The US could Save $5.6B a year if it Switched from Coal to Solar – study

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With solar, more is absorbed.

Yes. The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

 

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Hey, look, I moved 100 watts out of the refridgerator. The planet is cooler.
Hey, look, I moved 100 watts out of the solar farm. The planet is cooler.

Hilarious!

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

100 watts hit the bare surface, 30 watts bounce back into space. 70 watts heat the planet.

100 watts hit the panel, 5 watts bounce back into space. 95 watts heat the planet.

Move it around the planet all you want, you're still 25 watts warmer.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you don't know that you shouldn't be having this discussion.

You should run away, instead of explaining further. LOL!

 

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100 watts hit the bare surface, 30 watts bounce back into space. 70 watts heat the planet.

100 watts hit the panel, 5 watts bounce back into space. 95 watts heat the planet.

Move it around the planet all you want, you're still 25 watts warmer.

That's nice. But it has nothing to do with the incremental cooling effect of solar panels.

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Incorrect. That would be you.

What half of the system could I be claiming you ignored?

 

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You should run away, instead of explaining further. LOL!

Can you make me?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's not my claim. It's been measured.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356860141_Direct_impact_of_solar_farm_deployment_on_surface_longwave_radiation

You should post more studies that only look at half the system.
That's very convincing.

 

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What half of the system could I be claiming you ignored?

According to you it's waste heat. But that's your rabbit hole. Incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why?

So you'll be running away from that claim as well? DURR

 

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You should post more studies that only look at half the system.
That's very convincing.

You seem upset.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's an incremental comparison. With solar panels and without solar panels. So, no. It doesn't mean that.

It's an incremental comparison.

95% absorbed versus 70% absorbed.

 

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So you'll be running away from that claim as well? DURR

Doesn't answer my question. Why?

 

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It's an incremental comparison.

95% absorbed versus 70% absorbed.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

And turned into heat later.

 

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The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells.

And turned into heat later.

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's nice. But it has nothing to do with the incremental cooling effect of solar panels.

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

But it has nothing to do with the incremental cooling effect of solar panels.

The farm can be as cool as the inside of your fridge. The heat still comes out the other side.

 

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But it has nothing to do with the incremental cooling effect of solar panels.

The farm can be as cool as the inside of your fridge. The heat still comes out the other side.

Again... incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar. Electricity usage and what waste heat there is stays the same regardless of the generating source. But solar radiation absorbed by the surface of the planet is different depending upon the generating source.

The decreased albedo led to photons being converted into electricity not more heat being radiated by PV cells. That's why they measured cooler temperatures above six solar farms.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Can you make me?

I can only laugh while you do.

 

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I can only laugh while you do.

So your answer is no.