This is why open carry is ridiculous.......and dangerous

[2aguy]

If a Democrat tells you Democrats aren't coming for your guns and you believe it, you're an idiot.

See...now you just insulted idiots.....idiots know that democrats are going to go for guns this time around....

Wait, you still have guns? I thought Obama took them all.

Are you a child?

It has been explained to you before.

The democrats lost control of the House in the 1990s after 40 years of control, and one of the reasons was the assault weapon ban which motivated 2nd Amendment voters.

Obama did not want to lose control of congress because he had to protect obama care....he didn't want anti-gun votes losing democrat seats.

He concentrated on putting into place anti-gun judges at the lower federal courts, and in the Supreme Court, then he initiated Fast and Furious, selling guns to Mexican drug cartels to get American guns to turn up in Mexican crime scenes.

The lower court anti-gun judges have been ruling anti-gun laws from the state and local level Constitutional, ignoring the all of the 2nd Amendment rulings from the Supreme Court.

Now....with biden, they are going to try to get rid of the Lawful Commerce in Arms act to sue gun makers out of business...

So, dipshit....the attack is long term and ongoing...

Bullshit. Gun nuts were running through the streets screaming "Obama is going to take our guns!!! OMG OMG OMG":

You are an idiot.....

We told you how they are actually doing it...you want them to do it, so you lie about how they are doing it.....you are a fascist.

 

[2aguy]

If you need a big gun to prove to yourself you are masculine then you aren't.

Beta males open carry.

We've never said that's why we carry--you or your ilk has. We carry to protect ourselves and perhaps others. Americans use their firearm nearly a million times a year (depending on who's estimate you're using) for self-defense and mostly to stop a crime in action. It never makes national news, and sometimes not even local news depending on what's going on, but it happens several times a day somewhere across this country.

There is nothing wrong with being prepared for the worst.

Yep.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
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So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

 

[2aguy]

If one has a lick of sense they'll leave open carrying alone

Answer the question, dipshit.
Why does anybody need to carry a gun to a legal, peaceful protest???
Your deflection is noted, pussy.

The same reason someone may carry a gun when they go to the store. You never know when you may need it. I would argue that given recent history of the left, I would be much more likely to carry at a protest than going to the grocery store. I would be much more likely to carry, if it was legal, in big inner cities than in most small rural towns because I am statistically much more likely to need it. Just a little common sense goes a long way.

I seem to recall that Gabby Giffords was shot in a Safeway parking lot. The night I was assaulted, I was on my way to Circle K. So yeah, just because your intention is to do something routine and innocuous like going to a store doesn't mean it can't end with someone else's evil plan to attack you.

The House republicans were just trying to play baseball when the bernie sanders supporter tried to murder all of them.......some of the Republicans had concealed carry permits...but weren't allowed to have their guns with them because they were in Maryland.......if it not for the security detail that the one republican gets because of his position, many of them would have been murdered that day..........even though they had concealed carry permits....

 

[White 6]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
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So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.

 

[miketx]

You still don't get it. Try this.

Jesus stop it with those ten light year long quotes.

 

[White 6]

You still don't get it. Try this.

Jesus stop it with those ten light year long quotes.

Buckley was indeed wordy, but expressed himself very well. While searching for that, I came across a well written article (I think in Federalist) saying there is no definition of conservatism or at best is in the mind of the beholder.

 

[justinacolmena]

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"

If a USAF sergeant killed any Calfiornia gun control cops -- as per your screenshot of Google results -- then it was honorably, in the line of military duty, not an act of murder under any civilian jurisdiction. When city cops have violated their oath or affirmation to support and uphold the Constitution of the United States -- including its Second Amendment -- as the "supreme" or highest law of the land, then that is what they can expect, not any aid or comfort from U.S. armed forces. The due process of law does not afford so much grace to inveterate oathbreakers.

 

[White 6]

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"

If a USAF sergeant killed any Calfiornia gun control cops -- as per your screenshot of Google results -- then it was honorably, in the line of military duty, not an act of murder under any civilian jurisdiction. When city cops have violated their oath or affirmation to support and uphold the Constitution of the United States -- including its Second Amendment -- as the "supreme" or highest law of the land, then that is what they can expect, not any aid or comfort from U.S. armed forces. The due process of law does not afford so much grace to inveterate oathbreakers.

The charges are out there. The Federal government, the Dept of Justice and Attorney General Barr, disagree with you. Why don't you write them a nasty letter of rebuke for the arrest and charges. I cannot help you.

 

[Nostra]

If one has a lick of sense they'll leave open carrying alone

Answer the question, dipshit.
Why does anybody need to carry a gun to a legal, peaceful protest???
Your deflection is noted, pussy.

