This is Why Blacks Don't Listen to Black Sellouts

[John T. Ford]

No, that's not clear. What is however are the government policies that made slums happen.

Yes..

Your Leftist government made that happen .....

 

[IM2]

.​

Please.
You got the smell of Trump all over you.
Your attempt to claim the Democratic party in 1964 is the same as it is in 2021 proves both your dishonesty and ignorance. Key requirements to join the GOP in 2021.
You're GOP from the top of your bald head to the bottom of your athletes' feet.

Fuckin psych Leftist .....

Do you even know who is sitting in the White House ..... err ..... in the hospital bed in Delaware at the moment?

The same POS who did Robery Byrd's eulogy.

You psycho Leftist are so brainwashed .....

DUMBASS !!!

Byrd was no longer in the KKK at the time this picture was taken.

We are here in a furum full of republicans talking racist bullshit.

LIKE YOU!

So stop trying that Robert Byrd bullshit.

 

[John T. Ford]

.​

Please.
You got the smell of Trump all over you.
Your attempt to claim the Democratic party in 1964 is the same as it is in 2021 proves both your dishonesty and ignorance. Key requirements to join the GOP in 2021.
You're GOP from the top of your bald head to the bottom of your athletes' feet.

Fuckin psych Leftist .....

Do you even know who is sitting in the White House ..... err ..... in the hospital bed in Delaware at the moment?

The same POS who did Robery Byrd's eulogy.

You psycho Leftist are so brainwashed .....

DUMBASS !!!

Byrd was no longer in the KKK at the time this picture was taken.

We are here in a furum full of republicans talking racist bullshit.

LIKE YOU!

So stop trying that Robert Byrd bullshit.

You think that makes it OK you RACIST POS ...

Find your SAFE SPACE you RACIST bitch ......

 

[IM2]

No, that's not clear. What is however are the government policies that made slums happen.

Yes..

Your Leftist government made that happen .....

Wrong.

 

[BlackSand]

PLEASE
You sound like Lindsey Graham now.
I was against Trump before I was for him.
I hate Trump but I voted for him, TWICE

BWAHAHAHAHA

Fight? not me.
But bring the stupid
Lead with insults
I'll play that game and laugh my ass off at those who TRY to play along.

.

Now that is funny, because anyone that knows me in the real world could tell you
that Senator Graham is the person at the very top of my shitlist.
At least Speaker Pelosi puts a little more effort into actually doing something, as wrong as it may be.

He is about a worthless bastard, and crybaby to boot ...
You don't know crap about me, and are incapable of understanding.

If he serves any purpose, it's as a vote that causes a logjam against more piss-poor legislation
that comes from the Assclowns on Capitol Hill.

You do a good enough job insulting yourself every time you open your mouth.

.​

 

[IM2]

.​

Please.
You got the smell of Trump all over you.
Your attempt to claim the Democratic party in 1964 is the same as it is in 2021 proves both your dishonesty and ignorance. Key requirements to join the GOP in 2021.
You're GOP from the top of your bald head to the bottom of your athletes' feet.

Fuckin psych Leftist .....

Do you even know who is sitting in the White House ..... err ..... in the hospital bed in Delaware at the moment?

The same POS who did Robery Byrd's eulogy.

You psycho Leftist are so brainwashed .....

DUMBASS !!!

Byrd was no longer in the KKK at the time this picture was taken.

We are here in a furum full of republicans talking racist bullshit.

LIKE YOU!

So stop trying that Robert Byrd bullshit.

You think that makes it OK you RACIST POS ...

Find your SAFE SPACE you RACIST bitch ......

You are the racist. Like I said:

We are here in a furum full of republicans talking racist bullshit.

LIKE YOU!

So stop trying that Robert Byrd bullshit.

 

[IM2]

Ah, yet more stupid lies and excuses for poor black cultural results, even after Nixon gave them control over their own cities and schools some 50 years ago, more than enough time to raise any demographics' standards of education and cultural improvements, Funny how so many other minorities manged to do so much better with zero government aid,eh?

The Civil Rights Act applied to all minorities and today all minorities face serious racism. Whites like you have not listened. But there has been one government program that has helped non white immigrants to America in ways American blacks have not been helped:

THE H1B Visa program.

The majority of those with H1B visias are from India, hence the high Asian income and low unemployment.

Nixon didn't do shit 50 years ago and documented facts are not excuses. Whites have been getting government help since 1776. Shut your delusional ass up.

 

[BlackSand]

The Civil Rights Act applied to all minorities and today all minorities face serious racism. Whites like you have not listened. But there has been one government program that has helped non white immigrants to America in ways American blacks have not been helped:

THE H1B Visa program.

