This is what happens when you do not build pipelines

[Quantum Windbag]

Train accidents are always worse than pipeline accidents.

 

[healthmyths]

AND how much damage can 1 million barrels of oil traveling on water one mile do compared to 700 barrels in a pipeline on land???

 

[Moonglow]

This happened in Canada, where there are pipelines, just like in the USA, not all fuel is sent down a pipe.

 

[healthmyths]

This happened in Canada, where there are pipelines, just like in the USA, not all fuel is sent down a pipe.

BUT Canada WILL ship to China and there AIN'T NO PIPELINES, or rail cars going across the Pacific!
WHY is it so hard to comprehend that 1 million barrels traveling on the ocean with a drunken captain at the helm just is MORE massive damages and greater CHANCES
then a pipeline carrying 700 barrels in one mile!

Do you comprehend that when a tanker crashes one million barrels at risk?
But if the 5 miles of pipeline have a leak.. The worst is 3,500 barrels!

 

[FA_Q2]

This happened in Canada, where there are pipelines, just like in the USA, not all fuel is sent down a pipe.

No shit.

How about you actually address the point though. Less oil traveling by train means less oil train accidents, period.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We're probably going to use oil for the next 20 years...I support moving over to electric cars, but I feel we should seriously consider "pipes" to do so. Let's think logically.

 

[healthmyths]

We're probably going to use oil for the next 20 years...I support moving over to electric cars, but I feel we should seriously consider "pipes" to do so. Let's think logically.

71% of all oil Moved by Pipeline transportation
Interstate pipelines deliver over 11.3 billion barrels of petroleum each year.
AOPL*| Why Pipelines?

 

[Moonglow]

shit happens, deal with it.

 

[Freemason9]

This happened in Canada, where there are pipelines, just like in the USA, not all fuel is sent down a pipe.

BUT Canada WILL ship to China and there AIN'T NO PIPELINES, or rail cars going across the Pacific!
WHY is it so hard to comprehend that 1 million barrels traveling on the ocean with a drunken captain at the helm just is MORE massive damages and greater CHANCES
then a pipeline carrying 700 barrels in one mile!

Do you comprehend that when a tanker crashes one million barrels at risk?
But if the 5 miles of pipeline have a leak.. The worst is 3,500 barrels!

You DO understand that completion of the Keystone pipeline will allow the oil from Canadian sands to be exported from the Gulf via New Orleans, etc., right? It is somewhat likely that the pipeline's completion will actually INCREASE domestic oil prices because more Canadian oil will be exported--and, therefore, will no longer be available domestically.

I'll bet you never considered THAT, though.

 

[ClosedCaption]

This happened in Canada, where there are pipelines, just like in the USA, not all fuel is sent down a pipe.

No shit.

How about you actually address the point though. Less oil traveling by train means less oil train accidents, period.

No less train accidents mean less train accidents

 

[boedicca]

shit happens

As you persistently prove in every post you make.

 

[FA_Q2]

This happened in Canada, where there are pipelines, just like in the USA, not all fuel is sent down a pipe.

No shit.

How about you actually address the point though. Less oil traveling by train means less oil train accidents, period.

No less train accidents mean less train accidents

Well, as long as you are going to lie and obscure reality, why not.

There will be X train accidents per barrel of oil moved. Statistical fact, something that you likely do not understand. The relationship is direct; increases in one automatically will increase the other, same with decreases. Simple fact.

 

[tinydancer]

This happened in Canada, where there are pipelines, just like in the USA, not all fuel is sent down a pipe.

BUT Canada WILL ship to China and there AIN'T NO PIPELINES, or rail cars going across the Pacific!
WHY is it so hard to comprehend that 1 million barrels traveling on the ocean with a drunken captain at the helm just is MORE massive damages and greater CHANCES
then a pipeline carrying 700 barrels in one mile!

Do you comprehend that when a tanker crashes one million barrels at risk?
But if the 5 miles of pipeline have a leak.. The worst is 3,500 barrels!

You DO understand that completion of the Keystone pipeline will allow the oil from Canadian sands to be exported from the Gulf via New Orleans, etc., right? It is somewhat likely that the pipeline's completion will actually INCREASE domestic oil prices because more Canadian oil will be exported--and, therefore, will no longer be available domestically.

I'll bet you never considered THAT, though.

Well you're about to become a new victim

Welcome to the party.

The Keystone Pipeline is Phase III. There are already two other Keystone pipelines. Canada has been your number one supplier for ages.

Keystone III will not alter your energy costs. Just like Keystone I and Keystone II had no bearing at the gas pump.

You really should get up to speed or you'll get hammered on this board for being so uninformed.

 

[ClosedCaption]

No shit.

How about you actually address the point though. Less oil traveling by train means less oil train accidents, period.

No less train accidents mean less train accidents

Well, as long as you are going to lie and obscure reality, why not.

There will be X train accidents per barrel of oil moved. Statistical fact, something that you likely do not understand. The relationship is direct; increases in one automatically will increase the other, same with decreases. Simple fact.

What is "X"?

As long as you never say what "x" is...then yeah, it makes total sense

 

[Freemason9]

BUT Canada WILL ship to China and there AIN'T NO PIPELINES, or rail cars going across the Pacific!
WHY is it so hard to comprehend that 1 million barrels traveling on the ocean with a drunken captain at the helm just is MORE massive damages and greater CHANCES
then a pipeline carrying 700 barrels in one mile!

Do you comprehend that when a tanker crashes one million barrels at risk?
But if the 5 miles of pipeline have a leak.. The worst is 3,500 barrels!

