.
Just because we do not understand something does not mean it was cuased by some ultimate being in control of everything.

I still tounge in cheek somewhat believe that life on earth is the result of an alien school kids failed science project.
It is as valid of a hypothesis as that God did it.
Perhaps the kids name was God?

 

[JohnA]

2. Atheism is itself a religion. While atheist will argue that they don't believe in any god, the issue is not merely non-belief in God or gods but in having ANY sort of belief system. The belief system of atheism is centered around the philosophy of "secular-humanism."


3. Atheism is a religion according to a 2005 Wisconsin federal court ruling as well as the U.S. Supreme Court—the highest court in the land.

I pray to God that that ruling is true! Do you have a link?
Then we Atheists can get the same special tax privileges believers get!!!

I never thought of it like that. PRAISE BE TO NO GOD!!!!!!

im a atheist i swear to god i am

 

[JohnA]

That to me is more agnosticsim. Most of the people you see in the news called atheists are hostile to any religous expression in public, and 100% so if it takes place on public ground.

Think the whole cross thing in San Diego, or the usual "You cant put a manger in the town square" dust-ups.

Most Atheists just shrug off religion and go about their lives

Again, to me more agnosticism. If most just shrug religon off, then your viewpoint is poorly represented by those who speak in your name, and piss people off by trying to get mangers taken out of town squares.

i dont want mangers taken out of town squares i just want my flying spagetti monster statue sitting by the side of it ...are you happy with that ?

 

[JohnA]

, then pro-secularist courts speak out of the other side of their faces and say that Secular Humanism is NOT a religion "for establishment clause purposes." This is slimy deceitful legalism at its worst.

Please give us the links to the courts that ruled that. Thanks.

Secular Humanists are allowed to teach the tenets of the religion of Secular Humanism from the blackboard during class.

I am not aware of this happening, do you have links. Here's what I suspect though, any such claim will be teachers teaching something that is also to be found in Secular Humanist teachings even if the teach is not a secular humanist and the teaching wasn't part of some over secular humanist program. But that's like claiming that if a teacher says that murder and stealing and lying are wrong and you should respect your parents that they're teaching religion...which is ridiculous.

As you can see, the above is a classic example of hypocrisy.

Actually I've always found the hypocrisy to be those who say there is no separation of church and state and that teachers should be free to lead prayer.....except when it's a prayer or religion they disagree with.

which is always the case

say a prayer at school.what prayer ??
why one of ours of course

allow a religious symbal in a public place at xmas

sure thing as long as its a manger

 

[martybegan]

Most Atheists just shrug off religion and go about their lives

Again, to me more agnosticism. If most just shrug religon off, then your viewpoint is poorly represented by those who speak in your name, and piss people off by trying to get mangers taken out of town squares.

i dont want mangers taken out of town squares i just want my flying spagetti monster statue sitting by the side of it ...are you happy with that ?

Does the flying spaghetti monster have a holiday in December?

Also, people put up mangers as a sign of fate. You want the flying spaghetti monster up there as a sign of spite.

Its the spite shown by these lawsuits that piss alot of a people off.

 

[dblack]

Does the flying spaghetti monster have a holiday in December?

Also, people put up mangers as a sign of fate. You want the flying spaghetti monster up there as a sign of spite.

Its the spite shown by these lawsuits that piss alot of a people off.

Well, the flying spaghetti monster examples are facetious. But the points raised are serious. There are other religions. Should tax money be spent promoting (or celebrating) one over all the others?

Personally, I think griping about a small display put up by local government is petty, but there is a point where the line ought to be drawn - certainly somewhere between a creche and "National Christian Prayer Hour". At what point would you limit government promotion of religion?

 

[martybegan]

Does the flying spaghetti monster have a holiday in December?

Also, people put up mangers as a sign of fate. You want the flying spaghetti monster up there as a sign of spite.

Its the spite shown by these lawsuits that piss alot of a people off.

Well, the flying spaghetti monster examples are facetious. But the points raised are serious. There are other religions. Should tax money be spent promoting (or celebrating) one over all the others?

Personally, I think griping about a small display put up by local government is petty, but there is a point where the line ought to be drawn - certainly somewhere between a creche and "National Christian Prayer Hour". At what point would you limit government promotion of religion?

The government shouldnt pay for it, what I am against is government banning the use of the land. I would even make those putting up the manger provide thier own snow removal in the area while in use to avoid the use of government money for it.

As for the "National Christian Prayer hour" you cant make it compulsory, or spend any government money on it, but you shouldnt be able to prevent a government offical from declaring it.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

As for the "National Christian Prayer hour" you cant make it compulsory, or spend any government money on it, but you shouldnt be able to prevent a government offical from declaring it.

a govt employee declaring it would be the definition of violation of church state

 

[martybegan]

As for the "National Christian Prayer hour" you cant make it compulsory, or spend any government money on it, but you shouldnt be able to prevent a government offical from declaring it.

a govt employee declaring it would be the definition of violation of church state

Not according to the federal court so far,

National Day of Prayer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[pinqy]

As for the "National Christian Prayer hour" you cant make it compulsory, or spend any government money on it, but you shouldnt be able to prevent a government offical from declaring it.

a govt employee declaring it would be the definition of violation of church state

Not according to the federal court so far,

National Day of Prayer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're talking about National Day of Prayer, not "National CHRISTIAN Prayer. There is enough of a difference to be important.

 

[martybegan]

a govt employee declaring it would be the definition of violation of church state

Not according to the federal court so far,

National Day of Prayer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're talking about National Day of Prayer, not "National CHRISTIAN Prayer. There is enough of a difference to be important.

good point, but the end result is your more militant atheists would oppose both.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

atheist equals thinking adult

sorry, i know that pisses you rightwing so called xtians off, but it is true

 

[martybegan]

atheist equals thinking adult

sorry, i know that pisses you rightwing so called xtians off, but it is true

You were so close to a rational discussion, then you went back off your meds.

For future reference, QID means "four times per day." Try to stick to it.

 

[ConzHateUSA]

atheist equals thinking adult

sorry, i know that pisses you rightwing so called xtians off, but it is true

You were so close to a rational discussion, then you went back off your meds.

For future reference, QID means "four times per day." Try to stick to it.

Marty, I rarely argue with my 7 yr old grandson, and I wont argue with you, for the same reason

Now, why are you a vile and filthy racist?

just wondering, wish one of you would answer me someday on this