The Right To Bear Arms

[bripat9643]

By Peter Weber

That's the opinion of Rupert Murdoch's conservative New York Post. And it's not as far-fetched as it may seem.

Well, let's read the text of the Second Amendment, says Jeffrey Sachs at The Huffington Post:

A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.​

It's astonishingly clear that "the Second Amendment is a relic of the founding era more than two centuries ago," and "its purpose is long past."

As Justice John Paul Stevens argues persuasively, the amendment should not block the ability of society to keep itself safe through gun control legislation. That was never its intent. This amendment was about militias in the 1790s, and the fear of the anti-federalists of a federal army. Since that issue is long moot, we need not be governed in our national life by doctrines on now-extinct militias from the 18th century.​

"Fair-minded readers have to acknowledge that the text is ambiguous," says Cass Sunstein at Bloomberg View. Justice Antonin Scalia, who wrote the majority opinion in Heller, was laying out his interpretation of a "genuinely difficult" legal question, and "I am not saying that the court was wrong." More to the point: Right or wrong, obsolete or relevant, the Second Amendment essentially means what five justices on the Supreme Court say it means. So "we should respect the fact that the individual right to have guns has been established," but even the pro-gun interpretation laid out by Scalia explicitly allows for banning the kinds of weapons the shooter used to murder 20 first-graders. The real problem is in the political arena, where "opponents of gun control, armed with both organization and money, have been invoking the Second Amendment far more recklessly," using "wild and unsupportable claims about the meaning of the Constitution" to shut down debate on what sort of regulations might save lives.

More: Is the Second Amendment obsolete? - The Week

The Constitution exist only in the context of its case law, as interpreted by the Supreme Court, as authorized by the doctrine of judicial review.

Neither the Constitution nor any of its Amendments are ‘obsolete.’

Whatever the current case law might be concerning the Second Amendment, however, further restrictions, regulations, or even bans will do little to curtail gun violence.

The genius of the Constitution is it compels us to seek actual solutions to our many problems; be it abortion, campaign finance reform, or gun violence, the Constitution prevents us from taking the ‘easy route’ often taken by dictatorships and totalitarian regimes, where the liberty of the people is destroyed.

This does not mean we are helpless to do nothing, at the mercy of strict, unyielding jurisprudence protecting the rights of gun owners; rather, it means we must find solutions based on facts and evidence, and be prepared to address and acknowledge painful, embarrassing aspects of our society and culture.

Spoken like a true America hating Marxist.

 

[Lakhota]

Trump is setting the precedent for a national emergency on guns. What goes around comes around.

 

[danielpalos]

Maybe a future president will declare a National Emergency on GUNS. That would make more sense than Trump's vanity wall.

Yes, the lack of guns is a national emergency.
If everyone was armed, there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer lies from politicians.

How is that working in Chicago?

 

[Rigby5]

Maybe a future president will declare a National Emergency on GUNS. That would make more sense than Trump's vanity wall.

Yes, the lack of guns is a national emergency.
If everyone was armed, there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer lies from politicians.

How is that working in Chicago?

It is not working in Chicago because fascists have implemented gun control in Chicago, so only criminals can have guns.

We know that the caused of crime and murders are, and have always been.
They are poverty, injustice, lack of opportunity, inequality, corruption, etc.
That means things like the War on Drugs and federal gun laws are entirely at fault.
The people can't ever be the problem, because it is the people who you not only can trust more than the government, but were historically safer with arms than the government is.

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

 

[2aguy]

Trump is setting the precedent for a national emergency on guns. What goes around comes around.

we have 20,000 gun laws. The problem we have is that the democrat party, in control of many of our larger cities, refuses to keep violent, gun criminals locked up, and even fights to get the prison sentences of known, violent gun offenders reduced....why is that? Why does the democrat party keep letting the killers out of jail over and over again...that is the real problem.

Meanwhile, over the last 26 years as more Americans own and actually carry guns, our gun murder rate went down 49%....how do you, doofus....explain that?

Do you realize that Mexico has more extreme gun control than the United States? that they have only one gun store run by the military? And that the murder rate in Mexico, with their extreme gun control is in the 10s of thousands every year, right on the other side of the border, in the border states of Mexico....so nothing you posted in those photos is even remotely accurate or true....

