This is why open carry is ridiculous.......and dangerous

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

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Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.
You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.
I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.
The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.
Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.
I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.
Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.
And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.
Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.
Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.
Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.
Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.
I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.
Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.
Your party is supporting the terrorist acts.
You have been Triggered. Found your picture online, Horse's Ass.
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So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

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Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


Open carry is for pussy bois who are afraid someone will question their masculinity. Beta males in other words.

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Open carry is about people who WILL NOT allow their God-given rights to be trampled, sheep.
Bullshit. Open carry is for people who wanna act tough but can't do it without a prop. Beta males, as previously stated.
Boy, am I glad that's not going on. That would be scary.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

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Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

So basically, you're saying that it's perfectly okay for you to assert that he's a Trump supporter with no evidence, and it's our job to provide evidence to prove your assertion wrong.

Alternatively, we can dismiss you as a biased jackhole and utterly ignore your unfounded accusations as so much partisan bullshit.
I gave four or five news articles saying the same thing. Your turn to show they are wrong. This ain't a court of law. It is the kangaroo court of public opinion and I do not care about yours.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

Well, I know your thought masters have told you to believe all spree shooters are Trump supporters, but you're going to have to offer a little more proof than, "I'm sure he was, because ORANGE MAN BAAAAD!!!"

Come back with some substantiation, and maybe we'll listen to you a whole five seconds before we start derisively mocking you.
Are you trying to say the gun nut down in Texas was not a trump supporter? If that is it, just say so. You can post a link to back it up, if you like. I posted a pic of a bunch of links that thought he was. All you have posted is bitching because I posted the immediate search results returned by DuckDuckGo search engine. You are bitching about a picture of search results posted. What were you a philosophy major and want to argue bout whether reality is real? If you type in the same question asking if he was a trump supporter to google or whatever search engine you use, what do you get? I bet you get a lot of the same.

No, I'm trying to say that you're an idiot whose vague statement that something is true is worth a taco fart in a wind tunnel to me. I'm further trying to say that, if all I have to go on is the fact that you say something is true, I am going to take the starting assumption that it's bullshit, simply because you said it.

I can't actually say anything about the specific case you're talking about, since your dumb ass couldn't be bothered to provide any details, let alone any proof of your assertion.

I most assuredly am not going to post the link YOU should have posted, because I don't do homework for lazy idiots.
Well, I guess that settles that. You are not going to state what I said, that You are pissed off about and I am not going to guess. Thanks for playing. :auiqs.jpg:

Yeah, that settles that. You are going to make unfounded assertions, demand that I prove them for you, and then claim some sort of "victory" because I told you to go pound sand up your lazy ass.

Glad to know that you can laugh at your idiocy as much as everyone else is, though.
You're starting to bore the hell out of me. :bigbed:
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


Open carry is for pussy bois who are afraid someone will question their masculinity. Beta males in other words.

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Open carry is about people who WILL NOT allow their God-given rights to be trampled, sheep.
Bullshit. It is about a bunch of short dicked,pussies that think they become tough guys by carrying a gun.


Is Sleepy Joe a "short dicked pussy"for having armed bodyguards at his beck and call 24/7 in the fortified Biden-Bunker?
No, you moron. President elect Biden is a high value target.

You aren't.
So guns are good when protecting a high value target, but are double plus ungood when protecting the ordinary citizen? A high value target is lauded for wanting and getting protection, but an ordinary citizen is a coward because she wants and gets protection?

What exactly are you trying to say?
 
Trying to shame our manhood so we will quit protecting ourselves?

Yeah, fuck you. We're still carrying and there is not a cocksucking thing your pussy-hat-wearing ass can do about it but cry in your appletini and jerk your boyfriend off.

It's just as much of a standard leftist ploy as racism. In the 70's, it was called reverse psychology. While it was pretty easy for normal people to figure it out, the left still thinks we are unaware of it.