The same reason someone may carry a gun when they go to the store. You never know when you may need it. I would argue that given recent history of the left, I would be much more likely to carry at a protest than going to the grocery store. I would be much more likely to carry, if it was legal, in big inner cities than in most small rural towns because I am statistically much more likely to need it. Just a little common sense goes a long way.

I seem to recall that Gabby Giffords was shot in a Safeway parking lot. The night I was assaulted, I was on my way to Circle K. So yeah, just because your intention is to do something routine and innocuous like going to a store doesn't mean it can't end with someone else's evil plan to attack you.

Yep. Republicans were just playing softball at a park when an Obama lover showed up and started blasting them.

 

[Nostra]

W

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

Open carry is for pussy bois who are afraid someone will question their masculinity. Beta males in other words.

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Open carry is about people who WILL NOT allow their God-given rights to be trampled, sheep.

Bullshit. It is about a bunch of short dicked,pussies that think they become tough guys by carrying a gun.

Bullshit. It is about a bunch of short-dicked, panty-wearing pussies that think they can shame people into not defending themselves. Take a bow, panty-wearer. And figure out that no one in this country is going to forego their Second Amendment rights because they're desperate for YOUR approval of their masculinity.

If you need a big gun to prove to yourself you are masculine then you aren't.

Beta males open carry.

trolls parrot the same tired line over and over.

When your telling the truth you don't need anything else.

Sorry for your luck.

How would you know?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
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So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.
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Again YOU NOT I made a claim, YOU NOT I claimed open carry protests were dangerous and a problem, PLEASE cite for us an example of that being true.

 

[cwise76]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

Oh don’t worry, it’s just a matter of time til some knuckle dragging Trump supporter squeezes one off. As I’ve stated before: Prison is where you assholes are headed, so be prepared.

 

[Nostra]

You

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

Oh don’t worry, it’s just a matter of time til some knuckle dragging Trump supporter squeezes one off. As I’ve stated before: Prison is where you assholes are headed, so be prepared.

You nutless cucks have been predicting that since he was elected.

 

[White 6]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
View attachment 426819

Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
View attachment 426996

Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
View attachment 427015

So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.
View attachment 427027

Again YOU NOT I made a claim, YOU NOT I claimed open carry protests were dangerous and a problem, PLEASE cite for us an example of that being true.

Maybe you can relate to this:
With all due respect, your beginning to bore the hell out me.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

View attachment 426357

Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
View attachment 426366

So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
View attachment 426819

Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
View attachment 426996

Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
View attachment 427015

So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.
View attachment 427027

Again YOU NOT I made a claim, YOU NOT I claimed open carry protests were dangerous and a problem, PLEASE cite for us an example of that being true.

Maybe you can relate to this:
With all due respect, your beginning to bore the hell out me.
View attachment 427060

Of course I am cause you got nothing, no evidence no facts no proof. You made an ignorant claim that can not be backed up with ANYTHING. You either lied or are just to stupid to know you are wrong.

 

[White 6]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

View attachment 426357

Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
View attachment 426366

So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
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So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.
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Again YOU NOT I made a claim, YOU NOT I claimed open carry protests were dangerous and a problem, PLEASE cite for us an example of that being true.

Maybe you can relate to this:
With all due respect, your beginning to bore the hell out me.
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Of course I am cause you got nothing, no evidence no facts no proof. You made an ignorant claim that can not be backed up with ANYTHING. You either lied or are just to stupid to know you are wrong.

Opinions vary. To me, yours doesn't count for much. Aren't you supposed to be loading up for the riot at your town that has been going for 9 months?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

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Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
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So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
View attachment 426996

Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
View attachment 427015

So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.
View attachment 427027

Again YOU NOT I made a claim, YOU NOT I claimed open carry protests were dangerous and a problem, PLEASE cite for us an example of that being true.

Maybe you can relate to this:
With all due respect, your beginning to bore the hell out me.
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Of course I am cause you got nothing, no evidence no facts no proof. You made an ignorant claim that can not be backed up with ANYTHING. You either lied or are just to stupid to know you are wrong.

Opinions vary. To me, yours doesn't count for much. Aren't you supposed to be loading up for the riot at your town that has been going for 9 months?

God you are stupid , be specific now and cited where I said my town had a riot for 9 months.

 

[White 6]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

View attachment 426357

Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
View attachment 426366

So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
View attachment 426819

Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
View attachment 426996

Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
View attachment 427015

So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.
View attachment 427027

Again YOU NOT I made a claim, YOU NOT I claimed open carry protests were dangerous and a problem, PLEASE cite for us an example of that being true.

Maybe you can relate to this:
With all due respect, your beginning to bore the hell out me.
View attachment 427060

Of course I am cause you got nothing, no evidence no facts no proof. You made an ignorant claim that can not be backed up with ANYTHING. You either lied or are just to stupid to know you are wrong.

