This Is a Real Reason Why Middle-Class Incomes Remain Stagnant

[rightwinger]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, legalize pot and tax it, legalize illegals and tax them, stop illegal immigration with a good SS/ID card and enforcement, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

Find me one quote from our founders that states it's the federal governments job to invest in people. That's not what our government is for. If you want to invest in yourself, that's fine, but don't ask others to pay your tab for you.

Typical incredibly shortsighted RWdupe idiocy. These kind of policies have worked in the past. Austerity and screwing the workers hasn't.

Nobody is screwing the workers. The only person that can screw a worker is himself.

If you wish to invest in the stock market, does government give you the money for that? What about if you invest in real estate, or a race horse, or the commodities market?

Of course not. It's not taxpayers job to invest in anything. That's an individual responsibility and action. So if you want to make an investment in yourself (or anything else for that matter) then you do it on your own time with your own dime.

Workers are getting screwed royally

$30 trillion in wealth created since 2009 and almost none trickled down to the workers.

Time for strong unions again to hold back all labor until wages and benefits return

 

[rightwinger]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

It's what Reagan wanted, huh?

Here we go again with the blame transference from the left: Don't blame our precious Obama, he can't do anything wrong. Blame the President that left the White House 27 years ago. Yeah, that's the ticket.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland

Reagan was the King of Supply Side Economics

Reduce taxes and regulation on the wealthy and it will trickle down in wages and jobs for working Americans

Who would have figured the wealthy would just keep the extra money?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, legalize pot and tax it, legalize illegals and tax them, stop illegal immigration with a good SS/ID card and enforcement, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

Find me one quote from our founders that states it's the federal governments job to invest in people. That's not what our government is for. If you want to invest in yourself, that's fine, but don't ask others to pay your tab for you.

Typical incredibly shortsighted RWdupe idiocy. These kind of policies have worked in the past. Austerity and screwing the workers hasn't.

Nobody is screwing the workers. The only person that can screw a worker is himself.

If you wish to invest in the stock market, does government give you the money for that? What about if you invest in real estate, or a race horse, or the commodities market?

Of course not. It's not taxpayers job to invest in anything. That's an individual responsibility and action. So if you want to make an investment in yourself (or anything else for that matter) then you do it on your own time with your own dime.

Workers are getting screwed royally

$30 trillion in wealth created since 2009 and almost none trickled down to the workers.

Time for strong unions again to hold back all labor until wages and benefits return

What unions? The only remaining unions now are government unions and they are putting the taxpayers in a serious hole. Unions are a thing of the past. They are in their rightful place--history books.

Yeah, 30 trillion since 2009, and who was President during all that time? Oh, that's right, blame Reagan.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

It's what Reagan wanted, huh?

Here we go again with the blame transference from the left: Don't blame our precious Obama, he can't do anything wrong. Blame the President that left the White House 27 years ago. Yeah, that's the ticket.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland

Reagan was the King of Supply Side Economics

Reduce taxes and regulation on the wealthy and it will trickle down in wages and jobs for working Americans

Who would have figured the wealthy would just keep the extra money?

What are you talking about? Reagan had tax increases just as he had tax reductions. But the President isn't in charge of taxes anyway--the Congress is which happened to be Democrat at the time.

We had some great economic years under Reagan just like we did under Clinton and even GW. If you are going to try and blame a guy that's been dead for 12 years for what's going on today, at least give him credit as well.

 

[rightwinger]

Raise the min to $12 NOW, invest in training for 3 million tech jobs going begging, raise top rate to 90% over a few million to cut ridiculous CEO and executive pay, legalize pot and tax it, legalize illegals and tax them, stop illegal immigration with a good SS/ID card and enforcement, invest in infrastructure and cheap college loans. IE, let Dems do it.

Find me one quote from our founders that states it's the federal governments job to invest in people. That's not what our government is for. If you want to invest in yourself, that's fine, but don't ask others to pay your tab for you.

Typical incredibly shortsighted RWdupe idiocy. These kind of policies have worked in the past. Austerity and screwing the workers hasn't.

Nobody is screwing the workers. The only person that can screw a worker is himself.

If you wish to invest in the stock market, does government give you the money for that? What about if you invest in real estate, or a race horse, or the commodities market?

Of course not. It's not taxpayers job to invest in anything. That's an individual responsibility and action. So if you want to make an investment in yourself (or anything else for that matter) then you do it on your own time with your own dime.

