The Republicans (RINOs) are going to completely screw us again with the senate border bill

[CrusaderFrank]

From Senator Mike Lee: "Earlier today, a reporter standing outside the Senate chamber told me that, after four months of secrecy, The Firm™? plans to release the text of the $106 billion supplemental aid / border-security package—possibly as soon as tomorrow. Wasting no time, she then asked, “if you get the bill by tomorrow, will you be ready to vote on it by Tuesday?” The words “hell no” escaped my mouth before I could stop them. Those are strong words where I come from. (Sorry, Mom). The reporter immediately understood that my frustration was not directed at her. Rather, it was directed at the Law Firm of Schumer & McConnell (“The Firm™?”), which is perpetually trying to normalize a corrupt approach to legislating—in which The Firm™? (1) spends months drafting legislation in complete secrecy, (2) aggressively markets that legislation based not on its details and practical implications (good and bad), but only on its broadest, least-controversial objectives, (3) lets members see bill text for the first time only a few days (sometimes a few hours) before an arbitrary deadline imposed by The Firm™? itself, always with a contrived sense of urgency, and then (4) forces a vote on the legislation on or before that deadline, denying senators any real opportunity to read, digest, and debate the measure on its merits, much less introduce, consider, and vote on amendments to fix any perceived problems with the bill or otherwise improve it. Whenever The Firm™? engages in this practice, it largely excludes nearly every senator from the constitutionally prescribed process in which all senators are supposed to participate. By so doing, The Firm™? effectively disenfranchises hundreds of millions of Americans—at least for purposes relevant to the legislation at hand—and that’s tragic. It’s also unAmerican, uncivil, uncollegial, and really uncool. So why does The Firm™? do it? Every time The Firm™? utilizes this approach and the bill passes—and it nearly always does—The Firm™? becomes more powerful. The high success rate is largely attributable to the fact that The Firm™? has become very adept at (a) enlisting the help of the (freakishly cooperative) news media, (b) exerting peer pressure in a way that makes what you experienced in middle school look mild by comparison, and (c) rewarding those who consistently vote with The Firm™? with various privileges that The Firm™? is uniquely capable of offering (committee assignments, help with campaign fundraising, and a whole host of other widely coveted things that The Firm™? is free to distribute in any manner it pleases). It’s through this process that The Firm™? passes most major spending legislation. It’s through this process that The Firm™? likely intends to pass the still-secret, $106 billion supplemental aid / border-security package, which The Firm™? has spent four months negotiating, with the luxury of obsessing over every sentence, word, period, and comma. I still don’t know exactly what’s in this bill, although I have serious concerns with it based on the few details The Firm™? has been willing to share. But under no circumstances should this bill — which would fund military operations in three distant parts of the world and make massive, permanent changes to immigration law — be passed next week. Nor should it be passed until we have had adequate time to read the bill, discuss it with constituents, debate it, offer amendments, and vote on those amendments. There’s no universe in which those things will happen by next week. Depending on how long it is and the complexity of its provisions, the minimum period of time we should devote to this bill after it’s released should be measured in weeks or months, not days or hours."

I'm not a fan but at least Mike Lee laid out how the swamp is the swamp. And why everyday Americans and even the people we elect, really have no say in Washington.....The Firm is a fine name for it.

And Eye Patch McCain has nothing to say about the House Border Security bill, HR2, being buried under the senate building by Chuck Schumer for the last eight months. Schumer has sat on a border security bill since May of last year. Go fuck yourself, Eye Patch.

Times like these, I envy the democrats for having the Fort Marcy Park option

 

[JoeB131]

MSN

Why is Biden welding open the gates of the border wall then?

Why do we have a border wall at all? Most countries don't need them because they have sensible immigration laws.

The foolishness is thinking a wall is going to solve the problem. If Oceans and Mountains can be overcome, anything built by man can be overcome.

 

[JoeB131]

Walls and fences help impede entrance into an area, which is why Biden welded the border fence open.

Again, if you travelled 2000 miles through desert, you aren't going to be upset that you encountered a wall that it will take you all of five minutes to cut through, climb over or dig under.

If you guys were really serious about immigration reform, you'd go after the white people who hire them under the table.

 

[Oddball]

because there isn't one, except in your head.

Now Biden has a bill that will address your concerns, and you guys want to kill it so Trump will have something to talk about other than his 91 felony counts and how he's not really as rich as he says he is.

See?...There we go again!

There is no crisis, but we need to pass his "border bill" rightfuckingnow!

You shitlibs are fucking schizoid!

 

[Votto]

Why do we have a border wall at all? Most countries don't need them because they have sensible immigration laws.

The foolishness is thinking a wall is going to solve the problem. If Oceans and Mountains can be overcome, anything built by man can be overcome.

Why is Biden welding open the walls then?

No one claimed that walls worked 100% of the time, but to pretend they don't deter is asinine and disingenuous.

You know, kind of like how you act 24/7.

