This Is a Real Reason Why Middle-Class Incomes Remain Stagnant

[BluesLegend]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

So what you are saying is pretend money grows on trees, got it. /eyeroll

American business is making record profits. American business should do the right thing.

Businesses are not your personal piggy bank to be used for an unsustainable spending party.

 

[Stephanie]

the problem with the people who are democrats. they believe we are here to make their lives for them. they don't care what it does to a business or us

back in the day you couldn't make enough to support yourselves or the kids you plop out. the fathers usually got a second job. now today the fathers are demanding a business raise all their prices on the good they are selling so they pay their sorry asses to work for them.

Something wrong with this Society. no honor or pride

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

the problem with the people who are democrats. they believe we are here to make their lives for them. they don't care what it does to a business or us

back in the day you couldn't make enough to support yourselves or the kids you plop out. the fathers usually got a second job. now today the fathers are demanding a business raise all their prices on the good they are selling so they pay their sorry asses to work for them.

Something wrong with this Society. no honor or pride

Agreed. Years ago many of us had two or more jobs. Hell, I didn't have any kids and I had three jobs at one time just to support myself. If my full-time job didn't have me working on Saturday, I would make sure I had weekend work somewhere.

It was a different mindset back then though. If you needed more money, you just had to work more hours, that's it, not complain to your politicians that your employer was greedy.

I don't know any younger person today that has two jobs. If your job doesn't pay enough, don't learn a skill, don't keep trying to get into a company that pays well, just contact government and they will fill in the gaps.

These social programs took all the motivation out of people. Years ago the mood of the country was for everybody to get ahead. Today, the mindset is do enough just to get by.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Your plan would raise the prices of everything.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

You can't do that in a free country, you can only do that in a Communist or Dictator country. Nobody can tell a business they have to produce products or services at a loss and stay open.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

So what you are saying is pretend money grows on trees, got it. /eyeroll

American business is making record profits. American business should do the right thing.

And how often do you "do the right thing?"

When you go grocery shopping, do you go to the most expensive store or the store with lower prices? If you have a lawn care company, did you hire the most expensive one, or did you find somebody that mows your lawn at a reasonable price? When you need your car repaired, do you choose the garage that will repair it for $850.00, or do you choose the garage that will do the exact same work for $650.00?

So if you won't overpay people to do work for you, why do you think companies should?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There are currently more than 5 million job openings in the U.S. that are unfilled largely due to lack of skilled American workers. These visas (65,000 is minuscule relative to what we truly need) provide companies with personnel possessing much needed skill sets. They also allow companies to bring over some of the best and brightest from other countries which helps with innovation. We need more focus on vocational training and education that builds the skill sets our country requires. Instead, education costs have skyrocketed which works against those goals and creates a skill set deficit.

Quit funneling public tax monies to private schools.

And what would that solve?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A bunch of small businesses would go out of business at $12.
It's Idiotic all of that spending you talk about, dumbass.

Quantify "a bunch". If companies can't afford to pay their employees a decent wage, they shouldn't be in business. "All of that spending" is called investing in our country.

Businesses don't open up or stay open to "invest in our country." Businesses don't open up because they have a social obligation to people. Businesses don't open up so they can create jobs for Americans.

Businesses open up and stay open for one reason only--to make a profit. That's it in a nutshell.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, legalize pot and tax it, legalize illegals and tax them, stop illegal immigration with a good SS/ID card and enforcement, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

Find me one quote from our founders that states it's the federal governments job to invest in people. That's not what our government is for. If you want to invest in yourself, that's fine, but don't ask others to pay your tab for you.

 

[Rustic]

A bunch of small businesses would go out of business at $12.
It's Idiotic all of that spending you talk about, dumbass.

Quantify "a bunch". If companies can't afford to pay their employees a decent wage, they shouldn't be in business. "All of that spending" is called investing in our country.

Businesses don't open up or stay open to "invest in our country." Businesses don't open up because they have a social obligation to people. Businesses don't open up so they can create jobs for Americans.

Businesses open up and stay open for one reason only--to make a profit. That's it in a nutshell.

Sonic, has zero understanding how business works. Only a dumba$$ would start a business just to hire people.
They would not be in business long

 

[LeftofLeft]

Foreigners are the real problem in this country. I see it in my line of work. It doesn't matter whether they are legal or illegal, they come here and work for next to nothing. They have ten people living in two bedroom houses and apartments.

Next year our industry (transportation) will need over 46,000 new workers to drive trucks. Industry can't find them. Americans are too busy talking on their Obama Phone and eating like a pig on SNAP''s cards that they have no interest in the jobs or a new career. Industry now has to turn towards foreigners who will have to come here and take these jobs. They will work long hours, work for cheaper wages, and won't be too caught up in smoking pot so employers have no problem with them passing the drug tests.

So don't blame minimum wage. Minimum wage workers are less than 3% of our population, and most minimum wage workers are kids, part-time workers or seniors looking for something to fill up their time.

The problem is employers are paying close to minimum wage. Minimum wage should be $23.50/hr.

btw; It's the Reagan phone.

This is the Reagan phone. To your point, this is what should be issued.

 

[TNHarley]

remember folks, the democrats cares for you working slobs. that's why Obama just put on the books to allow more of these visas for Foreigners. so keep cutting your own throat and vote Democrat. you did such a fine job on that nobody Obama

Its republicans too. Bush Sr is the one that increased VISAs to 150 K a year. Republicans also support amnesty.
Obama is only raising what a Republican signed into law. And probably over research made from the immigration committee a Republican created.
So keep cutting your own throat and voting for the duopoly.