The majority of those with H1B visias are from India, hence the high Asian income and low unemployment.

Nixon didn't do shit 50 years ago and documented facts are not excuses. Whites have been getting government help since 1776. Shut your delusional ass up.

.

Have to give you kudos on the fact you recognized the Government is more interested in new arrivals
than anyone who has been here a while.

.​

 

[IM2]

The Civil Rights Act applied to all minorities and today all minorities face serious racism. Whites like you have not listened. But there has been one government program that has helped non white immigrants to America in ways American blacks have not been helped:

THE H1B Visa program.

The majority of those with H1B visias are from India, hence the high Asian income and low unemployment.

Nixon didn't do shit 50 years ago and documented facts are not excuses. Whites have been getting government help since 1776. Shut your delusional ass up.

.

Have to give you kudos on the fact you recognized the Government is more interested in new arrivals
than anyone who has been here a while.

.​

The H1B Visa has existed for a long time, but you are correct to say that our government has initiated programs that are responsible for taking jobs from qualified American citizens such as the H1B. So while some fight to stop illegal immigration, legal immigrants are encouraged to come work in American companies instead of Americans of all races.

 

[BlackSand]

The H1B Visa has existed for a long time, but you are correct to say that our government has initiated programs that are responsible for taking jobs from qualified American citizens such as the H1B. So while some fight to stop illegal immigration, legal immigrants are encouraged to come work in American companies instead of Americans of all races.

.

You are dead on about the H1B Visas ...
And there is a connection between Government (more precisely some people in it),
that benefit greatly from supplying highly qualified cheap labor.

That doesn't fall along party lines though ... There are a lot of folks milking that cow.
From Silicon Valley, through the Vaulted Halls of Higher Learning, all the way to some Defense Contractors ... And everything in between.

But you see you break it off when you just want to make it about African Americans ... It's not.

The H1B program wouldn't be a terrible idea as a stand alone.
We want to attract qualified skilled workers and diversity to a competitive labor market.

The first problem is when corrupt government is using the program for personal gain.
The second problem is when they combine that effort with an unfettered immigration policy that allows a flood of unskilled workers.

They are attacking the labor market from all directions, destroying wage opportunities,
and the damage is not only to the African American community.

.​

 

[MizMolly]

You are a disgusting Racist.

The very kind of Racist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. called out in his "I Have a Dream" speech.

MLK was fighting for reparations. That's why the racist conservative whites had him assassinated.

How much will make you whole? Can you assign a dollar amount to it?

You're gonna' need to, because if you believe there's just going to be some never-ending stream of money landing in your bank account, you're fucking high.

At one point, IM2 said it was $56,000. When I asked him he would shut the fuck up if the government gave him such a reparation, he backpedaled.

You negroes want reparations? Fine. Give us a number or, for the love of all that's holy, shut the fuck up...

No one backpedalled you sorry piece of white trash. What I said was that if we just took what we have lost in income since 2000, it would be $56,000 each. But that doesn't cover the other losses since that time, nor does it recoup the lost tax dollars blacks have put in the system since 1913 at minimum that went to programs and policies we were excluded from. So Marc doesn't have to shut up, but perhaps you should.

Why should you be compensated for the loss of tax dollars that you didn't earn?

 

[IM2]

The H1B Visa has existed for a long time, but you are correct to say that our government has initiated programs that are responsible for taking jobs from qualified American citizens such as the H1B. So while some fight to stop illegal immigration, legal immigrants are encouraged to come work in American companies instead of Americans of all races.

.

You are dead on about the H1B Visas ...
And there is a connection between Government (more precisely some people in it),
that benefit greatly from supplying highly qualified cheap labor.

That doesn't fall along party lines though ... There are a lot of folks milking that cow.
From Silicon Valley, through the Vaulted Halls of Higher Learning, all the way to some Defense Contractors ... And everything in between.

But you see you break it off when you just want to make it about African Americans ... It's not.

The H1B program wouldn't be a terrible idea as a stand alone.
We want to attract qualified skilled workers and diversity to a competitive labor market.

The first problem is when corrupt government is using the program for personal gain.
The second problem is when they combine that effort with an unfettered immigration policy that allows a flood of unskilled workers.

They are attacking the labor market from all directions, destroying wage opportunities,
and the damage is not only to the African American community.

.​

The problem with looking at things the way you want is that blacks and people of color are most harshly affected by these things and that the people in charge doing all the things you are talking about are generally white. Things have not been or are they now the same. This is why talking about things in colorblind terms cannot be done.

