"They don't want people to know what's going on here" - no citizens allowed.

[koshergrl]

Look at the baby killing scum flock to defend human trafficking and child abuse.

Disgusting.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

And let's just ignore the fact that it's the people who are actually working inside these facilities and on the borders who are saying there are egregious human rights offenses taking place, and the people need to be allowed to see for themselves what is going on.

Who? Surely they have names.

Our admin has quite openly threatened them with incarceration if they identify themselves.

Link?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

if republicans are interested in helping these children they'll provide more funding and slap down the idiots like the ones in murietta

Ah, the crux of the matter.

The children, who are being sold, murdered, raped, and otherwise exploited, will continue to be sold, murdered, raped and otherwise exploited at the behest of the current admin..unless we give them more money.

Get help today.

Don't wait any longer.

GET SOME HELP.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

if republicans are interested in helping these children they'll provide more funding and slap down the idiots like the ones in murietta

Ah, the crux of the matter.

The children, who are being sold, murdered, raped, and otherwise exploited, will continue to be sold, murdered, raped and otherwise exploited at the behest of the current admin..unless we give them more money.

Indeed. Where the hell did this skinny pimp come up with the arbitrary number "3.7 Billion"?

And suddenly he declares that he can "fix" the problem is he can throw more taxpayer money at it. I declare bullshit shenanigans!!!

Obviously, you haven't read the contents of the bill the REPUBLICANS AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

No money has been "thrown at it" because the REPUBLICANS HAVE OBSTRUCTED THE BILL THEY AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

That bill covers border security but the REPUBLICANS HAVE OBSTRUCTED THE BILL THEY AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

Getting it now?

 

[koshergrl]

Our admin has quite openly threatened them with incarceration if they identify themselves.

Ah. So they don't have names. And we can't verify they actually work or have access to any such facilities. Convenient, isn't it?

And can you quote the Admin openly threatening them with incarceration if they identify themselves? Remember, the conditions in those facilties isn't classified or related to the military in anyway.

I mean, we both know that you're just making this nonsense up as you go along, but lets see how far down the rabbit hole goes.

All my stuff is always quoted, linked, sourced....
You're good at making stuff up though...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Wow.. they're moving them right before a Congressional visit.. This Administration is sick, truly sick

It's no longer an American Administration, its a Banana Republic Regime

 

[guno]

Just wait for 2014 midterms.

Humm didn't we her this in predicting 2012, just you just wait syndrome

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) "The demographics race we're losing badly," "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

 

[koshergrl]

Ah, the crux of the matter.

The children, who are being sold, murdered, raped, and otherwise exploited, will continue to be sold, murdered, raped and otherwise exploited at the behest of the current admin..unless we give them more money.

Indeed. Where the hell did this skinny pimp come up with the arbitrary number "3.7 Billion"?

And suddenly he declares that he can "fix" the problem is he can throw more taxpayer money at it. I declare bullshit shenanigans!!!

Obviously, you haven't read the contents of the bill the REPUBLICANS AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

No money has been "thrown at it" because the REPUBLICANS HAVE OBSTRUCTED THE BILL THEY AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

That bill covers border security but the REPUBLICANS HAVE OBSTRUCTED THE BILL THEY AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

Getting it now?

Yeah! So you're JUSTIFIED in abusing, selling and killing children. Got it!

 

[koshergrl]

Just wait for 2014 midterms.

Humm didn't we her this in predicting 2012, just you just wait syndrome

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) "The demographics race we're losing badly," "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

don't do crack, guno.

 

[RandallFlagg]

I don't think dictator means what you think it means. Obama is asking congress to change the law that is forcing the government to house these children.

Just like Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin and Tao did. That's how they get absolute power to begin with, genius.

Go figure.

So they're dictators *before* they have absolute power.

Well, wouldn't Obama asking congress to change the law be rather elegant proof that he doesn't have absolute power right now. And thus, isn't a dictator?

Or are we just going with words meaning whatever you want them to mean?

Well, let's see genius. The IRS answers to no one. The Administration answers to no one. The Justice Department answers to no one. The Border patrol answers to no one. The Senate answers to no one. Dictatorship? Well, I'll let your little boot-licking ass answer that one.

You know, it's funny....Every night we are bombarded by ads that want us to "help" poor children around the world. EVERY NIGHT we see their dirty, pitiful faces that (we are told) go to bed hungry and they DESPERATELY need our help.

