The truth about Truman’s bombing Japan

[gipper]

the only acceptable way to fight a War is TOTAL War , --- just a comment .

------------------------------------------------ you sound like 'islamic state' or 'isis' as they at times look for Truces and the end of War and hostility when they are losing . Best thing to do when the enemy is losing is to Crush the enemy totally Gipper , [no quarter for the enemy Gipper]

Japan knew of & expected serious retaliation for Pearl Harbor and I surely wouldn't call them defenseless.



I just don't think anyone expected such destruction

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Why do some Americans think total war is acceptable?

What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Yeah... the only option is total war. LMFAO.

Well done! Dodging the issue!

Come on, step up!
What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Hey Statists, why can’t you answer my question? What base did the abombs fly out of?

Was it Iwo Jima or Okinawa?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Okinawa

One of the bloodiest battles of the Pacific War was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945, for the island of Okinawa. The Americans wanted the island at the southern tip of Japan to create a base for air raids on Japan as well as to “rehearse” for the planned invasion of Japan’s main islands. However, they met a fierce resistance. By June 22, the U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.

List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists

Right. The Japanese were all but helpless, only being able to inflict 50,000 American casualties in the last battle that they fought against us. I am sure that Gipper would have preferred to have had a go at them himself.

What a terrible waste, when the Japanese government sought surrender terms well before Okinawa. They only asked for guarantees that the Emperor wouldn’t be hung.

Funny thing...after Truman incinerated thousands of defenseless women and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, he granted the Japanese their one and only demand. Sick fuck!

Thirdly, Okinawa was entirely unnecessary. The US air forces had been mass murdering Japanese civilians from the air for months beforehand, and could have easily continued the slaughter without Okinawa. Just another lie by the mass murdering statists.

Question for statists...was Okinawa used to launch the abombs?

Uncomfortable truths for silly murderous statists.

Again for the criminally STUPID, at no time did the GOVERNMENT of Japan offer to surrender. I have the documents all that happened was a couple Naval reps offered to discuss surrender, at NO TIME did the Navy CONTROL the Government during these supposed offers. And actually what they offered was a ceasefire with return to 41 start lines everywhere EXCEPT China. The links provided even show that the Army NEVER offered to surrender, you remember them right? They CONTROLLED the Government.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Okinawa

One of the bloodiest battles of the Pacific War was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945, for the island of Okinawa. The Americans wanted the island at the southern tip of Japan to create a base for air raids on Japan as well as to “rehearse” for the planned invasion of Japan’s main islands. However, they met a fierce resistance. By June 22, the U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.

List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists

Right. The Japanese were all but helpless, only being able to inflict 50,000 American casualties in the last battle that they fought against us. I am sure that Gipper would have preferred to have had a go at them himself.

What a terrible waste, when the Japanese government sought surrender terms well before Okinawa. They only asked for guarantees that the Emperor wouldn’t be hung.

Funny thing...after Truman incinerated thousands of defenseless women and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, he granted the Japanese their one and only demand. Sick fuck!

Thirdly, Okinawa was entirely unnecessary. The US air forces had been mass murdering Japanese civilians from the air for months beforehand, and could have easily continued the slaughter without Okinawa. Just another lie by the mass murdering statists.

Question for statists...was Okinawa used to launch the abombs?

Uncomfortable truths for silly murderous statists.

Revisionist history. at the time they were also demanding no occupation, no war crime trials held by the victors, and that they disarm themselves without outside observation.

Be specific. What in my post is wrong?

That they only asked about the Emperor's life as a negotiating point. Even up to the first bombing the military wanted no occupation, no war crimes trial, and self-disarmament as conditions of a conditional surrender.

Okay you just proved you aren’t informed.

Wrong shall I link again to the SOURCE documents?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

the only acceptable way to fight a War is TOTAL War , --- just a comment .

------------------------------------------------ you sound like 'islamic state' or 'isis' as they at times look for Truces and the end of War and hostility when they are losing . Best thing to do when the enemy is losing is to Crush the enemy totally Gipper , [no quarter for the enemy Gipper]

Japan knew of & expected serious retaliation for Pearl Harbor and I surely wouldn't call them defenseless.