 

[BlackSand]

The problem with looking at things the way you want is that blacks and people of color are most harshly affected by these things and that the people in charge doing all the things you are talking about are generally white. Things have not been or are they now the same. This is why talking about things in colorblind terms cannot be done.

.

IM2, you don't have to tell me that you don't want to be colorblind ... That's evident in everything you post.
I am still not going to make the mistakes our ancestors made, and make color a criteria for a new vision and better direction.

You may never understand that, and I understand why you don't want to.
However ... At no point did I say you were not capable ... That's your choice.

.​

 

[BS Filter]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Now you're just a dumb ass. For you to actually believe that shows you have a supreme mental disibility. If the republican party offered something better we'd vote republican. You motherfuckers are trying to make it harder for us to vote and you're trying to tell us that stale ass lie you right wing racist punks repeat every day. Why in the FUCK would I join a party full of white USMB members?

Now stop lying about why gas prices are going up and stop lying about taxes. The only people working to make us poorer are republicans and we would be extremely stupid to support the Anglo Saxon Heritage Caucus.

Republicans had the black vote for 60 years.
Then they sold them out for the southern conservative vote

Yes, blacks were republicans for 100 years. Then they nominated Goldwater and that was the lat straw.

Blacks started to migrate to Democrats under FDR
Why? Because his programs helped them.

They supported JFK for the same reason

Once LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation, Blacks became firm Democrats and Republicans scrambled to recruit disgruntled white racists

You mean once Democrats started buying votes with taxpayer money Blacks became firm Democrats...right Winger? So how has that REALLY worked out for the average Black person living in our big cities? Is their life better than it was before? Safer? Or have liberal policies turned vast areas of American cities into wastelands unfit to live in?

You do realize what the Great Depression was don’t you?
FDR centered recovery on helping struggling people rather than struggling corporations. That included blacks

How have blacks in the Big City done under Democrats vs what Republicans offered them?
Much better with urban enterprise zones, education programs, jobs training, healthcare, food and housing programs

What have Republicans done for inner city blacks other than build more prisons?

Where do Republicans have control over those inner city areas?

They have had the White House and both Houses of Congress

Show me any legislation in the last 50 years from Republicans that helps the poor and minorities more than it helps the rich

Show me why inner city issues are more a federal concern than a state and local concern. Are not most cities run by democrats who can't get their act together and take care of their decaying centers?

Who says they are?
Federal Government is also concerned with rural areas.

It's clear that most inner city slums are and have been for decades run by democrats who have done very little to improve living conditions for the black people most at risk for poverty and violence because they are the primary caretakers of the cities. You are acting as if it is expected and excusable for them to take no responsibility and that they are there merely to direct the flow of money to their friends and themselves. Come to think of it though, since they are democrats, that may very well be the case.

And you want to blame Republicans. It is to laugh.

No, that's not clear. What is however are the government policies that made slums happen.

Democrats built those slums, but you're too blind to see it and too cowardly to admit it.

 

[BS Filter]

The H1B Visa has existed for a long time, but you are correct to say that our government has initiated programs that are responsible for taking jobs from qualified American citizens such as the H1B. So while some fight to stop illegal immigration, legal immigrants are encouraged to come work in American companies instead of Americans of all races.

.

You are dead on about the H1B Visas ...
And there is a connection between Government (more precisely some people in it),
that benefit greatly from supplying highly qualified cheap labor.

That doesn't fall along party lines though ... There are a lot of folks milking that cow.
From Silicon Valley, through the Vaulted Halls of Higher Learning, all the way to some Defense Contractors ... And everything in between.

But you see you break it off when you just want to make it about African Americans ... It's not.

The H1B program wouldn't be a terrible idea as a stand alone.
We want to attract qualified skilled workers and diversity to a competitive labor market.

The first problem is when corrupt government is using the program for personal gain.
The second problem is when they combine that effort with an unfettered immigration policy that allows a flood of unskilled workers.

They are attacking the labor market from all directions, destroying wage opportunities,
and the damage is not only to the African American community.

.​

The problem with looking at things the way you want is that blacks and people of color are most harshly affected by these things and that the people in charge doing all the things you are talking about are generally white. Things have not been or are they now the same. This is why talking about things in colorblind terms cannot be done.

Not for you, anyway. Any person with average intelligence and common sense will evaluate policies instead of looking at everything through skin color, you ignorant racist loser.

 

[basquebromance]

if there is no black father, it's an 80 percent chance the son will be: 1) broke sitting under a tree or 2) in jail or 3) dead

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu

From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Now you're just a dumb ass. For you to actually believe that shows you have a supreme mental disibility. If the republican party offered something better we'd vote republican. You motherfuckers are trying to make it harder for us to vote and you're trying to tell us that stale ass lie you right wing racist punks repeat every day. Why in the FUCK would I join a party full of white USMB members?

