The Republicans (RINOs) are going to completely screw us again with the senate border bill

[Lesh]

Its already against the law. I9 forms. But all they have to say is they had an id and a Social Security number.

Really? And e-verify can’t pick that up?

Good system there huh?

 

[Thanos]

Can you think of a better reason?

The bill is still being negotiated between Democrats and Republicans in the Senate, you imbecile.

That's the REAL reason.

 

[eagle1462010]

Oh bullshit. If e-verified worked there would be no problem.

It doesn’t. It could but not on its current form. It was designed to fail

E Verify doesnt catch Stolen IDs

Its in HR2 but it doesnt work. Stay im third country and ending Asylum is key.

 

[eagle1462010]

Really? And e-verify can’t pick that up?

Good system there huh?

Nope

 

[eagle1462010]

The bill is still being negotiated between Democrats and Republicans in the Senate, you imbecile.

That's the REAL reason.

A very small group selected by career con artist

 

[JohnDB]

Oh bullshit. If e-verified worked there would be no problem.

It doesn’t. It could but not on its current form. It was designed to fail

Ummm
Exactly how does it NOT work,

It worked well...you either had the appropriate documents or you didn't....if you had them you got a job...you dont and you remain unemployable.

E-verify made things quick and easy...24 hours at max. Usually less than 4 hours. We took photocopies of the documents, kept them on file and that was it.

If someone didn't have the documents they couldn't have a job. The fines are too heavy for not doing it. $1,000 per incident, per day.
Sorry but that's too much for sub par employees to start with. Half of any company's costs are labor.

 

[Lesh]

Ummm
Exactly how does it NOT work,

It worked well...you either had the appropriate documents or you didn't....if you had them you got a job...you dont and you remain unemployable.

E-verify made things quick and easy...24 hours at max. Usually less than 4 hours. We took photocopies of the documents, kept them on file and that was it.

If someone didn't have the documents they couldn't have a job. The fines are too heavy for not doing it. $1,000 per incident, per day.
Sorry but that's too much for sub par employees to start with. Half of any company's costs are labor.

If e-verify worked we would not have millions of illegals in our work force.

How difficult is that to understand.

It was designed to do nothing. Just enough to have people like you claim that employers are not the problem.

They are

 

[eagle1462010]

E-Verify is a joke.

 

[eagle1462010]

As I said HR 2 has it, but will not fix that problem.

Asylum and stay in 3rd country is the positive. Of course they will challenge Asylum in the courts.

 

[Care4all]

Riddle me this, libs.

If the Trump Program at the border wasn't working, why has the number of Illegals skyrocketed during the reign of Sleepy Joe?

Of course, walls work. And the stay in Mexico policy of America led to Mexico establishing a "stay in Guatemala" program on their own southern border. No caravans going through Mexico from points south until Sleepy Joe took the helm and opened the border.

Title 42, was revoked by the supreme court or an appeals court. Biden no longer had the same legal excuse, (covid pandemic) to turn them away with title 42.I

Mexico no longer wanted to house the people in waiting for their court cases, because it is taking about 4 years to get a hearing. So all the peop!e waiting in Mexico never stopped these refugees from getting their BY LAW hearing in court for asylum they were just waiting in mexico,

....on top of the new caravans, the people in Mexico waiting, now had to come in.

funding border patrol keeps drug dealers and human traffickers and any terrorists from slipping through.

funding the immigration courts, will make their required by law court hearing for asylum much sooner, ideally within 6 months not 4 years, making it less likely for them to disappear.

Many, will be rejected for asylum in court, those rejects get deported on the spot.

Money to fund port of entry will help catch the big guy dealers transporting the drugs with 8 wheelers.

funding for sending the asylum seekers through our legal entry ports to appky, will ease up entry at illegal crossings, again freeing up border patrol to catch the bad guys, drug carriers and human traffickers and terrorists who can't enter through the legal entry.

ALL OF THESE THINGS allegedly in THE bill will work, along with all the others, to ease the crisis, put out the fire we have now.... waiting another year or more for the hopes of Trump being in office is ludicrous. He can add to these changes made if he ever gets in office again.....

 

[eagle1462010]

Title 42, was revoked by the supreme court or an appeals court. Biden no longer had the same legal excuse, (covid pandemic) to turn them away with title 42.I

Mexico no longer wanted to house the people in waiting for their court cases, because it is taking about 4 years to get a hearing. So all the peop!e waiting in Mexico never stopped these refugees from getting their BY LAW hearing in court for asylum they were just waiting in mexico,

....on top of the new caravans, the people in Mexico waiting, now had to come in.

funding border patrol keeps drug dealers and human traffickers and any terrorists from slipping through.

funding the immigration courts, will make their required by law court hearing for asylum much sooner, ideally within 6 months not 4 years, making it less likely for them to disappear.

Many, will be rejected for asylum in court, those rejects get deported on the spot.

Money to fund port of entry will help catch the big guy dealers transporting the drugs with 8 wheelers.

funding for sending the asylum seekers through our legal entry ports to appky, will ease up entry at illegal crossings, again freeing up border patrol to catch the bad guys, drug carriers and human traffickers and terrorists who can't enter through the legal entry.

ALL OF THESE THINGS allegedly in THE bill will work, along with all the others, to ease the crisis, put out the fire we have now.... waiting another year or more for the hopes of Trump being in office is ludicrous. He can add to these changes made if he ever gets in office again.....

It is clear who is at fault for it.

Crystal Clear.

 

[Care4all]

It is clear who is at fault for it.

Crystal Clear.