I just don't think anyone expected such destruction

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Why do some Americans think total war is acceptable?

What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Yeah... the only option is total war. LMFAO.

Well done! Dodging the issue!

Come on, step up!
What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Hey Statists, why can’t you answer my question? What base did the abombs fly out of?

Was it Iwo Jima or Okinawa?

They need Iwo Jima for FIGHTER cover and to recover damaged bombers retard and Okinawa was a lead up to the invasion of a Home Island not fr bases to bomb from.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II: A Collection of Primary Sources for the truly IGNORANT

 

[gipper]

the only acceptable way to fight a War is TOTAL War , --- just a comment .

------------------------------------------------ you sound like 'islamic state' or 'isis' as they at times look for Truces and the end of War and hostility when they are losing . Best thing to do when the enemy is losing is to Crush the enemy totally Gipper , [no quarter for the enemy Gipper]

Japan knew of & expected serious retaliation for Pearl Harbor and I surely wouldn't call them defenseless.



I just don't think anyone expected such destruction

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Why do some Americans think total war is acceptable?

What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Yeah... the only option is total war. LMFAO.

Well done! Dodging the issue!

Come on, step up!
What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Hey Statists, why can’t you answer my question? What base did the abombs fly out of?

Was it Iwo Jima or Okinawa?

They need Iwo Jima for FIGHTER cover and to recover damaged bombers retard and Okinawa was a lead up to the invasion of a Home Island not fr bases to bomb from.

Hey Retard, once again you prove you are uninformed. By 1945, the Japanese had little to no fighter aircraft left. US bombers often flew missions in 1945, without any fighter escort. Plus they often flew at night, when no fighter escort was needed.

Damnit dude. Learn for once.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

the only acceptable way to fight a War is TOTAL War , --- just a comment .

------------------------------------------------ you sound like 'islamic state' or 'isis' as they at times look for Truces and the end of War and hostility when they are losing . Best thing to do when the enemy is losing is to Crush the enemy totally Gipper , [no quarter for the enemy Gipper]

Japan knew of & expected serious retaliation for Pearl Harbor and I surely wouldn't call them defenseless.



I just don't think anyone expected such destruction

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Yeah... the only option is total war. LMFAO.

Well done! Dodging the issue!

Come on, step up!
What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Hey Statists, why can’t you answer my question? What base did the abombs fly out of?

Was it Iwo Jima or Okinawa?

They need Iwo Jima for FIGHTER cover and to recover damaged bombers retard and Okinawa was a lead up to the invasion of a Home Island not fr bases to bomb from.

Hey Retard, once again you prove you are uninformed. By 1945, the Japanese had little to no fighter aircraft left. US bombers often flew missions in 1945, without any fighter escort. Plus they often flew at night, when no fighter escort was needed.

Damnit dude. Learn for once.

Dumb ass the Japanese had thousands of planes they were flying suicide missions on Okinawa with them but ya according to you they had none, right and I shoud learn history, you keep pedaling lies misinformation and stupidity. You have NO LINK to an actual offer of peace from the GOVERNMENT of Japan during WW2, because it NEVER happened.

 

[Markle]

Silly.

Our debate here is about Japan specifically. Prior to Truman’s war crime, Japan had no navy or air forces. Their army was essentially destroyed and their best fighting men dead.

Now compare that with the armed forces of the USA. Do you comprehend or do I need to spell it out?

Why do you find it necessary to lie about World War II?

 

[gipper]

Okinawa

One of the bloodiest battles of the Pacific War was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945, for the island of Okinawa. The Americans wanted the island at the southern tip of Japan to create a base for air raids on Japan as well as to “rehearse” for the planned invasion of Japan’s main islands. However, they met a fierce resistance. By June 22, the U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.

List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists

Right. The Japanese were all but helpless, only being able to inflict 50,000 American casualties in the last battle that they fought against us. I am sure that Gipper would have preferred to have had a go at them himself.

