THIS IS HUGE! — BREAKING NEWS FROM ARIZONA AUDIT: The Number Of Illegal Votes In Maricopa County Could Easily Reach More Than 250,000 Votes

[surada]

Now you understand why the Dims didn't want to examine the ballots. If they audit all the toss-up states, then there will be a call for Biden to stop down.

THIS IS HUGE! — BREAKING NEWS FROM ARIZONA AUDIT: The Number Of Illegal Votes In Maricopa County...​

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On Saturday, the Arizona forensic audit continued at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in downtown Phoenix.​

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In Arizona, for months the Board of Supervisors in Maricopa County have complained about calls for a forensic review of the ballots in this large and crucial county.​

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The Board members guaranteed everything was fine but they won’t let anyone get close to their results.​

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They spent weeks after the election messing with ballots before they formally concluded the election results.​

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However, regardless of their efforts to prevent an audit of the Maricopa County results the forensic audit is now taking place at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum.​

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The audit is being live-streamed from 9 different angles from the arena floor at azaudit.org.​

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The election workers are running true forensic testing on the ballots!​

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Something HUGE is being revealed there right now!​

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Here’s what we’ve received on Sunday morning: ​

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Worthy Politics isn't reputable.

LOL, and you are?

They haven't been around long and they are hard right Christian conservatives.. Lying is acceptable. See if you can find any other sources.

You're not saying that "Worthy Politics dot com" isn't a top-notch, objective and honest news source, are you?

As opposed to CNN or TNYT or WAPO or any other "reputable" site that constantly gets caught in publishing or reporting LIES?

Try and imagine a group screaming that Trump stole the election in 2016 given the authority by a Democratic legislature to count all the ballots in 2017, and arguing that nobody should oversee what they are doing, including any pesky judges.

I’m sure the Trump cult would have been down with that.

Hmmmm, isn’t that what Democrat vote counters did in the past election, after they kicked out Republican observers? I think so.

:LOL......... no one kicked out Republican observers. That's just other stupid Trumpie lie.

 

[Faun]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

You're lying yet again. I'm beginning to believe you're pathological. No, what you're saying is not factually correct; that's a lie. You said this audit is part of a court proceeding. It is not. You said a court ordered the audit to continue. It did not.

Want proof?

Post a link to this court order you claim exists. You won't be able to since there is no such court order.

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

You're lying yet again. I'm beginning to believe you're pathological. No, what you're saying is not factually correct; that's a lie. You said this audit is part of a court proceeding. It is not. You said a court ordered the audit to continue. It did not.

Want proof?

Post a link to this court order you claim exists. You won't be able to since there is no such court order.

no i said the audit was ordered by the people via their reps in the Senate. The dems filed a lawsuit. Taking the matter to court to stop it.

The Court Ordered the Injuction of the Dems paid the contractors, if they didn’t they ordered the audit to go on.

 

[Dragonlady]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

 

[Dragonlady]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

You're lying yet again. I'm beginning to believe you're pathological. No, what you're saying is not factually correct; that's a lie. You said this audit is part of a court proceeding. It is not. You said a court ordered the audit to continue. It did not.

Want proof?

Post a link to this court order you claim exists. You won't be able to since there is no such court order.

no i said the audit was ordered by the people via their reps in the Senate. The dems filed a lawsuit. Taking the matter to court to stop it.

The Court Ordered the Injuction of the Dems paid the contractors, if they didn’t they ordered the audit to go on.

The Court did not order the audit to "go on". They only set out the circumstances under which the Democrats could stop it. If Dems want to stop the audit, they have pay the costs. Period. End of Story. It is up to Republicans what they do with their audit. If they choose to end it, they could.

 

[Faun]

You're lying yet again. I'm beginning to believe you're pathological. No, what you're saying is not factually correct; that's a lie. You said this audit is part of a court proceeding. It is not. You said a court ordered the audit to continue. It did not.

Want proof?

Post a link to this court order you claim exists. You won't be able to since there is no such court order.

no i said the audit was ordered by the people via their reps in the Senate. The dems filed a lawsuit. Taking the matter to court to stop it.