Workers are getting screwed royally

$30 trillion in wealth created since 2009 and almost none trickled down to the workers.

Time for strong unions again to hold back all labor until wages and benefits return

What unions? The only remaining unions now are government unions and they are putting the taxpayers in a serious hole. Unions are a thing of the past. They are in their rightful place--history books.

Yeah, 30 trillion since 2009, and who was President during all that time? Oh, that's right, blame Reagan.

Exactly...and Government Unions are not allowed to strike

The drop in wages and benefits corresponds to the decrease in power for the unions

Imagine the workers getting a bigger piece of the pie again, it would be great for the country
The money is there......Workers need to start demanding it

 

[rightwinger]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

It's what Reagan wanted, huh?

Here we go again with the blame transference from the left: Don't blame our precious Obama, he can't do anything wrong. Blame the President that left the White House 27 years ago. Yeah, that's the ticket.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland

Reagan was the King of Supply Side Economics

Reduce taxes and regulation on the wealthy and it will trickle down in wages and jobs for working Americans

Who would have figured the wealthy would just keep the extra money?

What are you talking about? Reagan had tax increases just as he had tax reductions. But the President isn't in charge of taxes anyway--the Congress is which happened to be Democrat at the time.

We had some great economic years under Reagan just like we did under Clinton and even GW. If you are going to try and blame a guy that's been dead for 12 years for what's going on today, at least give him credit as well.

The Reagan revolution was built on government spending in Defense. Tripling the deficit covers up a lot economically. Stupid Carter ran on a balanced budget and got killed for the economy

Cutting taxes on the wealthy has been a disaster....time we return to a reasonable tax structure

 

[Indeependent]

Let's keep in kind that businesses can operate in a safe environment due to ever increasing middle class taxes.

 

[bripat9643]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

How do low tax rates on the wealthy cause middle class wages to stagnate?

 

[bripat9643]

Let's keep in kind that businesses can operate in a safe environment due to ever increasing middle class taxes.

How do "ever increasing taxes" (your term) create a safe environment for business?

 

[Indeependent]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

How do low tax rates on the wealthy cause middle class wages to stagnate?

They spend the extra money on Business Visas at work and Illegals at home.
Many businesses were successful pre-Reagan.

 

[Indeependent]

Let's keep in kind that businesses can operate in a safe environment due to ever increasing middle class taxes.

How do "ever increasing taxes" (your term) create a safe environment for business?

Who provides all the middle class tax supported mechanisms, such as the legal system, law enforcement and civil infrastructure which provides a safe business infrastructure?
Certainly not mega businesses who get to write everything off.

 

[bripat9643]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

How do low tax rates on the wealthy cause middle class wages to stagnate?

They spend the extra money on Business Visas at work and Illegals at home.
Many businesses were successful pre-Reagan.

The government needs to spend $4 trillion on business visas? Illegals are what's driving down middle class wages

 

[bripat9643]

Let's keep in kind that businesses can operate in a safe environment due to ever increasing middle class taxes.

How do "ever increasing taxes" (your term) create a safe environment for business?

Who provides all the middle class tax supported mechanisms, such as the legal system, law enforcement and civil infrastructure which provides a safe business infrastructure?
Certainly not mega businesses who get to write everything off.

That accounts for about 5% of the federal budget. How does that justify "ever increasing taxes?" Business are easily capable of providing their own infrastructure, and also their own security.

 

[Indeependent]

Let's keep in kind that businesses can operate in a safe environment due to ever increasing middle class taxes.

How do "ever increasing taxes" (your term) create a safe environment for business?

Who provides all the middle class tax supported mechanisms, such as the legal system, law enforcement and civil infrastructure which provides a safe business infrastructure?
Certainly not mega businesses who get to write everything off.

That accounts for about 5% of the federal budget. How does that justify "ever increasing taxes?" Business are easily capable of providing their own infrastructure, and also their own security.

You're right; I misread your post.

 

[francoHFW]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

It's what Reagan wanted, huh?

Here we go again with the blame transference from the left: Don't blame our precious Obama, he can't do anything wrong. Blame the President that left the White House 27 years ago. Yeah, that's the ticket.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland

So when were we wrong? lol

 

[francoHFW]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

How do low tax rates on the wealthy cause middle class wages to stagnate?