Opinions vary. To me, yours doesn't count for much. Aren't you supposed to be loading up for the riot at your town that has been going for 9 months?

God you are stupid , be specific now and cited where I said my town had a riot for 9 months.

" I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. " Post #294
I don't. Pretty peaceful here this year.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

So a bunch of Trumptoids planted themselves in front of the MI secretary of state's home Saturday night to protest the election, many of them were armed.
Why the fuck did anybody need to bring a gun if they wanted a truly "peaceful protest"?????
It just takes on drunk Trumptoid to cause someone harm or even death.
This woman was inside her house with her four-year-old child alone.
What the fuck is WRONG with you stupid motherfuckers????

"
Outside Benson's home on Saturday night, "at least one individual could be heard shouting 'you're murderers' within earshot of her child's bedroom," Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a joint statement with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy.""""

Michigan Secretary Of State Says Armed Protesters Descended On Her Home Saturday

Saturday's protesters said they weren't there to cause trouble. The incident took place two months after the FBI thwarted an alleged plot by militia members to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

www.npr.org

First of all, I don't need to justify to you why I carry a gun. It is MY second amendment right. Second, I have heard of a Trump supporter that has killed anyone, unlike the Trump supporter that was MURDERED in Portland by a DNC/Antifa thug this summer. Third, these protesters are exercising their first amendment rights to address their representatives. If she doesn't like what they have to say, too bad. Fourth, why weren't you screaming when the DNC/BLM/Antifa thugs were burning/looting and defacing all summer long? And lastly if you don't want YOUR mother fucked, KEEP HER OFF THE STREETS. WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU--LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

Wasn't the gun nut down at the Texas Wall Mart (where free open carry long guns like a gold standard, is so common people did not know to be concerned until it was too late) a trump supporter. He killed several.

View attachment 426357

Maybe, but I just did a search just now with the search argument Was the Texas Wall Mart Shooter a trump supporter? This is what it returned 5 minutes ago, so I am not the only one with this impression.
View attachment 426366

So?

Anything on topic, Buttercup?

Just responding to the guy saying was unaware of any trump supporter shooting anybody and it was just the first open carry killing by a supposed trump supporter incident that came to mind, honey. But thanks for playing, dude.

You mean the hero that took out one of your child molesters?

No. He shot walmart shoppers and maybe employees. If any were child molesters, it was not reported in main stream or bat crap crazy news outlets.

Congressional baseball shooter fired at least 70 rounds, cased area for months

The shooting at a congressional baseball practice in June and the methods of the gunman behind it are described in the starkest detail yet in a report released Friday by Virginia officials.

www.cnn.com

I remember the nut ball shooter. That guy was an ass hole. He died of his injuries, which does not hurt my feelings in the least. What is your point?

Using your logic, he represents all Dimwinger supporters.

The dead nut ball shooter? No your conclusion is not logical and do not know what gave you that idea. I certainly never said it. Are you have visions or hearing voices only in your head?

So, you are backing off your obsession with the El Paso nutball shooter supposedly supporting Trump?

You mean he doesn't? Give me a link or a search argument. I'll read it. I could be wrong. It is just that nobody has shown me being wrong. They've only acted insulted for the poor killer nut ball, that I would impugn him as being a trump supporter. I showed where a lot of people had that impression. Nobody has linked to anything saying otherwise. Link away, dude.

You really are dumb. If you want to claim the El Paso nutbag has something to do with Trump, then the nutbag who shot up the Republican softball team is on the Dimwinger party.

You can't have it both ways.

I suspect the the dead nut ball that shot up the congressional softball game is a democrat and never said he wasn't. The guy said he never heard of a trump supporter doing that sort of thing. I just pitched out the first one that came to mind and when challenged showed links to articles saying the same thing. I think there are gun happy fools out there on both sides. Having been on a range with rightwing nut balls, am definitely distrustful of them. Seen enough nut balls on YouTube of undetermined or left wing, that I do not trust them either.

The first one? How about the ONLY one and it is not proven at ALL.

Boogaloo boys far right enough for your parameters? They kill people. They are anti government but in the trump corner, I always thought, because he is the anti government president. Always like the irony of that.

I am not advocating for the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, BLM, Antifa or any other whack job group that breaks the law and neither is Trump contrary to the BS that you are spreading, but those far right groups have not done anywhere near the damage in real or human numbers that BLM and Antifa have done. You left wing whack jobs are going to keep pushing BS and you are not going to be happy with what you reap.

