There is an active shooter at a Florida Highschool

[theDoctorisIn]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

These types are almost invariably found to have been identified previously as a threat.

What does that mean, exactly?

Identified by who? What sort of threat? Why are they a threat?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

This thread is a disaster. Children died, people

So what do you think will get done about it ? Happens every week.

Don't politicize it before the bodies are cold would be a great start.

My heart is heavy tonight. Reading this drivel makes it worse

 

[jon_berzerk]

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Where’d he get the gun. ?

thanks for posting the tweet

that adds to the he was already on everyones radar

but was not stopped

 

[Lewdog]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

What do you suggest should have been done?

It's really easy to point fingers and find a scapegoat to blame in hindsight.

Sadly we can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. Could you imagine the outrage if we started doing that?

 

[jon_berzerk]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

What do you suggest should have been done?

It's really easy to point fingers and find a scapegoat to blame in hindsight.

Sadly we can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. Could you imagine the outrage if we started doing that?

no but a mental health referral should have been made

 

[Wyatt earp]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

What do you suggest should have been done?

It's really easy to point fingers and find a scapegoat to blame in hindsight.

Sadly we can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. Could you imagine the outrage if we started doing that?

Well we do convict people of crimes they were not charged with if they are political enemys.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

What do you suggest should have been done?

It's really easy to point fingers and find a scapegoat to blame in hindsight.

Sadly we can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. Could you imagine the outrage if we started doing that?

no but a mental health referral should have been made

For what?

You have no information to go on other than rumors and tweets, and yet you've determined the all the answers.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Doesn't matter....more people die from knives each and every year than from all mass shootings since 1982...that is a fact......but you don't care about those murdered with knives.....

Why do you limit it to mass shootings ? You are a fraud.

Moron....I limit it to mass shootings because it is the topic...of the the thread....and showing that knives murder more people every single year than all mass shooting victims since 1982 shows that you guys don't care about dead people....you only care about guns........

You’re a fucking rightard. You’re comparing killing multiple people with guns with killing individuals with knives. You might as well compare apples with oranges.

No, shit stain.....what I am doing is showing that it isn't the number of dead that you care about.....since knives actually murder a lot more people than mass public shooters do.........since 1982.....you only care about the gun........and clubs and empty hands murder more people than mass public shooters do each year as well...and you don't care about those methods either.......the body count is higher, but you don't care...

Knives have a purpose outside of killing people.

Meaning what exactly?

 

[TemplarKormac]

School shootings are seldom ideologically or politically motivated. This isn’t a left right issue.

I'm willing to bet everything I own, he wasn't an NRA member.

Ill go farther. His politics leans LEFT.

Frankly, I don't give a damn what his political leanings are. He needs to be swiftly escorted off this mortal plane.

 

[Lewdog]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

What do you suggest should have been done?

It's really easy to point fingers and find a scapegoat to blame in hindsight.

Sadly we can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. Could you imagine the outrage if we started doing that?

no but a mental health referral should have been made

For what? Do you have any info that he threatened to kill anyone before today? Was he suicidal? How do you know he hadn't talked to one?

You can't lock people up just because they are anti-social. We don't have long term mental health hospitals anymore. They got rid of those in the 80's.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

many other's carrying guns!!
1. too late--he will kill some at least
2. most will not know who the gunman is!!--so the gunman can hide with the other kids and shoot again....if you don't know who the shooter is, and see someone with a pistol--what will you do?? he could be the gunman--maybe not--you HAVE to shoot

This is complete horseshit.

Everybody knows others can shoot them quickly. How many are going to pull their gun?

what-??--with people running around with guns--no one will no who the shooter is--especially when the police get there

here's an example--there's a shooting in Walmart or a mall--you meet up with someone with a gun.....what will you do?? tell me what will be your reaction??
both of you do not know if the other is the gunman

Why would someone intent on shooting people be walking around just carrying a gun?

You really have not thought this through! What is it was an off-duty or plain-clothes police officer?

If there is a shooting at Walmart, you better be getting you ass to Target where it is safe instead of worrying about who is carrying a gun.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

These types are almost invariably found to have been identified previously as a threat.

What does that mean, exactly?

Identified by who? What sort of threat? Why are they a threat?

Review the cases. The answer is within your grasp.

 

[depotoo]

One student mentioned he had known him in alternative school and tried to stay away from him. Troubled students or those with discipline problems are shipped off to those schools, so he had enough history to have landed there.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

These types are almost invariably found to have been identified previously as a threat.

What does that mean, exactly?

Identified by who? What sort of threat? Why are they a threat?

Review the cases. The answer is within your grasp.

What "cases"?

Either you're full of shit, or you've got some magic access to information that none of us have.

Which is it?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

What do you suggest should have been done?

It's really easy to point fingers and find a scapegoat to blame in hindsight.

Sadly we can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. Could you imagine the outrage if we started doing that?

no but a mental health referral should have been made

For what? Do you have any info that he threatened to kill anyone before today? Was he suicidal? How do you know he hadn't talked to one?

You can't lock people up just because they are anti-social. We don't have long term mental health hospitals anymore. They got rid of those in the 80's.

That's half the problem. Bring them back.

 

[bodecea]

Legislate good judgement and universal morality....

How?

 

[depotoo]

Can anybody confirm or deny this please?

I heard the school had a fire drill earlier.

At the beginning of the day. And just before the day was over it went off again. Some are saying the second time may have been him pulling it.

 

[bodecea]

Goodie.

Care to compare with Chicago Illinois?

Why Chicago? They are only ranked 25th with Orlando FL ranked 20th.

Because Chicago has strict gun control as opposed to Florida which apparently is awash with guns! Right?

You tell me....you are the one who jumped from talking about Florida to talking about Chicago IL. I just brought the discussion back to Florida. Couldn't you see that?

Weasel.

So, you cannot focus on the topic of the thread and have to call names. Pathetic.

 

[Lewdog]

sad part is this guy was already identified as a problem but left un checked

A teacher at the school told the Miami Herald that Cruz, 19, had been identified as a potential threat to fellow students in the past.

What do you suggest should have been done?

It's really easy to point fingers and find a scapegoat to blame in hindsight.

Sadly we can't arrest people for crimes they haven't committed yet. Could you imagine the outrage if we started doing that?

no but a mental health referral should have been made

For what? Do you have any info that he threatened to kill anyone before today? Was he suicidal? How do you know he hadn't talked to one?

You can't lock people up just because they are anti-social. We don't have long term mental health hospitals anymore. They got rid of those in the 80's.

That's half the problem. Bring them back.

Blame that on Reagan.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Frankly, I don't give a damn what his political leanings are. He needs to be swiftly escorted off this mortal plane.

I don't care what you care about.

We need to understand the thinking that breeds these killers. Constitutionalists don't create these killers. The left, however, breeds them like flies.