The Siege of Crimea has Begun

do you agree that nobody ( no country ) has recognized moscow occupation of Crimea ? and never will ?
moscow, the city, is occupying Crimea?

Everyone recognizes that the Russian Fleet has been anchored at Crimea for over since early in the last century, some say the Russian Fleet has made Crimea their home port for 250 years.

Democrats with their RINO comrades, always starting wars.
 
moscow, the city, is occupying Crimea?

Everyone recognizes that the Russian Fleet has been anchored at Crimea for over since early in the last century, some say the Russian Fleet has made Crimea their home port for 250 years.

Democrats with their RINO comrades, always starting wars.
Russia leased the port from Ukraine, until its annexation in 2014. Access to the port is considered one of the main factors that sparked the 2014 Crimean crisis between Ukraine and Russia, and Russia's subsequent military intervention on Crimea.


By leasing the port from Ukraine, Russia acknowledged that Crimea belonged to Ukraine. Russia is just a gangster state that has no place among civilized people.
 
any comment on this ?


I've seen this too, my impression is that the video is not recent. Mainly because of how people are dressed. The videos coming out of Kherson, everyone is bundled up in winter coats and hats, etc. The people in this video are dressed for a mild summer evening.

Assuming it is Yalta, it still illustrates the people in Crimea were viewing themselves as Ukrainian (or at least held no hostility towards Ukraine).

Kherson is in it's 3rd day of celebration and hasn't let up. Everywhere the AFU goes they are greeted the same way. Anyone who thinks Kherson voted 97% to join Russia is full of shit.
 
if Russia believed Crimea was going to be taken from them, he believed they would use nukes. (of course that would also be true of an attack on Russia.)
cheap RT.ru propaganda from THE SECOND CLASS MOSCOW PROPAGANDACONDOM

THE REALITY :


United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 was adopted on 27 March 2014 by the sixty-eighth session of the United Nations General Assembly in response to the Russian annexation of Crimea and entitled "territorial integrity of Ukraine". ...., affirmed the General Assembly's commitment to the territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and underscored the invalidity of the 2014 Crimean referendum.
 
I've seen this too, my impression is that the video is not recent. Mainly because of how people are dressed. The videos coming out of Kherson, everyone is bundled up in winter coats and hats, etc. The people in this video are dressed for a mild summer evening.

Assuming it is Yalta, it still illustrates the people in Crimea were viewing themselves as Ukrainian (or at least held no hostility towards Ukraine).

Kherson is in it's 3rd day of celebration and hasn't let up. Everywhere the AFU goes they are greeted the same way. Anyone who thinks Kherson voted 97% to join Russia is full of shit.
+ Crimean NATIVES 100% SUPPORT KYIV , AND HATE MOSCOW HORDE

 
Russia leased the port from Ukraine, until its annexation in 2014. Access to the port is considered one of the main factors that sparked the 2014 Crimean crisis between Ukraine and Russia, and Russia's subsequent military intervention on Crimea.


By leasing the port from Ukraine, Russia acknowledged that Crimea belonged to Ukraine. Russia is just a gangster state that has no place among civilized people.
You wish to start a war over Russia's largest naval base? If you were Russia, you would allow the USA to take over Russia's most sophisticated naval base.

If you were Russia, you would allow the USA to take over their port, and thus have the world's most sophisticated military, sitting at the gateway to Russia?

Biden and his ineptness started this war. We are fighting a proxy war through the Ukraine against Russia. If there is a negotiated end to this conflict, we will end up having to build up a military much larger than we currently have based in Korea, and that military will have to remain in the Ukraine, forever!

Yes, Russia is the, "gangsta". Yes Russia has no place among the civilized people. The Democrats are also gangstas and have no place in the civilized world.

The Democratic party and all their political leaders, from the White House to the Pentagon, have really created a mess in the Ukraine. Secretary of State Antony Blinken signed a “strategic partnership” with Ukraine last November, now we are facing the beginning of World War III with a Russia, a nuclear power.
 
You wish to start a war over Russia's largest naval base? If you were Russia, you would allow the USA to take over Russia's most sophisticated naval base.

If you were Russia, you would allow the USA to take over their port, and thus have the world's most sophisticated military, sitting at the gateway to Russia?

Biden and his ineptness started this war. We are fighting a proxy war through the Ukraine against Russia. If there is a negotiated end to this conflict, we will end up having to build up a military much larger than we currently have based in Korea, and that military will have to remain in the Ukraine, forever!

Yes, Russia is the, "gangsta". Yes Russia has no place among the civilized people. The Democrats are also gangstas and have no place in the civilized world.

The Democratic party and all their political leaders, from the White House to the Pentagon, have really created a mess in the Ukraine. Secretary of State Antony Blinken signed a “strategic partnership” with Ukraine last November, now we are facing the beginning of World War III with a Russia, a nuclear power.
Ther is no rational basis for claiming the US started this war or that the US wanted a naval base in the Black Sea or that Ukraine was about to join NATO or posed any kind of threat to Russia. This war is about Russian imperialism and Russian barbarism and nothing else.