Well I don't know. The radical left definitely suck and are dangerous as you say, but don't get too close the the militia guys as they may well get you killed also by intent or dumb assed lack of discipline. Basically anybody that goes to a protest/riot at night are the dumb asses and potential bad guys de jure. The right wing one just easier to spot with all their BDUs, weapons and LBE hanging out. Left is intent. Much of the far right is undisciplined cowboy gun nut stupidity. If you hate the left with a passion and it makes you feel good fine. Just saying watch bot those sides and stay away from the "Johnney's first full auto" crowd. Better yet, just skip going downtown to the riot and you'll probably be able to avoid both.

And yet you can not list not cite for us a SINGLE incident where any right wing group opened fire at a protest, But we can list dozens of murders fires rioting destruction and looting that was done by the left.

Just these, but not like I searched long. Just used the argument "right wing militia shoots"
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Once again EVEN if the three you listed were really righties that is small beans compared to the death and mayhe from the last 9 months all committed by the left. And you can not prove all 3 are in fact from the right.

Probably about the same as you proving the left is the only one to blame. I accuse both sides, Sarge. Being a centrist, I am not too bought in to the us against them shit show going on in the American political culture and being exhorted by the right.
The thread is about open carry, which I do not support in regards to long guns. If you do, fine. Showing the strength in weapons unless forced is not what is taught in any tactic class I took or taught. If you are indeed retired army and of a combat arms background, you know I just gave you a true statement, almost straight out of a chapter on "The meeting engagement" in Armored Cavalry FM.
On the civilian side, showing weapons to intimidate, only works against those, both fearful and rational, other than that it just provokes. Mobs have mob mentality and do not exhibit their fear and definitely do not react as rational individuals, but more like stampedes. My experience with militia people on a range, do not show the self discipline or organizational trained discipline to meet the basic definition of a well regulated militia, though I totally support their 2nd amendment right to have and keep their weapons as I have mine in support of my personal defense. At protests or counter protests, they are fuckups waiting to happen. To say I have little respect for the militia movement is an understatement, though I have no respect for far left agitators or rabid BLM people.

Hey RETARD, I am a Marine. NOT in the Army. Retired Marine. Again for the slow and stupid, you can not cite a single incident whee a group of open carry people resorted to shooting ANYONE. I have 9 MONTHS of riots Burning Looting, MURDER and mayhem.

Well that explains you falling in line without regard for thinking for yourself. If you live somewhere, where you have had 9 months of rioting and have not moved, you are dumber than a rock. No matter how they actually deploy and are used, you really think their tactic manuals say different than what I stated? Wake up and smell what your are shoveling.

I a not the one claiming peaceful demonstration with ABSOLUTELY NO violence mayhem or rioting are somehow more onerous then riots murder burning and looting, that would be you. Again cite for us any protest with open carry that broke into violence. I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. You have ZERO violent protests by righties and yet you claim it is somehow worse then the left.

Done all the research (not much) that your position is worth. Again, if you have 9 months of violent protests in your vicinity, you should move. Not an invitation, but we're not having your problem here nor in most places across this country, for that matter. Nobody ordering you to stay there and defend. Remember, you are retired. I am not even going to visit the city and especially the small segment of a city that has had it. It is your problem. Walk 6 blocks and make your stand or move. I will watch on TV news, thank you very much.

You are such a lying asshole, the riots occurred across the country in numerous locations and I REPEAT, CITE an incident where open carry protest has resulted in violence.... You keep claiming it is a problem, BUT can ot cite a single incident were it has lead to violence. NOT ONE. All one need do is preview the news over the las 9 months to have dozens of examples of left wing violence. You are a liar a moron and stupid to boot.

Here is something for your butt hurt. I am sure your friends will enjoy it too.
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Still waiting for an example of when an open carry protest turned violent.

Those cows have not come home. Doubt they ever will, but you a can keep waiting.
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So in other words the supposed threat you claim doesn't ACTUALLY exist while you ignore 9 months of violence and mayhem by leftists.

You still don't get it. Try this.
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Again YOU NOT I made a claim, YOU NOT I claimed open carry protests were dangerous and a problem, PLEASE cite for us an example of that being true.

Maybe you can relate to this:
With all due respect, your beginning to bore the hell out me.
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Of course I am cause you got nothing, no evidence no facts no proof. You made an ignorant claim that can not be backed up with ANYTHING. You either lied or are just to stupid to know you are wrong.

Opinions vary. To me, yours doesn't count for much. Aren't you supposed to be loading up for the riot at your town that has been going for 9 months?

God you are stupid , be specific now and cited where I said my town had a riot for 9 months.

" I have 9 months of violent protests by lefties. " Post #294
I don't. Pretty peaceful here this year.

That is country wide you buffoon. I guess you are just to stupid to watch read or hear the news hell I dont even watch the news I get mine second hand or from the internet. all the big democratic run cities went up in flames along with several smaller ones in de states after the local Governor and Mayor refused to send in the police or Guard. Portland went on for months.