What a terrible waste, when the Japanese government sought surrender terms well before Okinawa. They only asked for guarantees that the Emperor wouldn’t be hung.

Funny thing...after Truman incinerated thousands of defenseless women and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, he granted the Japanese their one and only demand. Sick fuck!

Thirdly, Okinawa was entirely unnecessary. The US air forces had been mass murdering Japanese civilians from the air for months beforehand, and could have easily continued the slaughter without Okinawa. Just another lie by the mass murdering statists.

Question for statists...was Okinawa used to launch the abombs?

Uncomfortable truths for silly murderous statists.

Again for the criminally STUPID, at no time did the GOVERNMENT of Japan offer to surrender. I have the documents all that happened was a couple Naval reps offered to discuss surrender, at NO TIME did the Navy CONTROL the Government during these supposed offers. And actually what they offered was a ceasefire with return to 41 start lines everywhere EXCEPT China. The links provided even show that the Army NEVER offered to surrender, you remember them right? They CONTROLLED the Government.

They offered to surrender several times, but with conditions. Statists like you think they must surrender unconditionally, or you will murder them.

If only you were capable of thinking rather then robotically spouting the US government’s lies.

 

[gipper]

Silly.

Our debate here is about Japan specifically. Prior to Truman’s war crime, Japan had no navy or air forces. Their army was essentially destroyed and their best fighting men dead.

Now compare that with the armed forces of the USA. Do you comprehend or do I need to spell it out?

Why do you find it necessary to lie about World War II?

Was it Orwell who said truth is lies and lies are truth?

You will do well in our Orwellian future.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Okinawa

One of the bloodiest battles of the Pacific War was fought from April 1 to June 22, 1945, for the island of Okinawa. The Americans wanted the island at the southern tip of Japan to create a base for air raids on Japan as well as to “rehearse” for the planned invasion of Japan’s main islands. However, they met a fierce resistance. By June 22, the U.S. troops suffered nearly 50,000 casualties of which approximately one quarter were deaths. The Japanese, on the other hand, lost about 100,000 of 110,000 men. The largest amphibious campaign of the Pacific War also claimed heavy civilian casualties as an estimated 100,000 civilians were killed by the end of the campaign. According to many historians, the Battle of Okinawa had a major influence on the US decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as it clearly revealed that the invasion of Japan would claim huge casualties on both sides.

List of 10 Greatest Battles of the Pacific War - History Lists

Right. The Japanese were all but helpless, only being able to inflict 50,000 American casualties in the last battle that they fought against us. I am sure that Gipper would have preferred to have had a go at them himself.

What a terrible waste, when the Japanese government sought surrender terms well before Okinawa. They only asked for guarantees that the Emperor wouldn’t be hung.

Funny thing...after Truman incinerated thousands of defenseless women and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, he granted the Japanese their one and only demand. Sick fuck!

Thirdly, Okinawa was entirely unnecessary. The US air forces had been mass murdering Japanese civilians from the air for months beforehand, and could have easily continued the slaughter without Okinawa. Just another lie by the mass murdering statists.

Question for statists...was Okinawa used to launch the abombs?

Uncomfortable truths for silly murderous statists.

Again for the criminally STUPID, at no time did the GOVERNMENT of Japan offer to surrender. I have the documents all that happened was a couple Naval reps offered to discuss surrender, at NO TIME did the Navy CONTROL the Government during these supposed offers. And actually what they offered was a ceasefire with return to 41 start lines everywhere EXCEPT China. The links provided even show that the Army NEVER offered to surrender, you remember them right? They CONTROLLED the Government.

They offered to surrender several times, but with conditions. Statists like you think they must surrender unconditionally, or you will murder them.

If only you were capable of thinking rather then robotically spouting the US government’s lies.

They, they being the naval element of the Japanese Government, an element that did NOT control the Government, offered a ceasefire a return to 41 start lines except in China and no occupation. The Army which DID control the Government NEVER offered anything, even after 2 atomic bombs all they offered was a cease fire and no occupation. And when the Emperor overruled them they staged a Coup to stop HIM.

