The return of the Poll Tax

[IM2]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

 

[Norman]

We should restrict and remove voting rights from a lot of places. There is no piece of evidence that any of these things are good for the country. Good start...

 

[IM2]

We should restrict and remove voting rights from a lot of places. There is no piece of evidence that any of these things are good for the country. Good start...

No we should not fascist.

 

[Norman]

We should restrict and remove voting rights from a lot of places. There is no piece of evidence that any of these things are good for the country. Good start...

No we should not fascist.

Limiting voting rights is not fascism. By this logic monarchies are somehow inherently fascist.

 

[miketx]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

Since when is making criminals pay for their deeds wrong? More racist BS from you.

 

[Edgetho]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

I have ALWAYS had a problem with the phrase, "Paid his debt to society'' because -- It's bullshit.

How do you UN-BREAK A LAW? How do you UN-MURDER someone? How do you UN-ROB a Bank??

All an ex-con has done is served his time. That POS has NOT repaid anything. He has actually COST us money to incarcerate.his sorry ass.

The ONLY reason that this is an issue is that dimocrap FILTH think they can pick up a few million votes from scum of the Earth criminals. Since virtually all criminals are dimocrap scum, they would be correct.

That's all that's going on here, people. dimocrap FILTH are trying to steal some votes.

People who have lost their PRIVILEGE to vote (it is NOT a right, it is a privilege) need to be judged on a one-at-a-time basis. And the bar needs to be set high.

We are NOT a democracy. No democracy has ever worked or survived. We are a REPUBLIC.

Republics have a rules. And one of them is -- Voting is a privilege, NOT a right.

 

[Indeependent]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

Make Criminals Great Again!

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Democrats want to vote harvest prisons because they know most criminals are Democrats.

 

[IM2]

The expected nonsense from the same old same old.

 

[Indeependent]

The expected nonsense from the same old same old.

So stop mumbling to yourself.

 

[occupied]

Here in Florida this feels like a betrayal and has little popular support but that never stops republicans from doing the shit they do.

 

[Ricky LIbtardo]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

I have ALWAYS had a problem with the phrase, "Paid his debt to society'' because -- It's bullshit.

How do you UN-BREAK A LAW? How do you UN-MURDER someone? How do you UN-ROB a Bank??

All an ex-con has done is served his time. That POS has NOT repaid anything. He has actually COST us money to incarcerate.his sorry ass.

The ONLY reason that this is an issue is that dimocrap FILTH think they can pick up a few million votes from scum of the Earth criminals. Since virtually all criminals are dimocrap scum, they would be correct.

That's all that's going on here, people. dimocrap FILTH are trying to steal some votes.

People who have lost their PRIVILEGE to vote (it is NOT a right, it is a privilege) need to be judged on a one-at-a-time basis. And the bar needs to be set high.

We are NOT a democracy. No democracy has ever worked or survived. We are a REPUBLIC.

Republics have a rules. And one of them is -- Voting is a privilege, NOT a right.

Criminals should be forced to work to offset the cost of housing and feeding their sorry asses. The number of incarcerated would drop dramatically. The reason they're criminals is they don't want to work.

Most criminals are Democrats and it's no mystery to anyone with a brain why Democrats are hell bent on giving criminals voting rights. Same thing with getting illegal aliens here to drop anchor babies as fast as they can. VOTES

 

[Billy_Bob]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

Considering that these fines and fees are part of the punishment, until they are paid in full no access to a voting right is permissible as it was lost on the conviction of a crime, a reasonable and prudent action by the courts. Until the debts are fully paid they get nothing. It is not a poll tax. It is simply the completion of their debt to society.

Gawd you left tards like to twist up shit and lie..

 

[Damaged Eagle]

If they haven't paid their fines, court costs, and are still on parole, they have not fulfilled their debt to society.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Edgetho]

Founders Online: Constitutional Convention. Remarks on the Term of Office for M …

“This question has already been considered in several points of view. We are now forming a republican government. Real liberty is neither found in despotism or the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments.

“Those who mean to form a solid republican government, ought to proceed to the confines of another government. As long as offices are open to all men, and no constitutional rank is established, it is pure republicanism. But if we incline too much to democracy, we shall soon shoot into a monarchy. The difference of property is already great amongst us. Commerce and industry will still increase the disparity. Your government must meet this state of things, or combinations will in process of time, undermine your system......

~ Hamilton

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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch ~ Benjamin Franklin

Democracies suck ass ~~ Edgetho, 2019

 

[Billy_Bob]

Here in Florida this feels like a betrayal and has little popular support but that never stops republicans from doing the shit they do.

The completion of the sentence imposed by the court isn't done until the fines are paid. No return of rights is authorized until their debt to society is completed.. Now be a good little turd and climb back under your rock.

 

[pinqy]

It's all in the past we are told.

The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida
By The Editorial Board

A Republican proposal would condition the right to vote on the payment of all outstanding court fines and fees.

Florida voters approved a ballot measure in November to restore voting rights to up to 1.4 million people with felony convictions who have served their sentences and thus paid their debt to society. The passage of Amendment 4, which went into effect in January, righted 150 years of injustice.

But Republican lawmakers in the state immediately went to work to undermine that progress. On March 19, a state House panel on criminal justice approved, along party lines, a measure that would erect new roadblocks for the Floridians who just regained the right to vote.

The new proposal would require those who want their voting rights restored to first pay all outstanding court fees and costs arising from their prior convictions — a move that one Democratic lawmaker denounced as an unconstitutional poll tax.

Under Amendment 4, “any disqualification from voting arising from a felony conviction shall terminate and voting rights shall be restored upon completion of all terms of sentence including parole or probation.”

But Florida Republicans want “completion” of a sentence to include “a financial obligation arising from a felony conviction” — such as the court costs and fines that Florida is notorious for imposing on top of criminal sentences. This would, in effect, suppress the votes of people who are too poor to pay.

Opinion | The Return of the Poll Tax in Florida

And that is not a poll tax. A poll tax is a tax on a person for simply existing.

 

[leftwinger]

Only those who have to file Fed Taxes should vote Federal.

 

[Edgetho]

Here in Florida this feels like a betrayal and has little popular support but that never stops republicans from doing the shit they do.

The completion of the sentence imposed by the court isn't done until the fines are paid. No return of rights is authorized until their debt to society is completed.. No be a good little turd and climb back under your rock.

So, does that mean the rape the asshole committed is now forgiven and all is forgotten?

Convicts lost their voting privileges and they should never be returned except on an exceptional basis.

Maybe if they promise to never for vote a lying, thieving piece of shit dimocrap scumbag..... Which they ALL are

But then, if they weren't dimocrap scum themselves, they would probably have not committed a crime in the first place.

Next thing you know, dimocrap scum will be trying to let non-citizen, Illegal Aliens vote......

 

[Billy_Bob]

Only those who have to file Taxes should vote. Period.

Unfortunately that would be a poll tax... I agree (as this would kill 99% of the hand out democrat base) but still not a good place to go IMHO. I would rather put them to work and get them paying taxes than disenfranchise them.