We have (what is being called by you Nazi's) a "humanitarian crisis" on our own borders. It's HORRIBLE!!!!! Yet, we can't get one of our own Congressmen into one of these "camps" to check on the welfare of these "pitiful souls".

Oh, but of the first 50 or so thousand that have been here a while - over half have already disappeared into the United States (never to be heard from again). They were given a "court date" and ordered to "appear". The judges are still waiting in empty courtrooms.

But what the hell - let's throw another 3.7 Billion taxpayer dollars at this "problem". Why not? Since 1964 we have spent 4 TRILLION dollars getting rid of poverty in America. How's THAT working for us??? Idiots.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Ah, the crux of the matter.

The children, who are being sold, murdered, raped, and otherwise exploited, will continue to be sold, murdered, raped and otherwise exploited at the behest of the current admin..unless we give them more money.

Indeed. Where the hell did this skinny pimp come up with the arbitrary number "3.7 Billion"?

And suddenly he declares that he can "fix" the problem is he can throw more taxpayer money at it. I declare bullshit shenanigans!!!

Obviously, you haven't read the contents of the bill the REPUBLICANS AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

No money has been "thrown at it" because the REPUBLICANS HAVE OBSTRUCTED THE BILL THEY AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

That bill covers border security but the REPUBLICANS HAVE OBSTRUCTED THE BILL THEY AGREED TO A YEAR AGO, the Senate passed, but HAS BEEN SITTING ON BOEHNER'S DESK EVER SINCE.

Getting it now?

If that's the case then GOOD!!! Any bill that doesn't include SHUTTING THE BORDER DOWN COMPLETELY should NOT move forward.

Getting it now?

 

[Katzndogz]

These are public facilities that are housing children, and our administration, though it allows criminals and illegals access to those kids, is denying the same access to our elected representatives and our press.

The illegals 'allowed access' are either 1) the kids at the facility themselves or 2) Their parents.

Who they don't allow time with all the little boys and girls is any random stranger that shows up at the door demanding to be let in.

Are you saying that the elected representatives of the people are random strangers?

 

[RandallFlagg]

These are public facilities that are housing children, and our administration, though it allows criminals and illegals access to those kids, is denying the same access to our elected representatives and our press.

The illegals 'allowed access' are either 1) the kids at the facility themselves or 2) Their parents.

Who they don't allow time with all the little boys and girls is any random stranger that shows up at the door demanding to be let in.

Are you saying that the elected representatives of the people are random strangers?

Indeed. That's what the idiot is saying.

 

[Skylar]

Anybody can show up and claim they are family, and take the kids. They are sending the kids off to *family* without checking to see if they really are *family*. They are allowing human traffickers, sex trade bosses, gang members, to pick up kids who are sick, mentally ill, and suicidal, just on their say-so that they are *related*..but they won't allow our credentialed press or elected representatives inside the facilities, even to take pictures or just interview people.

Disgusting. They will allow the little boys and girls to leave with known criminals, but they won't allow the people who would expose this horror to take a picture of the inside of the facilities.

Highly suspect...transporting large numbers of kids immediately prior to scheduled "walk throughs". The Nazis and the commies did this as well. THOSE detainees ended up in mass graves.

Lets see how that matches actual reports, even from extremely right wing sources:

Border Patrol agent Chris Cabrera said supervisors in his sector cleared more than 200 illegal immigrants being detained in the sally port, a garage used to load and unload illegal immigrants, last Wednesday when a group of bipartisan senior lawmakers made a planned visit to the McAllen Border Patrol station.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va) and House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) and Rep. Joe Garcia (D-Fla.) traveled to the Rio Grande Valley Sector to inspect the facilities where the majority of illegal immigrant children and adults are being detained.

Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

So, we're not talking about the youth facility. But instead, one of the stations of the Rio Grande Valley Sector. A plain old border patrol station. And per the Rio Grande Valley Sector Website, there are multiple stations:

Stations of the Rio Grande Valley Sector are Brownsville, Fort Brown Station , Weslaco, Harlingen, McAllen, Rio Grande City, Falfurrias, Kingsville, and Corpus Christi, Texas.

Rio Grande Valley Sector Texas | U.S. Customs and Border Protection

This is one station among many. And we're not talking about children specifically. But 200 illegal immigrants who were being housed in a sally port (garage) at the facility. Since we're getting allegations of death camps and mass graves, what happened to these 200 immigrants?