When they compare manhood to guns, they are actually expecting you to react in guilt. I don't want people to think I have a small package, so I'm going to quit carrying my firearm. I'm going to quit supporting the second. I'm going to quit advocating that Americans have a right to defend themselves.

It never works that way, but let's not tell them that.
And of course we need to ask the question, why are they so obsessed with penis size in the first place? I mean, no one in their right mind cares what a leftist thinks about their penis size, so why do they think it's important? Hmmm, I just answered my own question.
 
If you need a big gun to prove to yourself you are masculine then you aren't.

Beta males open carry.

We've never said that's why we carry--you or your ilk has. We carry to protect ourselves and perhaps others. Americans use their firearm nearly a million times a year (depending on who's estimate you're using) for self-defense and mostly to stop a crime in action. It never makes national news, and sometimes not even local news depending on what's going on, but it happens several times a day somewhere across this country.

There is nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst.
Obvious why. That's not the issue.
 
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So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


Open carry is for pussy bois who are afraid someone will question their masculinity. Beta males in other words.

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Open carry is about people who WILL NOT allow their God-given rights to be trampled, sheep.
Bullshit. It is about a bunch of short dicked,pussies that think they become tough guys by carrying a gun.

Bullshit. It is about a bunch of short-dicked, panty-wearing pussies that think they can shame people into not defending themselves. Take a bow, panty-wearer. And figure out that no one in this country is going to forego their Second Amendment rights because they're desperate for YOUR approval of their masculinity.
If you need a big gun to prove to yourself you are masculine then you aren't.

Beta males open carry.
trolls parrot the same tired line over and over.
When your telling the truth you don't need anything else.

Sorry for your luck.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


Open carry is for pussy bois who are afraid someone will question their masculinity. Beta males in other words.

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Open carry is about people who WILL NOT allow their God-given rights to be trampled, sheep.
Bullshit. Open carry is for people who wanna act tough but can't do it without a prop. Beta males, as previously stated.
Boy, am I glad that's not going on. That would be scary.
Sadly you are incorrect. That is exactly what is happening.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


Open carry is for pussy bois who are afraid someone will question their masculinity. Beta males in other words.

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Open carry is about people who WILL NOT allow their God-given rights to be trampled, sheep.
Bullshit. It is about a bunch of short dicked,pussies that think they become tough guys by carrying a gun.


Is Sleepy Joe a "short dicked pussy"for having armed bodyguards at his beck and call 24/7 in the fortified Biden-Bunker?
No, you moron. President elect Biden is a high value target.

You aren't.
So guns are good when protecting a high value target, but are double plus ungood when protecting the ordinary citizen? A high value target is lauded for wanting and getting protection, but an ordinary citizen is a coward because she wants and gets protection?

What exactly are you trying to say?
Nobody is likely to be targeting your worthless ass for assassination.

This isn't rocket science, kid.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


Open carry is for pussy bois who are afraid someone will question their masculinity. Beta males in other words.

View attachment 426348
Open carry is about people who WILL NOT allow their God-given rights to be trampled, sheep.
Bullshit. It is about a bunch of short dicked,pussies that think they become tough guys by carrying a gun.


Is Sleepy Joe a "short dicked pussy"for having armed bodyguards at his beck and call 24/7 in the fortified Biden-Bunker?
No, you moron. President elect Biden is a high value target.

You aren't.
So guns are good when protecting a high value target, but are double plus ungood when protecting the ordinary citizen? A high value target is lauded for wanting and getting protection, but an ordinary citizen is a coward because she wants and gets protection?

What exactly are you trying to say?
Nobody is likely to be targeting your worthless ass for assassination.

This isn't rocket science, kid.


Actually, you are full of shit.

Most people who get assassinated or threatened with assassination are ordinary people. A friend of mine was threatened in downtown Youngstown by a thug with assassination for failing to give him his money. When is the last time that happened to Sleepy Joe who is locked in the Biden-Bunker in Wilmington.
 