 

[rdean]

I've been saying this for years. Unfortunately most of the Republican candidates have been talking about expanding this program. Hopefully they can be re-educated before one of them gets elected:

This Is a Real Reason Why Middle-Class Incomes Remain Stagnant

H-1B visas are used by large corporations to bring into the United States cheap foreign workers who typically have college degrees. Corporations like this because they can control these foreign workers, and keep wages low for Americans by hiring foreigners. H-1B visas are a big reason why real wages in our country have not increased for the average worker.

Each year, companies are allowed to import 65,000 new hires from foreign countries, plus another 20,000 who have received a degree from an American university. The result over the past decade has been to staff corporations with hundreds of thousands of foreigners in good jobs that should have gone to Americans. Many middle-aged Americans with families to support, particularly in hi-tech fields such as computers, are unable to find a good job today because of this terrible program. Now things are getting even worse. Some companies are misusing this program in order to lay off American workers and send their jobs overseas, after the foreigners are trained here in how to do the work. This results in an offshoring of thousands of jobs, which are then permanently lost to our country.

Despite this, misguided candidates for president support expanding H-1Bs, which would take even more jobs away from Americans. Marco Rubio, for example, introduced a bill earlier this year in the U.S. Senate that would triple the number of new H-1B visas allowed annually. Any economist will confirm that as unemployment decreases in our country, real wages should be increasing. But this is not happening and the H-1B visa program to bring cheap foreign labor into our country is the reason why. It is time to end H-1B visas, not expand them.​

Republicans: Being educated is the problem. So do away with education? I love tardness. It's so funi.

 

[rightwinger]

I just don't see it....

Annual Fiscal Year Cap on H-1B Visas​

Typical Republican....blame immigrants for corporate greed

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

No. Minimum wage, the base for all wages hasn't increased with costs.

Brazil Real Plunges as Minimum-Wage Hike Worsens Fiscal Outlook

Brazil is a third world country.

No, it's not. It has the seventh largest economy in the world by GDP, but that has no relevancy now does it.

Want to try again?

 

[bripat9643]

I've been saying this for years. Unfortunately most of the Republican candidates have been talking about expanding this program. Hopefully they can be re-educated before one of them gets elected:

This Is a Real Reason Why Middle-Class Incomes Remain Stagnant

H-1B visas are used by large corporations to bring into the United States cheap foreign workers who typically have college degrees. Corporations like this because they can control these foreign workers, and keep wages low for Americans by hiring foreigners. H-1B visas are a big reason why real wages in our country have not increased for the average worker.

Each year, companies are allowed to import 65,000 new hires from foreign countries, plus another 20,000 who have received a degree from an American university. The result over the past decade has been to staff corporations with hundreds of thousands of foreigners in good jobs that should have gone to Americans. Many middle-aged Americans with families to support, particularly in hi-tech fields such as computers, are unable to find a good job today because of this terrible program. Now things are getting even worse. Some companies are misusing this program in order to lay off American workers and send their jobs overseas, after the foreigners are trained here in how to do the work. This results in an offshoring of thousands of jobs, which are then permanently lost to our country.

Despite this, misguided candidates for president support expanding H-1Bs, which would take even more jobs away from Americans. Marco Rubio, for example, introduced a bill earlier this year in the U.S. Senate that would triple the number of new H-1B visas allowed annually. Any economist will confirm that as unemployment decreases in our country, real wages should be increasing. But this is not happening and the H-1B visa program to bring cheap foreign labor into our country is the reason why. It is time to end H-1B visas, not expand them.​

Republicans: Being educated is the problem. So do away with education? I love tardness. It's so funi.

Was your incoherent babble intended to signify something?

 

[bripat9643]

I just don't see it....

Annual Fiscal Year Cap on H-1B Visas​

Typical Republican....blame immigrants for corporate greed

"Corporate greed" is the reason we are importing all these low-wage H1-B coolies rather than hiring Americans.

 

[francoHFW]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, legalize pot and tax it, legalize illegals and tax them, stop illegal immigration with a good SS/ID card and enforcement, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

Find me one quote from our founders that states it's the federal governments job to invest in people. That's not what our government is for. If you want to invest in yourself, that's fine, but don't ask others to pay your tab for you.

Typical incredibly shortsighted RWdupe idiocy. These kind of policies have worked in the past. Austerity and screwing the workers hasn't.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, legalize pot and tax it, legalize illegals and tax them, stop illegal immigration with a good SS/ID card and enforcement, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

Find me one quote from our founders that states it's the federal governments job to invest in people. That's not what our government is for. If you want to invest in yourself, that's fine, but don't ask others to pay your tab for you.

Typical incredibly shortsighted RWdupe idiocy. These kind of policies have worked in the past. Austerity and screwing the workers hasn't.

Nobody is screwing the workers. The only person that can screw a worker is himself.

If you wish to invest in the stock market, does government give you the money for that? What about if you invest in real estate, or a race horse, or the commodities market?

Of course not. It's not taxpayers job to invest in anything. That's an individual responsibility and action. So if you want to make an investment in yourself (or anything else for that matter) then you do it on your own time with your own dime.

 

[rightwinger]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

It's what Reagan wanted, huh?

Here we go again with the blame transference from the left: Don't blame our precious Obama, he can't do anything wrong. Blame the President that left the White House 27 years ago. Yeah, that's the ticket.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland