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This one is for the gun grabbers. Explain this.

Well I have bad news for ya, and that is it only takes a second to drop a magazine and insert another one. Banning high capacity magazines wouldn't accomplish anything:



So I need to post reload fail movies? Happens all the time. It is physics, reloads slow the shooter.


What is a reload failure? I never heard of such a thing.

If you know anything about guns, you'd realize what the shooter in the video clip did. HIs first magazine had two rounds in it. He only shot one. The reason he did so is so that he didn't have to put the new round in the chamber after he switched to the second magazine. Now imagine if those were 6 round magazines. It wouldn't have slowed him down one bit. Or are you saying we should outlaw high capacity magazines so a person can only kill 60 people instead of 61, and call that a worthwhile success?


Really? And where would he put all these six round mags? Would love to see him do that with 30 of them.


A back pack, a vest with many pockets, if in a stationary position like a hotel room, just lay them on a table next to him anywhere, if in a car, right on the passenger seat......... The Vegas killer may have killed more people without rigging his gun. Those guns jammed from the heat more than likely and his slaughter would have been to a greater extent using those guns what they were designed for.



Ok you make a video of your reloading several times while getting your magazines from a backpack. Love to see that.


I'm sure I could if it interested me and I had the money to do it. I spent several years in martial arts and it's a system of self-defense of calculated and practiced moves. Like anything else, the more you do it, the better you get at it.
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.
 
So I need to post reload fail movies? Happens all the time. It is physics, reloads slow the shooter.

What is a reload failure? I never heard of such a thing.

If you know anything about guns, you'd realize what the shooter in the video clip did. HIs first magazine had two rounds in it. He only shot one. The reason he did so is so that he didn't have to put the new round in the chamber after he switched to the second magazine. Now imagine if those were 6 round magazines. It wouldn't have slowed him down one bit. Or are you saying we should outlaw high capacity magazines so a person can only kill 60 people instead of 61, and call that a worthwhile success?

Really? And where would he put all these six round mags? Would love to see him do that with 30 of them.

A back pack, a vest with many pockets, if in a stationary position like a hotel room, just lay them on a table next to him anywhere, if in a car, right on the passenger seat......... The Vegas killer may have killed more people without rigging his gun. Those guns jammed from the heat more than likely and his slaughter would have been to a greater extent using those guns what they were designed for.



Ok you make a video of your reloading several times while getting your magazines from a backpack. Love to see that.


I'm sure I could if it interested me and I had the money to do it. I spent several years in martial arts and it's a system of self-defense of calculated and practiced moves. Like anything else, the more you do it, the better you get at it.


Then go for it. Will be very entertaining. Unless you don't want to back up your claim.
 
I love how you guys think every mass shooter is as good as a professional shooter.


Who says this guy is a professional shooter? There are courses that teach these kinds of tactics, and you post videos of people just practicing the technique.

Why don't you post a video of a kid behind the wheel of a car for the first time? :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:


And many of them are people who have shot a lot. The fact of the matter is reload failures happen to everybody. And I prefer they happen often to mass shooters. You however want them to be as well armed as possible for maximum death.


And you want to create some idiotic law that won't stop one mass shooting or any other shooting for that matter.
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.


Trust me, you don't want to go there. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight because I have plenty of links that explain the success of Australia.
 
I love how you guys think every mass shooter is as good as a professional shooter.


Who says this guy is a professional shooter? There are courses that teach these kinds of tactics, and you post videos of people just practicing the technique.

Why don't you post a video of a kid behind the wheel of a car for the first time? :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:


And many of them are people who have shot a lot. The fact of the matter is reload failures happen to everybody. And I prefer they happen often to mass shooters. You however want them to be as well armed as possible for maximum death.


And you want to create some idiotic law that won't stop one mass shooting or any other shooting for that matter.



idiots wanting idiotic and useless laws

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I love how you guys think every mass shooter is as good as a professional shooter.


Who says this guy is a professional shooter? There are courses that teach these kinds of tactics, and you post videos of people just practicing the technique.

Why don't you post a video of a kid behind the wheel of a car for the first time? :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:


And many of them are people who have shot a lot. The fact of the matter is reload failures happen to everybody. And I prefer they happen often to mass shooters. You however want them to be as well armed as possible for maximum death.


And you want to create some idiotic law that won't stop one mass shooting or any other shooting for that matter.