“The night before the group of lawmakers arrived the senior supervisors loaded up a couple hundred people being held in the sally port and shipped them out to Laredo. If everything is so fine and dandy, why not let the lawmakers in just the way it is?”

Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

So far from being sent to mass graves, mass executions or sold into sexual slavery, they were simply moved from a sally port in McAllen to a facility in Laredo.

It looks like no part of the panty shyting hysterics of the conservative narrative panned out. Lets try the next part:

Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-Okla.) said Monday that he was denied access to the facility housing the children when he made an unplanned visit on July 1.

Brindenstine said he was told by a manager from the Department of Health and Human Services that the next opportunity for him to visit would be July 21, but was later told that a July 12 tour was possible.

The congressman sent a letter to HHS officials Monday protesting the administration’s demand that visits be planned and prescheduled.

Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

The facility is one in Fort Sill Oklahoma. Hundreds of miles from the Rio Grande Valley Sector and in a completely different state. It houses about 1000 children, mostly teenagers:

Federal Officials Open Fort Sill Immigrant Shelter To Media

FORT SILL, Oklahoma -

Federal officials plan to allow members of the media to tour a temporary shelter at Fort Sill that is being used to house more than 1,000 mostly teenage immigrants from Central America.

Federal Officials Open Fort Sill Immigrant Shelter To Media - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |

So, um.......still nothing to back the lunatic 'death camp' and 'mass grave' narrative? No indication that these children are being sold into sexual slavery, being handed over to 'known criminals'. And the media is touring the facility.

With the conservative narrative so thoroughly debunked by a few minutes of research, I'd like to ask......why are conservatives absolutely losing their shyte of this?

 

[Skylar]

Well, let's see genius. The IRS answers to no one. The Administration answers to no one. The Justice Department answers to no one. The Border patrol answers to no one. The Senate answers to no one. Dictatorship? Well, I'll let your little boot-licking ass answer that one.

Then why is Obama going to congress to get a law changed....if he already has absolute power and answers to no one?

Think really hard......but don't hurt yourself.

And while you're at it, you may want to acquaint yourself with the actual meaning of 'dictator'. Its significantly different from the definition that you just imagined.

 

[Skylar]

Our admin has quite openly threatened them with incarceration if they identify themselves.

Ah. So they don't have names. And we can't verify they actually work or have access to any such facilities. Convenient, isn't it?

And can you quote the Admin openly threatening them with incarceration if they identify themselves? Remember, the conditions in those facilties isn't classified or related to the military in anyway.

I mean, we both know that you're just making this nonsense up as you go along, but lets see how far down the rabbit hole goes.

All my stuff is always quoted, linked, sourced....
You're good at making stuff up though...

Then it will be remarkably easy for you to show us your quoted linked and sourced example of Obama threatening them with incarceration if they identify themselves.

Or.....you could just keep giving us excuses why you can't back up the blithering nonsense you imagine.

Either works for me.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Well, let's see genius. The IRS answers to no one. The Administration answers to no one. The Justice Department answers to no one. The Border patrol answers to no one. The Senate answers to no one. Dictatorship? Well, I'll let your little boot-licking ass answer that one.

Then why is Obama going to congress to get a law changed....if he already has absolute power and answers to no one?

Think really hard......but don't hurt yourself.

And while you're at it, you may want to acquaint yourself with the actual meaning of 'dictator'. Its significantly different from the definition that you just imagined.

That skinny assed pimp "going to Congress"? Bullshit. He has a pen and a telephone, remember??

 

[Skylar]

These are public facilities that are housing children, and our administration, though it allows criminals and illegals access to those kids, is denying the same access to our elected representatives and our press.

The illegals 'allowed access' are either 1) the kids at the facility themselves or 2) Their parents.

Who they don't allow time with all the little boys and girls is any random stranger that shows up at the door demanding to be let in.

Are you saying that the elected representatives of the people are random strangers?

I'm saying if you want access to a youth facility on a federal army base, you need to make an appointment. You don't just show up at the gate of Fort Sill and demand to be let in.

 

[koshergrl]

Anybody can show up and claim they are family, and take the kids. They are sending the kids off to *family* without checking to see if they really are *family*. They are allowing human traffickers, sex trade bosses, gang members, to pick up kids who are sick, mentally ill, and suicidal, just on their say-so that they are *related*..but they won't allow our credentialed press or elected representatives inside the facilities, even to take pictures or just interview people.