You DO understand that completion of the Keystone pipeline will allow the oil from Canadian sands to be exported from the Gulf via New Orleans, etc., right? It is somewhat likely that the pipeline's completion will actually INCREASE domestic oil prices because more Canadian oil will be exported--and, therefore, will no longer be available domestically.

I'll bet you never considered THAT, though.

Well you're about to become a new victim

Welcome to the party.

The Keystone Pipeline is Phase III. There are already two other Keystone pipelines. Canada has been your number one supplier for ages.

Keystone III will not alter your energy costs. Just like Keystone I and Keystone II had no bearing at the gas pump.

You really should get up to speed or you'll get hammered on this board for being so uninformed.

Everything you just said is a lie. The completion of the Keystone pipeline will absolutely INCREASE domestic gasoline prices--particularly in the Midwestern U.S.

 

[kiwiman127]

Train accidents are always worse than pipeline accidents.

Most of the oil coming out of North Dakota is via trains, the oil boom was huge and quick and there was no infrastructure in place..
We may see more of what's pictured above.

 

[Luissa]

Train accidents are always worse than pipeline accidents.

They are always worse than pipeline accidents?

The 2011 Nairobi pipeline fire was caused by an explosion secondary to a fuel spill in the Kenyan capital Nairobi on 12 September 2011.[1] Approximately 100 people were killed in the fire and at least 116 others were hospitalized with varying degrees of burns.[2] The incident was not the first such pipeline accident in Kenya,[1] with the Molo fire of 2009 resulting in at least 133 fatalities and hundreds more injured.

2011 Nairobi pipeline fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1998: At Jesse in the Niger Delta in Nigeria, a petroleum pipeline exploded killing about 1200 villagers, some of whom were scavenging gasoline. The worst of several similar incidents in this country.[8] (October 17, 1998)
2000: Another pipeline explosion near the town of Jesse killed about 250 villagers.[8] (July 10, 2000)
2000: At least 100 villagers died when a ruptured pipeline exploded in Warri.[8] (July 16, 2000)
2000: A leaking pipeline caught fire near the fishing village of Ebute near Lagos, killing at least 60 people.[8] (November 30, 2000)
2003: A pipeline punctured by thieves exploded and killed 125 villagers near Umuahia, Abia State.[8] (June 19, 2003)
2004: A pipeline punctured by thieves exploded and killed dozens of people in Lagos State.[8] (September 17, 2004)
2006: An oil pipeline punctured by thieves exploded and killed 150 people at the Atlas Creek Island in Lagos State.[9] (May 12, 2006)
2006: A vandalised oil pipeline exploded in Lagos. Up to 500 people may have been killed.[10] (December 26, 2006)
2008: The 2008 Ijegun pipeline explosion (May 16)
Russia
List of pipeline accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

989 The Ufa train disaster: Sparks from two passing trains caused gas leaking from an LPG pipeline near Ufa, Russia to explode. Workers with the pipeline noticed pressure dropping in the line, but they increased pressure instead of searching for a leak. Trees up to 4 kilometers away were felled by the blast, and 2 locomotives and 38 passenger cars on the trains were derailed. Up to 645 people were reported killed on June 4, 1989.[11]

List of pipeline accidents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And if you want to make the argument of poor keep up of Pipelines, I will privately send you a link from a Frontline interview my friend's dad did on the poor conditions BP keeps its pipes in Alaska........Where he is an engineer.

I think the Pipeline sounds like a great idea.......In theory.


And did the oil spill into a body of water?

About 3:28 p.m., Pacific daylight time, on June 10, 1999, a 16-inch-diameter steel pipeline
owned by Olympic Pipe Line Company ruptured and released about 237,000 gallons of gasoline into a
creek that flowed through Whatcom Falls Park in Bellingham, Washington. About 1 1/2 hours after the
rupture, the gasoline ignited and burned approximately 1 1/2 miles along the creek. Two 10-year-old boys
and an 18-year-old young man died as a result of the accident. Eight additional injuries were documented.
A single-family residence and the city of Bellinghamís water treatment plant were severely damaged. As
of January 2002, Olympic estimated that total property damages were at least $45 millio

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2002/PAR0202.pdf

 

[Plasmaball]

wow this was a giant fail by OP. This train crashing does no mean pipes are superior in anyway.
Whats your solution for tankers that crash or people who steal oil from pipes and just dump out the left overs on the ground in order to make money? What about the couple drops you let fall out onto the ground when you pump your gas?

The op is evidence of what happens when you are lazy. dont let this happen to you folks...

 

[tinydancer]

You DO understand that completion of the Keystone pipeline will allow the oil from Canadian sands to be exported from the Gulf via New Orleans, etc., right? It is somewhat likely that the pipeline's completion will actually INCREASE domestic oil prices because more Canadian oil will be exported--and, therefore, will no longer be available domestically.

I'll bet you never considered THAT, though.

Well you're about to become a new victim

Welcome to the party.

The Keystone Pipeline is Phase III. There are already two other Keystone pipelines. Canada has been your number one supplier for ages.

Keystone III will not alter your energy costs. Just like Keystone I and Keystone II had no bearing at the gas pump.

You really should get up to speed or you'll get hammered on this board for being so uninformed.

Everything you just said is a lie. The completion of the Keystone pipeline will absolutely INCREASE domestic gasoline prices--particularly in the Midwestern U.S.

Prove that prices will increase.

And seriously are you stupid? There are already two finished Keystone pipelines from Canada to the US

 

[ClosedCaption]

The title should've been "This is what happens when you have motorized vehicles"