Yes saving lives is idiotic. Idiotic is arming people legally with mass killing weapons. Look at Orlando. Even with an off duty officer for security he killed 50 and injured over 50. That is with armed police there from the very start! Idiotic arming people that way legally.
 
I love how you guys think every mass shooter is as good as a professional shooter.


Who says this guy is a professional shooter? There are courses that teach these kinds of tactics, and you post videos of people just practicing the technique.

Why don't you post a video of a kid behind the wheel of a car for the first time? :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:


And many of them are people who have shot a lot. The fact of the matter is reload failures happen to everybody. And I prefer they happen often to mass shooters. You however want them to be as well armed as possible for maximum death.


And you want to create some idiotic law that won't stop one mass shooting or any other shooting for that matter.



idiots wanting idiotic and useless laws

fitting


Funny that places with those useless laws aren't burying law enforcement every week. Aren't suffering mass shootings regularly. They don't have constant road rage shootings...
 
Wyoming has more guns per capita than any other state. They have open carry, and you do not need a permit to carry concealed. Yet the crime rate is 40 percent less than the national average, with some cities well below that. Some of them are among the safest places to live in America. So, if guns are the problem, as you believe, why aren't people being gunned down in the streets?
WhaView attachment 156862 t I get a kick out of is your using this one example to prove a point , so I'll use one example that is by far more powerful then yours to explain what happens with guns around


Yeah nice photo.....where did you get it...Everytown for gun confiscation?

Here ....

Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide



There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world. According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.

Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).

Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).

Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)

Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.
When your just a brain dead gun bubba you look at the chart and don't even realize that homicides here in the US are worse then Homicides and suicides everywhere else. You know dam well that if they are gun bubba's they aren't very bright. They have their own interpretation of the second even though it's clear that all courts in this country tell them, hay stupid I decide what constitutional or not, not you brain dead gun bubbas.
 
So I need to post reload fail movies? Happens all the time. It is physics, reloads slow the shooter.

What is a reload failure? I never heard of such a thing.

If you know anything about guns, you'd realize what the shooter in the video clip did. HIs first magazine had two rounds in it. He only shot one. The reason he did so is so that he didn't have to put the new round in the chamber after he switched to the second magazine. Now imagine if those were 6 round magazines. It wouldn't have slowed him down one bit. Or are you saying we should outlaw high capacity magazines so a person can only kill 60 people instead of 61, and call that a worthwhile success?

Really? And where would he put all these six round mags? Would love to see him do that with 30 of them.

A back pack, a vest with many pockets, if in a stationary position like a hotel room, just lay them on a table next to him anywhere, if in a car, right on the passenger seat......... The Vegas killer may have killed more people without rigging his gun. Those guns jammed from the heat more than likely and his slaughter would have been to a greater extent using those guns what they were designed for.



Ok you make a video of your reloading several times while getting your magazines from a backpack. Love to see that.


I'm sure I could if it interested me and I had the money to do it. I spent several years in martial arts and it's a system of self-defense of calculated and practiced moves. Like anything else, the more you do it, the better you get at it.


The nice thing about legal semi-autos with high capacity magazines is that our mass killers don't even have to train right? Just arm them up with weapons for mass killing and its easy.
 
The right wing itself is by far the biggest threat to the 2nd, with their policy of no regulations on Firearms. That above anything else will get it dumped because people who have brains knows that guns have to be regulated and will get in power and do just that, to shut stupid remarks from the Gun Bubbas.


What do you mean? No regulations on firearms...there are close to 20-40,000 regulations on guns in this country...what we don't have is a justice system that will keep violent gun offenders in jail for 30 years....
Maybe you don't have a fricken clue how many gun regulations we have in the country, if the best you can do is saying a asinine figure from 20 to 400,000, gee I wonder why I don't believe you. There is a whole line of gun regulations that have to be implemented. The crime problem is yours I'm just working on the number of small children who are killing them selves or being killed by their gun bubba's parents. Playing cowboys and indians.
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.

Actually, you're an idiot, or you are deliberately spreading false information. Since the 90's we have about twice as many privately owned firearms, and shootings are down 49%. That's a fact. Now, don't you look incredibly stupid?
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.

Actually, you're an idiot, or you are deliberately spreading false information. Since the 90's we have about twice as many privately owned firearms, and shootings are down 49%. That's a fact. Now, don't you look incredibly stupid?


You mean since the Bill Clinton crime bill and gun control? Yes that was very effective against crime. Now with concealed carry ramping up what do we get?
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.