 

[gipper]

the only acceptable way to fight a War is TOTAL War , --- just a comment .

------------------------------------------------ you sound like 'islamic state' or 'isis' as they at times look for Truces and the end of War and hostility when they are losing . Best thing to do when the enemy is losing is to Crush the enemy totally Gipper , [no quarter for the enemy Gipper]

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Yeah... the only option is total war. LMFAO.

Well done! Dodging the issue!

Come on, step up!
What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Hey Statists, why can’t you answer my question? What base did the abombs fly out of?

Was it Iwo Jima or Okinawa?

They need Iwo Jima for FIGHTER cover and to recover damaged bombers retard and Okinawa was a lead up to the invasion of a Home Island not fr bases to bomb from.

Hey Retard, once again you prove you are uninformed. By 1945, the Japanese had little to no fighter aircraft left. US bombers often flew missions in 1945, without any fighter escort. Plus they often flew at night, when no fighter escort was needed.

Damnit dude. Learn for once.

Dumb ass the Japanese had thousands of planes they were flying suicide missions on Okinawa with them but ya according to you they had none, right and I shoud learn history, you keep pedaling lies misinformation and stupidity. You have NO LINK to an actual offer of peace from the GOVERNMENT of Japan during WW2, because it NEVER happened.

Are you aware that those Kamikaze pilots NEVER posed a threat to US bombers? I would guess not, considering your high level of your retardation.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

------------------------------------------------ you sound like 'islamic state' or 'isis' as they at times look for Truces and the end of War and hostility when they are losing . Best thing to do when the enemy is losing is to Crush the enemy totally Gipper , [no quarter for the enemy Gipper]

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Well done! Dodging the issue!

Come on, step up!
What are the options? Another war in 20-25 years or less. See WW-I.

Hey Statists, why can’t you answer my question? What base did the abombs fly out of?

Was it Iwo Jima or Okinawa?

They need Iwo Jima for FIGHTER cover and to recover damaged bombers retard and Okinawa was a lead up to the invasion of a Home Island not fr bases to bomb from.

Hey Retard, once again you prove you are uninformed. By 1945, the Japanese had little to no fighter aircraft left. US bombers often flew missions in 1945, without any fighter escort. Plus they often flew at night, when no fighter escort was needed.

Damnit dude. Learn for once.

Dumb ass the Japanese had thousands of planes they were flying suicide missions on Okinawa with them but ya according to you they had none, right and I shoud learn history, you keep pedaling lies misinformation and stupidity. You have NO LINK to an actual offer of peace from the GOVERNMENT of Japan during WW2, because it NEVER happened.

Are you aware that those Kamikaze pilots NEVER posed a threat to US bombers? I would guess not, considering your high level of your retardation.

Unlike you I actually KNOW my history I did not learn false info and propaganda from biased sources, as for FACTS I posted SOURCE DOCUMENTS that prove you are full of SHIT.

 

[gipper]

Hey Statists, why can’t you answer my question? What base did the abombs fly out of?

Was it Iwo Jima or Okinawa?

They need Iwo Jima for FIGHTER cover and to recover damaged bombers retard and Okinawa was a lead up to the invasion of a Home Island not fr bases to bomb from.

Hey Retard, once again you prove you are uninformed. By 1945, the Japanese had little to no fighter aircraft left. US bombers often flew missions in 1945, without any fighter escort. Plus they often flew at night, when no fighter escort was needed.

Damnit dude. Learn for once.

Dumb ass the Japanese had thousands of planes they were flying suicide missions on Okinawa with them but ya according to you they had none, right and I shoud learn history, you keep pedaling lies misinformation and stupidity. You have NO LINK to an actual offer of peace from the GOVERNMENT of Japan during WW2, because it NEVER happened.

Are you aware that those Kamikaze pilots NEVER posed a threat to US bombers? I would guess not, considering your high level of your retardation.

Unlike you I actually KNOW my history I did not learn false info and propaganda from biased sources, as for FACTS I posted SOURCE DOCUMENTS that prove you are full of SHIT.