Disgusting. They will allow the little boys and girls to leave with known criminals, but they won't allow the people who would expose this horror to take a picture of the inside of the facilities.

Highly suspect...transporting large numbers of kids immediately prior to scheduled "walk throughs". The Nazis and the commies did this as well. THOSE detainees ended up in mass graves.

Lets see how that matches actual reports, even from extremely right wing sources:

Border Patrol agent Chris Cabrera said supervisors in his sector cleared more than 200 illegal immigrants being detained in the sally port, a garage used to load and unload illegal immigrants, last Wednesday when a group of bipartisan senior lawmakers made a planned visit to the McAllen Border Patrol station.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va) and House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) and Rep. Joe Garcia (D-Fla.) traveled to the Rio Grande Valley Sector to inspect the facilities where the majority of illegal immigrant children and adults are being detained.

Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

So, we're not talking about the youth facility. But instead, one of the stations of the Rio Grande Valley Sector. A plain old border patrol station. And per the Rio Grande Valley Sector Website, there are multiple stations:



This is one station among many. And we're not talking about children specifically. But 200 illegal immigrants who were being housed in a sally port (garage) at the facility. Since we're getting allegations of death camps and mass graves, what happened to these 200 immigrants?



So far from being sent to mass graves, mass executions or sold into sexual slavery, they were simply moved from a sally port in McAllen to a facility in Laredo.

It looks like no part of the panty shyting hysterics of the conservative narrative panned out. Lets try the next part:

Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-Okla.) said Monday that he was denied access to the facility housing the children when he made an unplanned visit on July 1.

Brindenstine said he was told by a manager from the Department of Health and Human Services that the next opportunity for him to visit would be July 21, but was later told that a July 12 tour was possible.

The congressman sent a letter to HHS officials Monday protesting the administration’s demand that visits be planned and prescheduled.

Border Patrol Official: DHS Ordered Illegal Immigrant Holding Facility ?Cleared Out? Before Congressional Visit | TheBlaze.com

The facility is one in Fort Sill Oklahoma. Hundreds of miles from the Rio Grande Valley Sector and in a completely different state. It houses about 1000 children, mostly teenagers:

Federal Officials Open Fort Sill Immigrant Shelter To Media

FORT SILL, Oklahoma -

Federal officials plan to allow members of the media to tour a temporary shelter at Fort Sill that is being used to house more than 1,000 mostly teenage immigrants from Central America.

Federal Officials Open Fort Sill Immigrant Shelter To Media - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |

So, um.......still nothing to back the lunatic 'death camp' and 'mass grave' narrative? No indication that these children are being sold into sexual slavery, being handed over to 'known criminals'. And the media is touring the facility.

With the conservative narrative so thoroughly debunked by a few minutes of research, I'd like to ask......why are conservatives absolutely losing their shyte of this?

The parents sell the kids to coyotes for the price of their passage...
Then...

"Cyndi Whitmore, a volunteer with the Phoenix Restoration Project, an advocacy group that has been going to the bus terminal in Phoenix to help has stated that “It’s not safe health wise and we are concerned for their physical safety”. Whitmore traveled to the Greyhound station on Buckeye Road, in Phoenix and found approximately 50 women and young children who had just been released by ICE and she said that ICE gave these human beings no water, food or diapers and formula for the babies. The youngest children were as young as six months old.
Women and children were being dumped at Greyhound bus terminals and other public transportation areas in 110 degree heat without resources. ICE is directly and indirectly facilitating illegal entry into the country and forcing undocumented immigrants, mostly juvenile females, into the professions of drug running and prostitution, through the conditions that ICE is fostering.

"In Phoenix, we have a large Mexican drug cartel presence and sex trafficking of children is huge as immigrant, juvenile females constitute most of our street prostitutes in Phoenix. It is difficult for me to write these words, but ICE is, in one way or another, in league with human traffickers and drug deals through their neglect and the subsequent violations of individual human rights."

ICE Is Facilitating Human Smuggling and Child Trafficking | Dave Hodges ? The Common Sense Show

 

[koshergrl]

"The joke today is that if you want to catch the pimps and the drug dealers, just go a Greyhound station in Phoenix and Tucson. "

"Ultimately, the buck stops at Obama’s desk because ICE is operating on orders from the White House.
This depraved indifference to human life is unconscionable as the Obama administration continues to deconstruct the nation."

ICE Is Facilitating Human Smuggling and Child Trafficking | Dave Hodges ? The Common Sense Show