Actually, you're an idiot, or you are deliberately spreading false information. Since the 90's we have about twice as many privately owned firearms, and shootings are down 49%. That's a fact. Now, don't you look incredibly stupid?


Have you noticed how often we are having the worst mass shooting in history? Last year it was Orlando. Now it's Vegas. Maybe you aren't aware, but most consider more people dying in mass shootings bad.
 
I always love these gun Bubba threads, it's always so fun watching them redefine the second each and everyone of these gun bubba's having a different opinion what it means. Then telling us that they are the only people who know what the second means. The only people that can decide if a law is constitutional or not is the court and they have made hundreds of decision on each and every Amendment and the humor is that about 90% off what gun bubba's say is totally wrong and has been decided by the court 100% against them. So when you ask what the amendment means you are really asking what the court has decided the amendment means. Boy does that confuse these small minds.
 
I love how you guys think every mass shooter is as good as a professional shooter.


Who says this guy is a professional shooter? There are courses that teach these kinds of tactics, and you post videos of people just practicing the technique.

Why don't you post a video of a kid behind the wheel of a car for the first time? :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:


And many of them are people who have shot a lot. The fact of the matter is reload failures happen to everybody. And I prefer they happen often to mass shooters. You however want them to be as well armed as possible for maximum death.


And you want to create some idiotic law that won't stop one mass shooting or any other shooting for that matter.


Yes saving lives is idiotic. Idiotic is arming people legally with mass killing weapons. Look at Orlando. Even with an off duty officer for security he killed 50 and injured over 50. That is with armed police there from the very start! Idiotic arming people that way legally.


So how would limiting magazines would have stopped it?
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.

Actually, you're an idiot, or you are deliberately spreading false information. Since the 90's we have about twice as many privately owned firearms, and shootings are down 49%. That's a fact. Now, don't you look incredibly stupid?


Have you noticed how often we are having the worst mass shooting in history? Last year it was Orlando. Now it's Vegas. Maybe you aren't aware, but most consider more people dying in mass shootings bad.


Yet our two biggest mass murders (911 and Oklahoma City Bombing) didn't involve one gun.
 
I love how you guys think every mass shooter is as good as a professional shooter.


Who says this guy is a professional shooter? There are courses that teach these kinds of tactics, and you post videos of people just practicing the technique.

Why don't you post a video of a kid behind the wheel of a car for the first time? :badgrin::badgrin::badgrin:


And many of them are people who have shot a lot. The fact of the matter is reload failures happen to everybody. And I prefer they happen often to mass shooters. You however want them to be as well armed as possible for maximum death.


And you want to create some idiotic law that won't stop one mass shooting or any other shooting for that matter.


Yes saving lives is idiotic. Idiotic is arming people legally with mass killing weapons. Look at Orlando. Even with an off duty officer for security he killed 50 and injured over 50. That is with armed police there from the very start! Idiotic arming people that way legally.


So how would limiting magazines would have stopped it?


The off duty officer would not have been completely outgunned. He could have stopped it rather than have to retreat.
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.

Actually, you're an idiot, or you are deliberately spreading false information. Since the 90's we have about twice as many privately owned firearms, and shootings are down 49%. That's a fact. Now, don't you look incredibly stupid?


Have you noticed how often we are having the worst mass shooting in history? Last year it was Orlando. Now it's Vegas. Maybe you aren't aware, but most consider more people dying in mass shootings bad.


Yet our two biggest mass murders (911 and Oklahoma City Bombing) didn't involve one gun.


Bomb making is illegal...
 
Yes lets make it as easy for mass shooters as possible. Don't make them reload.


So your concern is making it easy on them or actually solving a problem? Because your suggestion doesn't solve anything.


Well Australia solved the problem. Gun control is the only thing that has solved that problem. More guns aren't working here, just worse shootings.

Actually, you're an idiot, or you are deliberately spreading false information. Since the 90's we have about twice as many privately owned firearms, and shootings are down 49%. That's a fact. Now, don't you look incredibly stupid?


You mean since the Bill Clinton crime bill and gun control? Yes that was very effective against crime. Now with concealed carry ramping up what do we get?
FBI: Violent crime increases for second straight year


Why don't you bring up the FACT that during the increase of more gun sales and states adopting CCW laws violent crime actually dropped? It's been dropping for the past few decades until the leftists started this war against police officers which led to the Ferguson effect.
 

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