Yep, in your propagandized head, for certain!

 

[Mac-7]

Logic is not your friend. I guess that’s how you ended up in the Cult.-

Going after employers who hire the illegals and this create this problem would make us a police state but militarizing our border like North Korea and rounding up over ten million people

Would not.

Surreal

I guess we all have to choose our enemies

For me its the millions of dirt poor foreigners who are overloading our social services

For you the enemy is your fellow Americans

 

[eagle1462010]

Yep, in your propagandized head, for certain!

In Facts that you refuse to see.

 

[Mac-7]

The bill is still being negotiated between Democrats and Republicans in the Senate, you imbecile.

That's the REAL reason.

Your argument is so weak that personal insults become your crutch

 

[Thanos]

Your argument is so weak that personal insults become your crutch

I hate all of you MAGAs, especially for your continued support of a traitor like Trump. No real American still supports Trump after Jan 6.

That's why I call you names.

And the reason you STILL support Trump after Jan 6 is you are NOT very smart, quite frankly. Therefore, calling you an imbecile is more than appropriate.

 

[eagle1462010]

I hate all of you MAGAs, especially for your continued support of a traitor like Trump. No real American still supports Trump after Jan 6.

That's why I call you names.

And the reason you STILL support Trump after Jan 6 is you are NOT very smart, quite frankly. Therefore, calling you an imbecile is more than appropriate.

None of us gives a fuck. You arent important troll

 

[Mac-7]

I hate all of you MAGAs, especially for your continued support of a traitor like Trump. No real American still supports Trump after Jan 6.

That's why I call you names.

And the reason you STILL support Trump after Jan 6 is you are NOT very smart, quite frankly. Therefore, calling you an imbecile is more than appropriate.

You call people names because you are insecure and cant discuss an issue rationally or calmly

Name calling is your defense mechanism

 

[Kondor3]

From Senator Mike Lee: "Earlier today, a reporter standing outside the Senate chamber told me that, after four months of secrecy, The Firm™? plans to release the text of the $106 billion supplemental aid / border-security package—possibly as soon as tomorrow. Wasting no time, she then asked, “if you get the bill by tomorrow, will you be ready to vote on it by Tuesday?” The words “hell no” escaped my mouth before I could stop them. Those are strong words where I come from. (Sorry, Mom). The reporter immediately understood that my frustration was not directed at her. Rather, it was directed at the Law Firm of Schumer & McConnell (“The Firm™?”), which is perpetually trying to normalize a corrupt approach to legislating—in which The Firm™? (1) spends months drafting legislation in complete secrecy, (2) aggressively markets that legislation based not on its details and practical implications (good and bad), but only on its broadest, least-controversial objectives, (3) lets members see bill text for the first time only a few days (sometimes a few hours) before an arbitrary deadline imposed by The Firm™? itself, always with a contrived sense of urgency, and then (4) forces a vote on the legislation on or before that deadline, denying senators any real opportunity to read, digest, and debate the measure on its merits, much less introduce, consider, and vote on amendments to fix any perceived problems with the bill or otherwise improve it. Whenever The Firm™? engages in this practice, it largely excludes nearly every senator from the constitutionally prescribed process in which all senators are supposed to participate. By so doing, The Firm™? effectively disenfranchises hundreds of millions of Americans—at least for purposes relevant to the legislation at hand—and that’s tragic. It’s also unAmerican, uncivil, uncollegial, and really uncool. So why does The Firm™? do it? Every time The Firm™? utilizes this approach and the bill passes—and it nearly always does—The Firm™? becomes more powerful. The high success rate is largely attributable to the fact that The Firm™? has become very adept at (a) enlisting the help of the (freakishly cooperative) news media, (b) exerting peer pressure in a way that makes what you experienced in middle school look mild by comparison, and (c) rewarding those who consistently vote with The Firm™? with various privileges that The Firm™? is uniquely capable of offering (committee assignments, help with campaign fundraising, and a whole host of other widely coveted things that The Firm™? is free to distribute in any manner it pleases). It’s through this process that The Firm™? passes most major spending legislation. It’s through this process that The Firm™? likely intends to pass the still-secret, $106 billion supplemental aid / border-security package, which The Firm™? has spent four months negotiating, with the luxury of obsessing over every sentence, word, period, and comma. I still don’t know exactly what’s in this bill, although I have serious concerns with it based on the few details The Firm™? has been willing to share. But under no circumstances should this bill — which would fund military operations in three distant parts of the world and make massive, permanent changes to immigration law — be passed next week. Nor should it be passed until we have had adequate time to read the bill, discuss it with constituents, debate it, offer amendments, and vote on those amendments. There’s no universe in which those things will happen by next week. Depending on how long it is and the complexity of its provisions, the minimum period of time we should devote to this bill after it’s released should be measured in weeks or months, not days or hours."

I'm not a fan but at least Mike Lee laid out how the swamp is the swamp. And why everyday Americans and even the people we elect, really have no say in Washington.....The Firm is a fine name for it.

And Eye Patch McCain has nothing to say about the House Border Security bill, HR2, being buried under the senate building by Chuck Schumer for the last eight months. Schumer has sat on a border security bill since May of last year. Go fuck yourself, Eye Patch.

Not to worry... the bill will never make it past the House, will it?

 

[Thanos]

You call people names because you are insecure and cant discuss an issue rationally or calmly

Name calling is your defense mechanism

You still support Trump after Jan 6....PERIOD.

Therefore, you are NOT capable of rational thought. You are radicalized and stuck in a cult and there is nothing left to discuss.