The USA is the greatest country in the history of the world !

[gipper]

Yes, the migrants are happier, but there is not enough to them to move the bar...why is that so hard for you to grasp?

Migrant happiness is an indication of migrant acceptance which is an indicator of national happiness. Was the trail of breadcrumbs too faint? Anyway, to what countries do you refer? Canada, Australia, New Zealand? Too, you could link to cites that show your assertion that migrant populations in those countries are too small to be meaningful is valid. How small is that, anyway?

The breadcrumbs were sucked up by the bullshit cleaner.


Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Austria
Switzerland

Donald Jeffries sums up America....

American industry has been gutted, with wages and benefits stagnant or reduced, thanks to a disastrous trade deals, outsourcing, and the crippling of unions. The Occupy Wall Street movement, and the presidential campaigns of both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, reveals how more and more people who are struggling understand that the system is rigged against them.

While Americans have been trained to direct their scorn at welfare recipients and the poor in general, a tiny handful of plutocratic elites have profited on an unfathomable scale through corporate welfare and other perks. Unimaginable salaries and bonuses for the One Percent, contrasted by layoffs and reduced pay for the majority of the workforce, along with increasing calls for austerity measures and lowered standards of living, has become the “new normal” in America.

Survival of the Richest

 

[cnm]

The breadcrumbs were sucked up by the bullshit cleaner.


Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Austria
Switzerland

Yet no facts given, merely bald assertions. I'd have thought 11% to be meaningful. You? And that was then, I bet it's greater now.

According to Eurostat, in 2010 there were 1,800,000 foreign-born residents in the Netherlands, corresponding to 11.1% of the total population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_Netherlands#Migration_and_ethnicity​

 

[cnm]

For comparison...So is 13% meaningful and 11% insignificant?

What Percentage of U.S. Population Is Foreign Born?

Oct 3, 2013In 2013, over 40 million foreign-born representing 13% of the population resided in the United States. In the midst of a government shutdown, House Democrats introduced their comprehensive ...​

 

[Harpy Eagle]

For comparison...So is 13% meaningful and 11% insignificant?

What Percentage of U.S. Population Is Foreign Born?

Oct 3, 2013In 2013, over 40 million foreign-born representing 13% of the population resided in the United States. In the midst of a government shutdown, House Democrats introduced their comprehensive ...​

neither are meaningful.

 

[Correll]

The Soviet Union is an historical fact. The threat from them was enough to unify the vast majority of the rest of Europe under American leadership for 50 years.


That alone, is reason enough to consider that factor valid.

The Soviet Union no longer exist, you might as well argue we are keeping them safe from the Roman Empire.

Except that their current society is still pretty derivative of that time frame.

Do you believe the people of Norway feel threatened?

NOt sure how bringing up "Feelings" is relevant to a discussion of national security. Please explain.

 

[Correll]

Migrants are not inherently good. Accepting bad migrants is not a plus. Counting acceptance of itt as a metric of "greatness" is stupid.

You find my reasoning simplistic? Take a second to compare it to yours. Or your complete lack there of.

Acceptance of migrants is a component of national happiness. A sad country cannot be great. Your sentiments are a clue as to why the US does not score highly in areas such as national happiness, perception of corruption, quality of life, etc., etc..

Acceptance of migrants is not a "happy" if the migrants are a negative for the society.


That you do not distinguish between migrants who contribute to society and those that do not,


is part of the decline of our culture.


But that is another issue, for another day.


In this context, it is enough to point out that acceptance of migrants is NOT a component of national happiness and that any list that claims it is, is bullshit.

Also, greatness is not limited to happy nations. Our nation did great things in WWII, ie fighting against terrible empires and terrible men. Yet, I doubt that any sane list would count the US of 1944 as "happy".

 

[Dr Grump]

THe US is still the greatest nation, despite all the criminal dems.

If great is decided by gdp, prison population, military strength. The US doesn't do so well in categories like quality of life, national happiness, perceived corruption, migrant acceptance, etc., etc..

none of those countries have done more to advance freedom and liberty than the USA ! and many of those countries would not be free today if it weren't for the USA !

Not true. You had a civil war over slavery. The UK stopped slavery without a shot being fired.
NZ was the first country to give women the vote.

 

[Correll]

THe US is still the greatest nation, despite all the criminal dems.

If great is decided by gdp, prison population, military strength. The US doesn't do so well in categories like quality of life, national happiness, perceived corruption, migrant acceptance, etc., etc..

none of those countries have done more to advance freedom and liberty than the USA ! and many of those countries would not be free today if it weren't for the USA !