 

[Blaster]

From Senator Mike Lee: "Earlier today, a reporter standing outside the Senate chamber told me that, after four months of secrecy, The Firm™? plans to release the text of the $106 billion supplemental aid / border-security package—possibly as soon as tomorrow. Wasting no time, she then asked, “if you get the bill by tomorrow, will you be ready to vote on it by Tuesday?” The words “hell no” escaped my mouth before I could stop them. Those are strong words where I come from. (Sorry, Mom). The reporter immediately understood that my frustration was not directed at her. Rather, it was directed at the Law Firm of Schumer & McConnell (“The Firm™?”), which is perpetually trying to normalize a corrupt approach to legislating—in which The Firm™? (1) spends months drafting legislation in complete secrecy, (2) aggressively markets that legislation based not on its details and practical implications (good and bad), but only on its broadest, least-controversial objectives, (3) lets members see bill text for the first time only a few days (sometimes a few hours) before an arbitrary deadline imposed by The Firm™? itself, always with a contrived sense of urgency, and then (4) forces a vote on the legislation on or before that deadline, denying senators any real opportunity to read, digest, and debate the measure on its merits, much less introduce, consider, and vote on amendments to fix any perceived problems with the bill or otherwise improve it. Whenever The Firm™? engages in this practice, it largely excludes nearly every senator from the constitutionally prescribed process in which all senators are supposed to participate. By so doing, The Firm™? effectively disenfranchises hundreds of millions of Americans—at least for purposes relevant to the legislation at hand—and that’s tragic. It’s also unAmerican, uncivil, uncollegial, and really uncool. So why does The Firm™? do it? Every time The Firm™? utilizes this approach and the bill passes—and it nearly always does—The Firm™? becomes more powerful. The high success rate is largely attributable to the fact that The Firm™? has become very adept at (a) enlisting the help of the (freakishly cooperative) news media, (b) exerting peer pressure in a way that makes what you experienced in middle school look mild by comparison, and (c) rewarding those who consistently vote with The Firm™? with various privileges that The Firm™? is uniquely capable of offering (committee assignments, help with campaign fundraising, and a whole host of other widely coveted things that The Firm™? is free to distribute in any manner it pleases). It’s through this process that The Firm™? passes most major spending legislation. It’s through this process that The Firm™? likely intends to pass the still-secret, $106 billion supplemental aid / border-security package, which The Firm™? has spent four months negotiating, with the luxury of obsessing over every sentence, word, period, and comma. I still don’t know exactly what’s in this bill, although I have serious concerns with it based on the few details The Firm™? has been willing to share. But under no circumstances should this bill — which would fund military operations in three distant parts of the world and make massive, permanent changes to immigration law — be passed next week. Nor should it be passed until we have had adequate time to read the bill, discuss it with constituents, debate it, offer amendments, and vote on those amendments. There’s no universe in which those things will happen by next week. Depending on how long it is and the complexity of its provisions, the minimum period of time we should devote to this bill after it’s released should be measured in weeks or months, not days or hours."

I'm not a fan but at least Mike Lee laid out how the swamp is the swamp. And why everyday Americans and even the people we elect, really have no say in Washington.....The Firm is a fine name for it.

And Eye Patch McCain has nothing to say about the House Border Security bill, HR2, being buried under the senate building by Chuck Schumer for the last eight months. Schumer has sat on a border security bill since May of last year. Go fuck yourself, Eye Patch.

This looks like a win for Democrats and a loss for the American people.

 

[JWBooth]

Eyepatch McCain needs to be primaried.

Won't happen. His north Houston district is all suburbia and rural, clueless and enamored of their war hero.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yeah, you start sealing the border by hiring more border agents which the bill does.

Hire more borders agents— to help more Illegals enter

 

[rightwinger]

RINOs are the only Republicans who get things done

The ones who make people say……See, Republicans aren’t that bad

 

[Hellokitty]

Biden didn't create this crisis.
Trump created it by not reforming immigration laws 7 years go.

These people are going to come whether we want them to or not.
Because even with the most draconian laws, what they are running from is far worse than what they are running towards

Um, Biden has held office for over 50 years and you want to blame TRUMP...

 

[1srelluc]

Wow, now you guys are turning on your own war heroes for not being as hateful as you are.

You have a border bill that will at least do something, that the senate will pass and the president will sign. Is this a crisis or not?

Overseas military funding needs to be stand alone Bills.....Our border comes first.

 

[1srelluc]

Biden didn't create this crisis.
Trump created it by not reforming immigration laws 7 years go.

These people are going to come whether we want them to or not.
Because even with the most draconian laws, what they are running from is far worse than what they are running towards

You get dumber as you go along, perhaps you should quit while you are behind.

 

[JWBooth]

Overseas military funding needs to be stand alone Bills.....Our border comes first.

Everything should be stand alone. I can see exceptions for closely related items.

 

[JoeB131]

See?...There we go again!

There is no crisis, but we need to pass his "border bill" rightfuckingnow!

We should have passed immigration reform in 2008 when Bush proposed it. But you rednecks live in mortal fear a Mexican might move in next door.

 

[Lesh]

If the deal includes a massive wall extended the US-Mexico border, I'd say its worth considering. Otherwise, no fucking way.

The Republicans should be willing to negotiate for the name of the wall. Maybe instead of naming it Trump's Wall, they can name it after a RINO the left loves. Maybe the Chris Christie Memorial Fortification?

Because walls work so well. Ask the Israelis

 

[maybelooking]

The border bill will alleviate the border crisis

how. please be specific.

what will the bill do, that wasn't already being done before the pants shitter reversed it all?

 

[OldFlame]

Eyepatch McCain needs to be primaried.

What a complete disappointment he has turned out to be, another one in it solely for himself and his own ego.

 

[JoeB131]

Why is Biden welding open the walls then?

No one claimed that walls worked 100% of the time, but to pretend they don't deter is asinine and disingenuous.

Slowing them up for five minutes isn't a deterrent.

Here's how you deter them.

1) Make it impossible for them to find work when they get here if they don't go through channels.
2) Quickly resolve asylum claims so they aren't made without cause.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Mac1958]

Nice to see another Republican willing to defy the cult.

We need a LOT more of this, before it's too late.