Now stop lying about why gas prices are going up and stop lying about taxes. The only people working to make us poorer are republicans and we would be extremely stupid to support the Anglo Saxon Heritage Caucus.

Republicans had the black vote for 60 years.
Then they sold them out for the southern conservative vote

Yes, blacks were republicans for 100 years. Then they nominated Goldwater and that was the lat straw.

Blacks started to migrate to Democrats under FDR
Why? Because his programs helped them.

They supported JFK for the same reason

Once LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation, Blacks became firm Democrats and Republicans scrambled to recruit disgruntled white racists

You mean once Democrats started buying votes with taxpayer money Blacks became firm Democrats...right Winger? So how has that REALLY worked out for the average Black person living in our big cities? Is their life better than it was before? Safer? Or have liberal policies turned vast areas of American cities into wastelands unfit to live in?

You do realize what the Great Depression was don’t you?
FDR centered recovery on helping struggling people rather than struggling corporations. That included blacks

How have blacks in the Big City done under Democrats vs what Republicans offered them?
Much better with urban enterprise zones, education programs, jobs training, healthcare, food and housing programs

What have Republicans done for inner city blacks other than build more prisons?

Where do Republicans have control over those inner city areas?

They have had the White House and both Houses of Congress

Show me any legislation in the last 50 years from Republicans that helps the poor and minorities more than it helps the rich

Show me why inner city issues are more a federal concern than a state and local concern. Are not most cities run by democrats who can't get their act together and take care of their decaying centers?

Who says they are?
Federal Government is also concerned with rural areas.

It's clear that most inner city slums are and have been for decades run by democrats who have done very little to improve living conditions for the black people most at risk for poverty and violence because they are the primary caretakers of the cities. You are acting as if it is expected and excusable for them to take no responsibility and that they are there merely to direct the flow of money to their friends and themselves. Come to think of it though, since they are democrats, that may very well be the case.

And you want to blame Republicans. It is to laugh.

No, that's not clear. What is however are the government policies that made slums happen.

And those were the Democrat Policies of Lyndon Baines Johnson.....

 

[IM2]

Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

Bears repeating. American posters have also told me that's the reason the US cannot go to single payer health care, it doesn't want Blacks getting 'free stuff'. One has only to read this message bored to see that's a reasonable supposition.

Blacks can't spell Board either.
Quoting from the few white Supremacist's who post on this web site is not a representative of what Whites think.

There are more than a few,. This is not the only forum like this, 74 million mostly white people voted for trump and polls show that at least 1/3 of all white hold or agree with white supremacist views. B-O-A-R-D.

 

[IM2]

if there is no black father, it's an 80 percent chance the son will be: 1) broke sitting under a tree or 2) in jail or 3) dead

A black man without a father served 2 terms as president. None of what you said is true white boy. Concern yourself with the huge problems in the white community such as daddy living at home molesting his son or daughter.

 

[IM2]

"In the late 1800s, depending on the city, 70% to 80% of black households were two-parent. Dr. Thomas Sowell has argued, “The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.”

The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. Today most Americans love the program. However, when the act was signed, the law was made to exclude occupations that were mainly occupied by blacks. When President Roosevelt signed the law, 65 percent of blacks in America were ineligible. So for years a majority of blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment.

Time out! Hold up! Whoa! Let’s take a short break from the action to talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV of the social security act of 1935 called for grants in aid to be provided to each stated as Aid To Dependent Children. “ For the purpose of enabling each State to furnish financial assistance, as far as practicable under the conditions in such State, to needy dependent children, there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1936, the sum of $24,750,000, and there is hereby authorized to be appropriated for each fiscal year thereafter a sum sufficient to carry out the purposes of this title. The sums made available under this section shall be used for making payments to States which have submitted, and had approved by the Board, State plans for aid to dependent children.”

This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children without daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Seems that Sowell is unable to point this out and in fact this is part of long tradition of taking care of poor single parent white families.

Aid to Dependent Children or ADC (later renamed Aid to Families with Dependent Children, AFDC) was Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1935. At first it functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states maintain their mothers’ aid laws that had been passed in 40 states between 1910 and 1920. With the federal government providing 1/3 of costs, the program offered aid to poor parents, imagined at that time to be always female, caring for children without a husband.

The ADC plan was written by the former directors of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in the Department of Labor, Grace Abbott and Katherine Lenroot. They lobbied hard to get this program added to the Social Security bill, which was aimed at male breadwinners, reflecting the masculinist assumptions and composition of the Committee on Economic Security (CES) that wrote the bill. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers lacked the support of a breadwinner, no matter how they got to that position.