High upper rates are the only thing that kept CEO and executive rates from getting ridiculous as they have...breaking unions, keeping the min wage low, and raising taxes on the nonrich killed them. Now we need the gov't to help. We need DEMAND- nonrich with money to spend..

 

[tyroneweaver]

Get ready for another EO from obam.

Obama's Agency Reveals Plan to Give Work-Permits To Myriad Foreign College-Graduates

So that would raise the total foreign workers to what, 3%? Most pick lettuce, wash dishes, and clean toilets.

Those jobs have already been filled by the uneducated

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let's keep in kind that businesses can operate in a safe environment due to ever increasing middle class taxes.

When was the last time middle-class has seen a tax increase?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Middle class wages are stagnant because that is what Reagan wanted

Low tax rates on the wealthy and low wages

It's what Reagan wanted, huh?

Here we go again with the blame transference from the left: Don't blame our precious Obama, he can't do anything wrong. Blame the President that left the White House 27 years ago. Yeah, that's the ticket.

"The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong."
Ray from Cleveland

Reagan was the King of Supply Side Economics

Reduce taxes and regulation on the wealthy and it will trickle down in wages and jobs for working Americans

Who would have figured the wealthy would just keep the extra money?

What are you talking about? Reagan had tax increases just as he had tax reductions. But the President isn't in charge of taxes anyway--the Congress is which happened to be Democrat at the time.

We had some great economic years under Reagan just like we did under Clinton and even GW. If you are going to try and blame a guy that's been dead for 12 years for what's going on today, at least give him credit as well.

The Reagan revolution was built on government spending in Defense. Tripling the deficit covers up a lot economically. Stupid Carter ran on a balanced budget and got killed for the economy

Cutting taxes on the wealthy has been a disaster....time we return to a reasonable tax structure

The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay about 70% of all collected federal income taxes. If 70% is not enough, then tell me what percentage is.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Find me one quote from our founders that states it's the federal governments job to invest in people. That's not what our government is for. If you want to invest in yourself, that's fine, but don't ask others to pay your tab for you.

Typical incredibly shortsighted RWdupe idiocy. These kind of policies have worked in the past. Austerity and screwing the workers hasn't.

Nobody is screwing the workers. The only person that can screw a worker is himself.

If you wish to invest in the stock market, does government give you the money for that? What about if you invest in real estate, or a race horse, or the commodities market?

Of course not. It's not taxpayers job to invest in anything. That's an individual responsibility and action. So if you want to make an investment in yourself (or anything else for that matter) then you do it on your own time with your own dime.

Workers are getting screwed royally

$30 trillion in wealth created since 2009 and almost none trickled down to the workers.

Time for strong unions again to hold back all labor until wages and benefits return

What unions? The only remaining unions now are government unions and they are putting the taxpayers in a serious hole. Unions are a thing of the past. They are in their rightful place--history books.

Yeah, 30 trillion since 2009, and who was President during all that time? Oh, that's right, blame Reagan.

Exactly...and Government Unions are not allowed to strike

The drop in wages and benefits corresponds to the decrease in power for the unions

Imagine the workers getting a bigger piece of the pie again, it would be great for the country
The money is there......Workers need to start demanding it

What you don't understand is that your idea only works in your little world.

In reality, all costs to business get passed down to us--the little people.

For instance, everybody wants cleaner air. Oh how nice cleaner air is. So in the trucking industry, we got hit with all kinds of environmental costs. A new tractor today costs over 10K than they did seven years ago. Why? Because of all the pollution BS they have to manufacture those trucks with.

Then we have this stuff called Diesel Emission Fluid, or DEF for short. It's a separate container that squirts that goofy fluid into the exhaust pipe to make it cleaner. During the Bush regime, the EPA forced refineries to make diesel fuel cleaner by greatly lowering the sulfur content. Since that time, diesel fuel increased to around a dollar a gallon more than gasoline, and it's still that way today. Prior to that, diesel was cheaper than gasoline.

So my employer has to pay more for trucks, more for diesel fuel, has to buy DEF for the trucks, and 80% of the problems with the trucks we have have to do with some pollution gadget going haywire. So who do you think pays for all this, my employer?

Of course not. My employer has to increase our fees to our customers. Our customers who manufacture the products we buy at the store has to increase their prices to cover additional transportation costs. That's how it works in the real world.