The War On Drugs

[progressive hunter]

Not sure what you are trying to say. Maybe you should quit beating around the bush and just say it.

you not knowing what he just said is proof youre not qualified to discuss this topic any further,,,

 

[BlindBoo]

So, as long as you can justify breaking the law, then it is OK.

No, it's not okay. The laws do more harm than good for society and I advocate for changing the laws.

Pretty much everyone can justify breaking just about any laws there are, including murder. If a person is a bad person and the world would be better off without them anyway,

No, that's just not an argument. Extrajudicial executions base entirely on personal subjective opinion is ludicrous.

 

[Independent thinker]

you not knowing what he just said is proof youre not qualified to discuss this topic any further,,,

I believe people should say what they mean instead of dancing around the sombrero.

 

[g5000]

Most of those who are in favor of decriminalizing drugs claim that that would stop a lot of crime and illegal drug trading because it wouldn't be illegal anymore. According to this story out of California about weed, that hasn't worked so I find it unlikely that it would work if we decriminalized all drugs. Who wooda ever thunk that criminals could produce drugs cheaper than the government or private business?

California voters legalized cannabis last decade. So why is the illegal market more successful than ever?

California voters legalized cannabis last decade. So why is the illegal market more successful than ever?

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After Prohibition was repealed, illegal bootlegging of alcohol continued for a long period after. It does not go away overnight like magic.

The War on Drugs™ has been a catastrophic failure. We are well into the Insanity column of doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

It is way past time to try something different.

 

[Independent thinker]

No, it's not okay. The laws do more harm than good for society and I advocate for changing the laws.


No, that's just not an argument. Extrajudicial executions base entirely on personal subjective opinion is ludicrous.

It is a justification, like why should I have to pay my taxes if the rich don't pay their taxes? I see people justify things that are wrong almost daily.

 

[g5000]

I am for sobering addicted people up. You are of no value to society if you are a drug addict or even an alcohol addict. In fact, you are a drain on society. If done properly, which is almost impossible, I would allow rec use but addicts would be forcibly detained and helped so that they were no longer addicts anymore. And since, like alcohol, all it takes is one fall off the wagon, addicts would no longer be allowed rec use. And, yes, we keep addicts locked up in a treatment program for as long as it takes until there's a good chance we can let them out and they will no longer be users.

Should we forcibly lock up alcoholics? Goose/gander.

 

[progressive hunter]

I believe people should say what they mean instead of dancing around the sombrero.

he said exactly what he means,,

your problem is you cant stand being proven wrong and why you ran from our discussion where your ass was handed to you for being the fascist you are,,

 

[Independent thinker]

Should we forcibly lock up alcoholics? Goose/gander.

Yes, we should. How many people have to die from drunk drivers because we don't lock them up? I mean there are tons of cases where someone is arrested for DUI, even multiple times, AND been caught driving after their license is taken away, sometimes more than once. So, what do we do? We give them a ticket and a court appearance. Meanwhile, they drive drunk again and kill a totally innocent person. That's insane.

 

[Independent thinker]

he said exactly what he means,,

your problem is you cant stand being proven wrong and why you ran from our discussion where your ass was handed to you for being the fascist you are,,

He didn't say exactly what he means. He's dancing around what he really means. He should just say it.

 

[kaz]

Most of those who are in favor of decriminalizing drugs claim that that would stop a lot of crime and illegal drug trading because it wouldn't be illegal anymore. According to this story out of California about weed, that hasn't worked so I find it unlikely that it would work if we decriminalized all drugs. Who wooda ever thunk that criminals could produce drugs cheaper than the government or private business?

California voters legalized cannabis last decade. So why is the illegal market more successful than ever?

California voters legalized cannabis last decade. So why is the illegal market more successful than ever?

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Which party says that people should be able to make bad choices and they are responsible if they do for the consequences of those choices again?

When I talk about things like that, I'm not like you, I mean it. If someone wants to fry their brains out in their own home on their own dime, let them. If they go out and say drive, introduce them to our legal system and consequences

 

[Blues Man]

Not sure what you are trying to say. Maybe you should quit beating around the bush and just say it.

I said it.

It is prohibition and taxes that create illicit markets.

The best way to increase crime is to ban something

 

[Independent thinker]

If they go out and say drive, introduce them to our legal system and consequences

But we don't do that. You can get arrested for DUI many times, have your license get taken away, drive drunk with no license, and they still let you back out again, until you finally kill someone.

 

[Independent thinker]

I said it.

It is prohibition and taxes that create illicit markets.

The best way to increase crime is to ban something

Well, the OP is about proving that your way doesn't work.

 

[Blues Man]

Well, the OP is about proving that your way doesn't work.

My way?

I gave no opinion in this thread on any "way".

 

[22lcidw]

Most of those who are in favor of decriminalizing drugs claim that that would stop a lot of crime and illegal drug trading because it wouldn't be illegal anymore. According to this story out of California about weed, that hasn't worked so I find it unlikely that it would work if we decriminalized all drugs. Who wooda ever thunk that criminals could produce drugs cheaper than the government or private business?

California voters legalized cannabis last decade. So why is the illegal market more successful than ever?

California voters legalized cannabis last decade. So why is the illegal market more successful than ever?

www.yahoo.com

Government would be too expensive. Private enterprise under government regulations would still be more than criminals without regs.

 

[Blues Man]

Here's the thing with drug laws.

It has never been illegal to use any drug it is the possession prohibited drugs that is illegal.

 

[kaz]

But we don't do that. You can get arrested for DUI many times, have your license get taken away, drive drunk with no license, and they still let you back out again, until you finally kill someone.

True, but I wasn't defending our system, I was attacking it

 

[Blues Man]

Not terribly well.

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But drug decriminalization worked very well in Portugal

14 Years After Decriminalizing All Drugs, Here's What Portugal Looks Like

In 2001, the Portuguese government did something that the United States would find entirely alien. After many years of waging a fierce war on drugs, it decided to flip its strategy entirely: It decriminalized them all. If someone is found in the…

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