You clearly know only what Uncle told you. Too bad. Ignorance is always a terrible thing.

 

[gipper]

Silly.

Our debate here is about Japan specifically. Prior to Truman’s war crime, Japan had no navy or air forces. Their army was essentially destroyed and their best fighting men dead.

Now compare that with the armed forces of the USA. Do you comprehend or do I need to spell it out?

Why do you find it necessary to lie about World War II?

Read Orwell, if you can.

 

[Markle]

What a terrible waste, when the Japanese government sought surrender terms well before Okinawa. They only asked for guarantees that the Emperor wouldn’t be hung.

Funny thing...after Truman incinerated thousands of defenseless women and children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, he granted the Japanese their one and only demand. Sick fuck!

Thirdly, Okinawa was entirely unnecessary. The US air forces had been mass murdering Japanese civilians from the air for months beforehand, and could have easily continued the slaughter without Okinawa. Just another lie by the mass murdering statists.

Question for statists...was Okinawa used to launch the abombs?

Uncomfortable truths for silly murderous statists.

Revisionist history. at the time they were also demanding no occupation, no war crime trials held by the victors, and that they disarm themselves without outside observation.

Be specific. What in my post is wrong?

That they only asked about the Emperor's life as a negotiating point. Even up to the first bombing the military wanted no occupation, no war crimes trial, and self-disarmament as conditions of a conditional surrender.

Okay you just proved you aren’t informed.

It's well documented that the military held out with those demands until the Emperor overrode them AFTER the Nagasaki bomb.

That you choose to ignore this, and proceed with a version of history that suits your axe to grind shows you are just as dishonest as the lefties on this board.

Wrong that’s just what the government told you and they always lie.

Wow, you really are either grossly uninformed OR simply a TROLL!

 

[gipper]

Hey Statists, did you know the B-29 that delivered Truman’s war crimes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, flew all the f-ing way from the Northern Mariana Islands.

That’s strange, no? Uncle claims all those American boys who died on Iwo Jima and Okinawa did so, so bombers could reach the home islands.

Yep, just another lie by Uncle, but statists don’t know it.

 

[gipper]

Japan knew of & expected serious retaliation for Pearl Harbor and I surely wouldn't call them defenseless.



I just don't think anyone expected such destruction

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Both battles were entirely unnecessary. Japan asked for surrender terms when Stalin’s Stooge was still living. He said, “unconditional surrender you slanty eyed fuckers.” This resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides.

Amazing many Americans think this acceptable.

The bombing of Pearl Harbor was unnecessary. After that.......well, attacking the USA has consequences.

You seem to be extremely confused. You must be a Democrat.

Yep that is the thinking of the dumb American. You bomb a military base killing relatively few MILITARY PERSONNEL, and we will mass murder hundreds of thousands of your civilians.

Makes sense to the dumb statist.

 

[Markle]

Japan knew of & expected serious retaliation for Pearl Harbor and I surely wouldn't call them defenseless.

I just don't think anyone expected such destruction

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Both battles were entirely unnecessary. Japan asked for surrender terms when Stalin’s Stooge was still living. He said, “unconditional surrender you slanty eyed fuckers.” This resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides.

Amazing many Americans think this acceptable.

EVEN HONORABLE.

CRAZY!!!!

Thank you! Proving that you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

You're talking to yourself.

 

[gipper]

Japan knew of & expected serious retaliation for Pearl Harbor and I surely wouldn't call them defenseless.

I just don't think anyone expected such destruction

By 1945, they were a defenseless nation. Please keep up.

The battles on Iwo Jima and Okinawa were fought in 1945. The Japanese were not defenseless, but you are an idiot.

Both battles were entirely unnecessary. Japan asked for surrender terms when Stalin’s Stooge was still living. He said, “unconditional surrender you slanty eyed fuckers.” This resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides.

Amazing many Americans think this acceptable.

EVEN HONORABLE.

CRAZY!!!!

Thank you! Proving that you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

You're talking to yourself.

Trying to educate you, but I see I have failed. Overcoming statist indoctrination is a tough task. I did my best.