 

[P@triot]

Trump is setting the precedent for a national emergency on guns. What goes around comes around.

Fascinating...considering you’ve been crying like a little girl about firearms for at least 7 years now - while Trump has only been President for 2 years. Oops.

 

[P@triot]

Trump is setting the precedent for a national emergency on guns. What goes around comes around.

Do you realize that Mexico has more extreme gun control than the United States? And that the murder rate in Mexico, with their extreme gun control is in the 10s of thousands every year, right on the other side of the border, in the border states of Mexico....so nothing you posted in those photos is even remotely accurate or true....

Nothing she ever posts is accurate or true. Ever. She’s a typical left-wing propagandist.

 

[P@triot]

If everyone was armed, there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer lies from politicians.

How is that working in Chicago?

Exactly. Chicago banned firearms. You should really do your homework before commenting.

 

[danielpalos]

If everyone was armed, there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer lies from politicians.

How is that working in Chicago?

Exactly. Chicago banned firearms. You should really do your homework before commenting.

did they muster the militia until the crime problem goes down?

 

[P@triot]

If everyone was armed, there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer lies from politicians.

How is that working in Chicago?

Exactly. Chicago banned firearms. You should really do your homework before commenting.

did they muster the militia until the crime problem goes down?

Yep. But...unfortunately...they had already disarmed their own militia (the people). Yep. You people really are that stupid.

 

[danielpalos]

If everyone was armed, there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer lies from politicians.

How is that working in Chicago?

Exactly. Chicago banned firearms. You should really do your homework before commenting.

did they muster the militia until the crime problem goes down?

Yep. But...unfortunately...they had already disarmed their own militia (the people). Yep. You people really are that stupid.

only the unorganized militia whines about gun control laws.

 

[P@triot]

If everyone was armed, there would be a lot less crime and a lot fewer lies from politicians.

How is that working in Chicago?

Exactly. Chicago banned firearms. You should really do your homework before commenting.

did they muster the militia until the crime problem goes down?

Yep. But...unfortunately...they had already disarmed their own militia (the people). Yep. You people really are that stupid.

only the unorganized militia whines about gun control laws.

Oops! Realizing how stupid you sound now, uh? The Chicago militia has been unarmed. They are helpless to do anything against crime.

 

[danielpalos]

How is that working in Chicago?

Exactly. Chicago banned firearms. You should really do your homework before commenting.

did they muster the militia until the crime problem goes down?

Yep. But...unfortunately...they had already disarmed their own militia (the people). Yep. You people really are that stupid.

only the unorganized militia whines about gun control laws.

Oops! Realizing how stupid you sound now, uh? The Chicago militia has been unarmed. They are helpless to do anything against crime.

They could petition to organize more militia until there are no security problems.

 

[P@triot]

They could petition to organize more militia until there are no security problems.

4,000 unarmed people are just as useless and ineffective as 400 unarmed people. All you're doing is proposing more targets and victims for the criminals.

 

[danielpalos]

They could petition to organize more militia until there are no security problems.

4,000 unarmed people are just as useless and ineffective as 400 unarmed people. All you're doing is proposing more targets and victims for the criminals.

Organized militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment and don't whine about gun control laws.

 

[Lakhota]

The NRA is in deep financial trouble. Also, maybe even criminal trouble involving Russians.

 

[danielpalos]

cute redheads,

whatever shall we do?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

NRA RUNNING LOW ON AMMO?

2018 Was A Bad Year For The NRA, And The Worst Could Be Yet To Come

Fuck the NRA. It was once a good outfit until hijacked by radicals in 1977.

And Hillary is gonna win by a landslide in 2020

 

[Daryl Hunt]

NRA RUNNING LOW ON AMMO?

2018 Was A Bad Year For The NRA, And The Worst Could Be Yet To Come

Fuck the NRA. It was once a good outfit until hijacked by radicals in 1977.

And Hillary is gonna win by a landslide in 2020

Is that the best you can do? Of course it is. Try being more creative. That horse is so dead and beaten, it's just a blood stain on the ground.