Zone1 Things that block people from God

[Frankenstein]

I refuted your point that "fine tuning" exists

And we don't know if this is the ONLY universe in existence now or that has ever existed it's just the only one we know about and we don't even understand this one

You did no such thing! Anything that exists, exists for the moment God spoke.
Fine tuning is absolutely real

 

[Blues Man]

You did no such thing! Anything that exists, exists for the moment God spoke.
Fine tuning is absolutely real

Prove it then.

Prove to me that no other universes exist or ever have existed.

And FYI the bible isn't proof

 

[Frankenstein]

No it isn't.

You must bow to the whims of a god or be punished.

And I don't believe everything in the bible because a lot of it is just Iron Age mumbo jumbo

No matter what you say, I would rather be obedient to God who sent his son to die for my sins, than the whims of men, and society, who only have their self interest in mind. You made your choice and you will have to deal with the consequences. See when I consider the price paid for my forgiveness, it is not an issue to give credit, and bow before the Sovereign God of creation.

 

[Frankenstein]

Prove it then.

Prove to me that no other universes exist or ever have existed.

And FYI the bible isn't proof

Well we do know that at some point we came into being and your science does not explain it. If there are other universes found they too would also be of the origin of God

 

[Blues Man]

No matter what you say, I would rather be obedient to God who sent his son to die for my sins, than the whims of men, and society, who only have their self interest in mind. You made your choice and you will have to deal with the consequences. See when I consider the price paid for my forgiveness, it is not an issue to give credit, and bow before the Sovereign God of creation.

But your god and Jesus are the same person aren't they?

Why would you worship any god that would actually kill his own son?

 

[Blues Man]

Well we do know that at some point we came into being and your science does not explain it. If there are other universes found they too would also be of the origin of God

Yes we all know that but we do not know how it happened.

That is all I ever said and you got your panties in a twist over it

Religion is just a way to claim you can know shit that you really don't know at all

 

[ding]

Because I am not a slave to religion like you I cannot disagree with Socialism and Communism?

Unlike you I don't need my opinions spoon fed to me through an Iron Age book of mythology.

Have you ever read anything written by Marx ? I seem to think not. But because I have you think I must agree with everything he wrote right?

FYI I read the bible too and do not believe everything in it like you do.

According to George Washington, religion and virtue are pillars of freedom and liberty.

 

[Frankenstein]

But your god and Jesus are the same person aren't they?

Why would you worship any god that would actually kill his own son?

Jesus is alive correct?

 

[Frankenstein]

Yes we all know that but we do not know how it happened.

That is all I ever said and you got your panties in a twist over it

Religion is just a way to claim you can know shit that you really don't know at all

I am telling you with certainty I know how it happened, haven't asked once for your opinion on the matter. I have explained why you do what you do, and you don't agree, or like it. However if you are going to come to a forum discussing God, prepare to have that happen! I am not a religious person I am a Christian!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Only to those who look to suppress their innate knowledge of God. Creation speaks of the Creator and you do not like it

No, to any rational adult.

Life is fine tuned to the universe. Not the other way around.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Jesus is alive correct?

Of course not. People don't come back from the dead.

 

[Frankenstein]

Of course not. People don't come back from the dead.

If you are a non believer move along, we aren't discussing your lack of faith!

 

[Frankenstein]

Of course not. People don't come back from the dead.

Of course he is !

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If you are a non believer move along, we aren't discussing your lack of faith!

"Things that block people from god"

Yes you are. Sit down, hall monitor.

People don't come back from the dead, silly.

 

[Frankenstein]

"Things that block people from god"

Yes you are. Sit down, hall monitor.

People don't come back from the dead, silly.

Jesus was resurrected, what keeps you from God is that you, as well as others have suppressed your innate knowledge of God. Pushed it so far down that you have been given over to a reprobate mind, as explained in Romans chapter 1.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Jesus was resurrected

No he wasn't. Resurrection is not possible.

Surely you can see how such an impossible claim might block someone from believing in any of it.

 

[Frankenstein]

No he wasn't. Resurrection is not possible.

Surely you can see how such an impossible claim might block someone from believing in any of it.

Yes he most certainly was, I am not worried about if it blocks you from believing it, that is between you and God.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes he most certainly was, I am not worried about if it blocks you from believing it, that is between you and God.

Then gtfo of the thread. Since that is the topic.

 

[badger2]

According to George Washington, religion and virtue are pillars of freedom and liberty.

George Washington had no theologians present on the day he died, nor prayers were uttered. He was a Roman stoic rather than a xian saint. Kneeling in the Valley Forge snow is an artist's imagining akin to John, delirious on Patmos.

 

[badger2]

Then gtfo of the thread. Since that is the topic.

This concept of blockage must be compared with the flows of atheism that religion, especially xianity, produces. There certainly is no blockage when xianity (aka christianity) secretes atheism due to its inherent contradictions.