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Yeah, yeah, yeah....How did you get Minnesnowta stuff before me this time?
See #319. ;}
Right now all the talk in international climate circles is the US's "carbon debt" which is, MONEY we "owe" to underdeveloped countries for all our years of CO2 emissions..... Essentially, redistribution of wealth on a global scale.Cap-n-Tax has been SOP across a lot of Europe for awhile now.I don't know how many laws have been proposed in various places. I do know here that there's a huge blue about it and the federal governments Emissions Trading Scheme. I'm not going to take on anyone else's domestic legal situation.
But I do see this as a bit of luck. For too long the debate has been conducted on, can I say, two levels, maybe more but I can only think of two. First there's the scientific debate. Occasionally us laypersons get to see a bit of it, usually when someone's pissing out of the tent, but then they go back to furiously arguing with each other in terms that most of us wouldn't understand. What's needed there is a few umpires and a video replay. The second level is the ideological level which is where many of us are at. We take positions based on our political views and yell at one another and call each other Sceptics or Denialists or variants. It's the equivalent of intra-tribal warfare.
I don't see the debates being any clearer soon, I just hope to hell that it gets sorted out before too long.
Personally, my position on the matter is based upon reason, not necessarily politics. Largely on the bases that the "science" isn't reproducible on demand and the semantics of the warmists are deliberately deceptive.
Which is where this was all going from the beginning, all the way back when it was global cooling and the "new ice age" we were supposed to be afraid of.
They are LYING and this is and has been the motive. The hidden agenda that they no longer feel they have to hide. And the environment? The convenient emotional hook used to reel in the marks, the little fishies.
So I just read about this in the NYT. So, FOX is not alone in publishing this. The e-mails do not prove any type of cover up, as far as I have read. If there is something there, please show me.