Aid To Dependent Children: The Legal History

For its first three decades, AFDC operated much like a private charity, with its case workers given discretion in investigating clients, cutting off benefits to those determined to be unsuitable, a…

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Children’s Bureau

Written by Kriste Lindenmeyer, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Maryland, Baltimore County. The establishment of the U.S. Children’s Bureau in 1912 marked a high point in the effort by ma…

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From the time of the Childrens Bureau until 1965 no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and subsisided the disintegration of the white family. It was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

As late as 1950, only 18% of black households were single parent. From 1890 to 1940, a slightly higher percentage of black adults had married than white adults. In 1938, black illegitimacy was about 11% instead of today’s 75%. In 1925, 85% of black households in New York City were two-parent. Today, the black family is a mere shadow of its past."-Walter Williams

In 1938 During this time of great black 2 parent family morality, the poverty rate for blacks was 80 percent. In 1959, it was 55 percent. These sky high rates of poverty occurred during the time these fools rant about the black 2 parent family. Today due to the " liberal welfare state breaking up the black family by giving them welfare" black poverty is half of what it was in 1959 and more than 1/3 of what it was in those grand old glorious days of the two parent black family.

Blacks afflicted with Internalized racism repeating bs from Daniel Moynihan should not be taken seriously in any discussion on matters of race in America.

Ross, C., Danziger, S. & Smolensky, E. The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979. Demography 24, 587–600 (1987). The level and trend of poverty in the United States, 1939–1979 | Demography | Duke University Press

Table 2. Poverty Status of People by Family Relationship, Race, and Hispanic Origin: 1959 to 2014, US Department of the Census, http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/historical/people.html

Facts!

Black Americans' biggest problem remains racism via government policies and culture from the dominant white society.

Yet you continue to vote for the very people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer who keep you poor...Notice how you gasoline prices have gone up, sure isnt making you rich, notice how the taxes are going up, sure isnt making you rich...I used to feel sorry for the poor, but when they vote for the very people who keep them poor, i just laugh at their stupidity...

Now you're just a dumb ass. For you to actually believe that shows you have a supreme mental disibility. If the republican party offered something better we'd vote republican. You motherfuckers are trying to make it harder for us to vote and you're trying to tell us that stale ass lie you right wing racist punks repeat every day. Why in the FUCK would I join a party full of white USMB members?

Now stop lying about why gas prices are going up and stop lying about taxes. The only people working to make us poorer are republicans and we would be extremely stupid to support the Anglo Saxon Heritage Caucus.

Republicans had the black vote for 60 years.
Then they sold them out for the southern conservative vote

Yes, blacks were republicans for 100 years. Then they nominated Goldwater and that was the lat straw.

Blacks started to migrate to Democrats under FDR
Why? Because his programs helped them.

They supported JFK for the same reason

Once LBJ passed Civil Rights legislation, Blacks became firm Democrats and Republicans scrambled to recruit disgruntled white racists

You mean once Democrats started buying votes with taxpayer money Blacks became firm Democrats...right Winger? So how has that REALLY worked out for the average Black person living in our big cities? Is their life better than it was before? Safer? Or have liberal policies turned vast areas of American cities into wastelands unfit to live in?

You do realize what the Great Depression was don’t you?
FDR centered recovery on helping struggling people rather than struggling corporations. That included blacks

How have blacks in the Big City done under Democrats vs what Republicans offered them?
Much better with urban enterprise zones, education programs, jobs training, healthcare, food and housing programs

What have Republicans done for inner city blacks other than build more prisons?

Where do Republicans have control over those inner city areas?

They have had the White House and both Houses of Congress

Show me any legislation in the last 50 years from Republicans that helps the poor and minorities more than it helps the rich

Show me why inner city issues are more a federal concern than a state and local concern. Are not most cities run by democrats who can't get their act together and take care of their decaying centers?

Who says they are?
Federal Government is also concerned with rural areas.

It's clear that most inner city slums are and have been for decades run by democrats who have done very little to improve living conditions for the black people most at risk for poverty and violence because they are the primary caretakers of the cities. You are acting as if it is expected and excusable for them to take no responsibility and that they are there merely to direct the flow of money to their friends and themselves. Come to think of it though, since they are democrats, that may very well be the case.

And you want to blame Republicans. It is to laugh.

No, that's not clear. What is however are the government policies that made slums happen.

And those were the Democrat Policies of Lyndon Baines Johnson.....

No they were not. They were policies created by every administration from 1900 until the fair housing act, both republican and democrat.