And of course we need to ask the question, why are they so obsessed with penis size in the first place? I mean, no one in their right mind cares what a leftist thinks about their penis size, so why do they think it's important? Hmmm, I just answered my own question.

It's not in most cases. It's supposed to work like this in their minds:

You carry a gun because you have a small package!

Gee, I don't want people to think that of me. I'll quit carrying my gun. I'll never touch one again. I'd rather get killed than have people think that of me!!!! I'm selling all my guns!!!

One thing about liberals, they always think other people are just as stupid as they are.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

So basically, you're saying that it's perfectly okay for you to assert that he's a Trump supporter with no evidence, and it's our job to provide evidence to prove your assertion wrong.

Alternatively, we can dismiss you as a biased jackhole and utterly ignore your unfounded accusations as so much partisan bullshit.
I gave four or five news articles saying the same thing. Your turn to show they are wrong. This ain't a court of law. It is the kangaroo court of public opinion and I do not care about yours.
Lol, quotes fake news, wants them to be proved wrong knowing he will not accept anything that disagrees with his media feeding. Literally everything you leftist scum post with links is shown to be lies, half truths or just plain bullshit within a day or two.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

So basically, you're saying that it's perfectly okay for you to assert that he's a Trump supporter with no evidence, and it's our job to provide evidence to prove your assertion wrong.

Alternatively, we can dismiss you as a biased jackhole and utterly ignore your unfounded accusations as so much partisan bullshit.
I gave four or five news articles saying the same thing. Your turn to show they are wrong. This ain't a court of law. It is the kangaroo court of public opinion and I do not care about yours.
Lol, quotes fake news, wants them to be proved wrong knowing he will not accept anything that disagrees with his media feeding. Literally everything you leftist scum post with links is shown to be lies, half truths or just plain bullshit within a day or two.
I would have to see it, to see if I could accept it. Nobody wanted to post any publish denials, the Texas Walmart shooter was a right wing trump guy. At least I showed published articles. You are arguing I would not accept something never offered, I suppose doubting your own nonexistent offerings. Bad ole straw-man again, just more ethereal in nature if there is anything beyond not existent, to date.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.
You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.
I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.
The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.
Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.
I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.
Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.
And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.
Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.
Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.
Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.
Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.
I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.
Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.
You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.
Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
View attachment 426366
So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.
You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.
I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.
The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.
Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.
I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.
Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.
And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.
Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.
Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.
Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.
Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.
I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.
Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.
You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.
Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.
Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
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So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
View attachment 426357
Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
View attachment 426366
So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

So basically, you're saying that it's perfectly okay for you to assert that he's a Trump supporter with no evidence, and it's our job to provide evidence to prove your assertion wrong.

Alternatively, we can dismiss you as a biased jackhole and utterly ignore your unfounded accusations as so much partisan bullshit.
I gave four or five news articles saying the same thing. Your turn to show they are wrong. This ain't a court of law. It is the kangaroo court of public opinion and I do not care about yours.
Lol, quotes fake news, wants them to be proved wrong knowing he will not accept anything that disagrees with his media feeding. Literally everything you leftist scum post with links is shown to be lies, half truths or just plain bullshit within a day or two.
Bingo, you hit the nail squarely on the head.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
View attachment 426357
Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
View attachment 426366
So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.
You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.
I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.
The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.
Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.
I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.
Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.
And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.
Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
View attachment 426819
Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.
Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.
Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.
Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.
I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.
Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.
You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.
Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Don't wait on White 6, he just posts pics of MSM BS that makes unsubstantiated allegations.
 
So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

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Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""


First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.
Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.
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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?
Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.
You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?
No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.
I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?
Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.
The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?
So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?
You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.
You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.
I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.
The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.
Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.
I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.
Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.
And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.
Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.
Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.
Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.
Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.
I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.
Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.
You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.
Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Don't wait on White 6, he just posts pics of MSM BS that makes unsubstantiated allegations.
Thanks. Maybe you can convince him of the meaning of "futility". The cows are from frontierpartisans.com, by the way. Don't remember where the trigger horse's ass came from.:cool:
 

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