The Court Ordered the Injuction of the Dems paid the contractors, if they didn’t they ordered the audit to go on.

You're lying yet again.

Yes, you said this audit is part of a court proceeding...

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

And yes, you said a court ordered the audit to continue....

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Color me surprised you couldn't post a link to any such court order.

 

[Dragonlady]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

 

[Lesh]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

You are talking on circles as always

 

[Faun]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Then they should have hired a reputable firm with experience in auditing elections. Instead, they hired a firm with zero such experience and is headed by a conspiracy nut who's going into this process with the preconceived notion that he will find fraud, which wouldn't be so bad if this was being done transparently. But it's not. Cyber Ninjas refuses to let the media inside other than RWNJ OANN, who also promotes the Big Lie; asked the court not to publicly reveal their methods; is refusing to reveal who's funding most of this effort; and worst of all, there is not 100% bipartisan representation reviewing ballots or observing counters. Meaning the CEO of Cyber Ninjas, who publicly promoted the Big Lie but was unable to prove it -- is now in a position to falsify the results of this audit to correct his public statements in the past.

 

[Faun]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Great, if you're not lying, post the order to continue....

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

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OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Then they should have hired a reputable firm with experience in auditing elections. Instead, they hired a firm with zero such experience and is headed by a conspiracy nut who's going into this process with the preconceived notion that he will find fraud, which wouldn't be so bad if this was being done transparently. But it's not. Cyber Ninjas refuses to let the media inside other than RWNJ OANN, who also promotes the Big Lie; asked the court not to publicly reveal their methods; is refusing to reveal who's funding most of this effort; and worst of all, there is not 100% bipartisan representation reviewing ballots or observing counters. Meaning the CEO of Cyber Ninjas, who publicly promoted the Big Lie but was unable to prove it -- is now in a position to falsify the results of this audit to correct his public statements in the past.

they did. The Court didn’t take issue with the firm either. If the dems really had an issue they would have followed the Order and stopped the audit...they didn’t. It’s obvious the only issue the dems had was getting the audit done

 

[dblack]

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

This has jack squat to do with doing elections "correctly". It's a crass stunt by Republicans to sow doubt and confusion regarding the election process. They lost, so now they want to flip the table. Fuck them.

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

You are talking on circles as always

no it’s pretty straightforward not sure how it’s going over your head

 

[struth]

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

This has jack squat to do with doing elections "correctly". It's a crass stunt by Republicans to sow doubt and confusion regarding the election process. They lost, so now they want to flip the table. Fuck them.

that’s mere propaganda from the left..and fearmongering...stop already. The people of Arizona care...their reps have spoken and the Court didn’t go along with your attempt to stop it

 

[Dragonlady]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

The Democrats most certainly did challenge the legality of the audit, based on the lack of transparency of the Cyber Ninjas in describing their methods of conducting the audit, and whether or not they were following state law in that regard.

No press allowed other than OAN. No training for those conducting the audit. Refusal by the Cyber Ninjas to confirm their methods. Blue and black pens spoiling ballots.

This audit has no legality and no credibility whatsoever.

 

[Faun]

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

Ok, you've convinced me ... you're pathological.

You claim no one challenged the legality of the audit; but that too is a lie. Yes, there were some legal challenges, starting with...

​

 

[JustAGuy1]

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

This has jack squat to do with doing elections "correctly". It's a crass stunt by Republicans to sow doubt and confusion regarding the election process. They lost, so now they want to flip the table. Fuck them.

LOL, but it was fine in 2016. Progs are nothing if not hypocrites.

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

The Democrats most certainly did challenge the legality of the audit, based on the lack of transparency of the Cyber Ninjas in describing their methods of conducting the audit, and whether or not they were following state law in that regard.

No press allowed other than OAN. No training for those conducting the audit. Refusal by the Cyber Ninjas to confirm their methods. Blue and black pens spoiling ballots.

This audit has no legality and no credibility whatsoever.

no they asked for an injunction. The Court Ordered them to pay up if they wanted it or the audit would go forward.

The dems delay tactic was called out and of course they backed down and now we have the audit that the people of arizona wanted and are getting