Not true. You had a civil war over slavery. The UK stopped slavery without a shot being fired.
NZ was the first country to give women the vote.

De-centralization of power, does have it's costs. But that hardly makes empires superior to democracies.

 

[Dr Grump]

THe US is still the greatest nation, despite all the criminal dems.

If great is decided by gdp, prison population, military strength. The US doesn't do so well in categories like quality of life, national happiness, perceived corruption, migrant acceptance, etc., etc..

none of those countries have done more to advance freedom and liberty than the USA ! and many of those countries would not be free today if it weren't for the USA !

Not true. You had a civil war over slavery. The UK stopped slavery without a shot being fired.
NZ was the first country to give women the vote.

De-centralization of power, does have it's costs. But that hardly makes empires superior to democracies.

Who is decentralised?

 

[Correll]

THe US is still the greatest nation, despite all the criminal dems.

If great is decided by gdp, prison population, military strength. The US doesn't do so well in categories like quality of life, national happiness, perceived corruption, migrant acceptance, etc., etc..

none of those countries have done more to advance freedom and liberty than the USA ! and many of those countries would not be free today if it weren't for the USA !

Not true. You had a civil war over slavery. The UK stopped slavery without a shot being fired.
NZ was the first country to give women the vote.

De-centralization of power, does have it's costs. But that hardly makes empires superior to democracies.

Who is decentralised?

The pre-civil war US, was who I was referring to. Per your post.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Soviet Union is an historical fact. The threat from them was enough to unify the vast majority of the rest of Europe under American leadership for 50 years.


That alone, is reason enough to consider that factor valid.

The Soviet Union no longer exist, you might as well argue we are keeping them safe from the Roman Empire.

Except that their current society is still pretty derivative of that time frame.

Do you believe the people of Norway feel threatened?

NOt sure how bringing up "Feelings" is relevant to a discussion of national security. Please explain.

You are claiming that we are keeping them safe from threats that do not exist.

 

[Correll]

The Soviet Union is an historical fact. The threat from them was enough to unify the vast majority of the rest of Europe under American leadership for 50 years.


That alone, is reason enough to consider that factor valid.

The Soviet Union no longer exist, you might as well argue we are keeping them safe from the Roman Empire.

Except that their current society is still pretty derivative of that time frame.

Do you believe the people of Norway feel threatened?

NOt sure how bringing up "Feelings" is relevant to a discussion of national security. Please explain.

You are claiming that we are keeping them safe from threats that do not exist.

Whoa. Have you lost the concept of linear time? NOrmally that is something I only find is extreme liberals.


Please recall that the Cold War is over, BUT, that for a long time, the Soviet Union was a threat and we led the alliance against them. But that our allies were generally paying much less for defense than we did.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Whoa. Have you lost the concept of linear time? NOrmally that is something I only find is extreme liberals.


Please recall that the Cold War is over, BUT, that for a long time, the Soviet Union was a threat and we led the alliance against them. But that our allies were generally paying much less for defense than we did.

Dude, it is 2020...the USSR fell in 1991...you are talking about almost 30 years....get out of the past and live in the now

 

[LeftofLeft]

It imprisons more people than any other country.

Number One!!!

Yet crime is still on the rise.

 

[Correll]

Whoa. Have you lost the concept of linear time? NOrmally that is something I only find is extreme liberals.


Please recall that the Cold War is over, BUT, that for a long time, the Soviet Union was a threat and we led the alliance against them. But that our allies were generally paying much less for defense than we did.

Dude, it is 2020...the USSR fell in 1991...you are talking about almost 30 years....get out of the past and live in the now

So, your not denying the factor, you are just saying it was long ago enough that it does not matter any more?

 

[Dr Grump]

The pre-civil war US, was who I was referring to. Per your post.

Ah roger.

 

[cnm]

In this context, it is enough to point out that acceptance of migrants is NOT a component of national happiness and that any list that claims it is, is bullshit.

Well, as I intimated, sentiments like that go a long way to explaining the US rankings on various measures of 'greatness'.

 

[cnm]

neither are meaningful.

Only if happiness is not meaningful.

 

[cnm]

Please recall that the Cold War is over, BUT, that for a long time, the Soviet Union was a threat and we led the alliance against them.

It may have been a threat to US desires of hegemony, not much else.

 

[cnm]

It imprisons more people than any other country.

Number One!!!

Yet crime is still on the rise.

Another reason it's the greatest!