And the word is gangster, not gangsta. There is nothing cool about what Russia is doing.
 
There is no rational basis for claiming the US started this war or that the US wanted a naval base in the Black Sea or that Ukraine was about to join NATO or posed any kind of threat to Russia. This war is about Russian imperialism and Russian barbarism and nothing else.

And the word is gangster, not gangsta. There is nothing cool about what Russia is doing.
That is your opinion, that there is no rational basis. All I did was present facts. You can believe we did not provoke Russia, but you can not dispute the facts.

The USA is apparently, moving into the Black Sea, where the Russian Fleet has been stationed over a 100 years
The United States and Ukraine are key partners in the broader Black Sea region and will seek to deepen cooperation with Black Sea Allies and partners to ensure freedom of navigation and effectively counter external threats and challenges in all domains

The Democratic party, seems to have made a bold move, bringing NATO to Russia's doorstep
The United States remains committed to assisting Ukraine with ongoing defense and security reforms and to continuing its robust training and exercises. The United States supports Ukraine’s efforts to maximize its status as a NATO Enhanced Opportunities Partner to promote interoperability.

This war is about nothing else, except Russian Imperialism?
The United States and Ukraine intend to support accountability for those responsible for abuses of human rights in the territories of Ukraine temporarily occupied by Russia, and to support the release of political prisoners and hostages held in these territories. The United States intends to continue to support impartial criminal investigations conducted by war crimes units under the Office of the General Prosecutor

Sounds to me, like the USA is very much moving into the Ukraine, destroying any Russian influence
The United States is committed to the energy security of Ukraine and intends to support Ukraine’s efforts to become energy independent, decarbonize its economy, deregulate its energy sector, diversify energy supplies, integrate with Europe’s energy grid, modernize its nuclear sector, manage a just transition from coal, and prevent the Kremlin’s use of energy as a geopolitical weapon. The Strategic Energy and Climate Dialogue is designed to accelerate these efforts.

Start a war, we did, with the weakest United States Democratic leadership in our history

 
You wish to start a war over Russia's largest naval base? If you were Russia, you would allow the USA to take over Russia's most sophisticated naval base.

If you were Russia, you would allow the USA to take over their port, and thus have the world's most sophisticated military, sitting at the gateway to Russia?

Biden and his ineptness started this war. We are fighting a proxy war through the Ukraine against Russia.


The US has had the intent of destroying Russia since the end of the Soviet Era. Carter was right that you are the most warmongering people the world has ever known. This was of course an opportunity to allow for a time of peace but the US went the opposite way and we in the UK are always there too.


If there is a negotiated end to this conflict, we will end up having to build up a military much larger than we currently have based in Korea, and that military will have to remain in the Ukraine, forever!

You have built a military base in Poland. It is one hundred miles from Russia which I hear is about the same distance as Cuba to the US. You do not have nukes there yet but you have created the situation where Russia will never know if you are going to attack them. Of course you are going to go after China as well.
Yes, Russia is the, "gangsta". Yes Russia has no place among the civilized people. The Democrats are also gangstas and have no place in the civilized world.

The Democratic party and all their political leaders, from the White House to the Pentagon, have really created a mess in the Ukraine. Secretary of State Antony Blinken signed a “strategic partnership” with Ukraine last November, now we are facing the beginning of World War III with a Russia, a nuclear power.

That could easily be so. Unfortunately, we do not have a Kennedy in the white house now. We have people who so believe they are better than everyone else that they do not even respect nuclear powers wrongly believing that because it is MAD it will never happen. If Russia feels it may be destroyed then it is supposed to use its nukes. Destroying its black sea port could easily be seen by Russia to be just that.
 
That is your opinion, that there is no rational basis. All I did was present facts. You can believe we did not provoke Russia, but you can not dispute the facts.

The USA is apparently, moving into the Black Sea, where the Russian Fleet has been stationed over a 100 years


The Democratic party, seems to have made a bold move, bringing NATO to Russia's doorstep


This war is about nothing else, except Russian Imperialism?


Sounds to me, like the USA is very much moving into the Ukraine, destroying any Russian influence


Start a war, we did, with the weakest United States Democratic leadership in our history

You have presented no facts. The document you linked simply says the US will support Ukraine is fighting against Russian aggression and in its efforts to build a strong democracy and economy.

First fact, the US is not at war with Russia; it is simply providing aid to Ukraine to resist the Russian invasion. If the US were in the war, the Russian army in Ukraine would have been destroyed months ago.

Russia does not own the Black Sea. In fact the Russian fleet in the Black Sea is far inferior to the much larger Turkish fleet there and US and European ships have for many years sailed through the Black Sea.

Russia has no special rights in the Black Sea and no special rights in Ukraine. Your argument comes down to a staunch defense of Russian imperialism, which is exactly what I said. Again, you have shown there is no rational basis for claiming the US is at war with Russia or that the US provoked the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
 

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