This photo captures the difference between socialists and freedom loving capitalists...

[2aguy]

Thirty years war
French wars of religion
Second sudanese civil war
Crusades
Lebanese civil war
etc..

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes?

The Second Sudanese Civil War was a conflict from 1983 to 2005 between the central Sudanese government and the Sudan People's Liberation Army. It was largely a continuation of the First Sudanese Civil War of 1955 to 1972.

Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

It's true....Germany, Russia, china, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia.......add up their murder as atheists and it is close to if not over 100 million.......in the modern age...by men with modern educations....

I didn't even include the 50+ million by the Asians....

So Buddhism is not a religion?

Mao wasn't a budhist...he was a socialist/atheist and murdered 70 million people...

 

[Moonglow]

No that's really not true. The very high and steeply progressive tax rates keep people from becoming very wealthy. That's why people come here. Or used to
Where is the equivalent of Sergey Brin and Bill Gates in Europe?

That is the key...bill gates and warren buffet and wal mart....they want high tax rates...because it keeps small businesses from becoming their competitors...warren buffet also has companies that do estate planning and that is more profitable when the tax rates are excessive....buffet and gates also hide all of their money in their foundations as they claim to be giving it to charity when they die and yell for higher taxes...on everyone else.....

They want high tax rates, and walmart doesn't want higher taxes, LOL.
Gates/buffet want higher taxes on the really wealthy, not small businesses. Jesus christ.

You don't know gates and buffet......they don't pay their taxes......they hide their money in their foundations where they get huge tax advantages.....

Gates actually helps people, so does buffet.

As does Wal Mart.....I like what Gates does, and buffet...but they are assholes when they call for higher taxes while they hide their money in their foundations...if they believed their crap they would write massive checks to the government on tax day......they don't....

Apparently they are wasting their time going to a Christian church also, one that advocates giving away your accumulated wealth to enter heaven...

 

[David_42]

Thirty years war
French wars of religion
Second sudanese civil war
Crusades
Lebanese civil war
etc..

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes?

The Second Sudanese Civil War was a conflict from 1983 to 2005 between the central Sudanese government and the Sudan People's Liberation Army. It was largely a continuation of the First Sudanese Civil War of 1955 to 1972.

Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

No you can't, hitler was an atheist.......the nazi party were atheists or pagans.....Germans were non practicing Christians for the most part...

"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."

 

[Darkwind]

Many? You can name these religious wars?

Thirty years war
French wars of religion
Second sudanese civil war
Crusades
Lebanese civil war
etc..

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes?

The Second Sudanese Civil War was a conflict from 1983 to 2005 between the central Sudanese government and the Sudan People's Liberation Army. It was largely a continuation of the First Sudanese Civil War of 1955 to 1972.

Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

 

[2aguy]

That is the key...bill gates and warren buffet and wal mart....they want high tax rates...because it keeps small businesses from becoming their competitors...warren buffet also has companies that do estate planning and that is more profitable when the tax rates are excessive....buffet and gates also hide all of their money in their foundations as they claim to be giving it to charity when they die and yell for higher taxes...on everyone else.....

They want high tax rates, and walmart doesn't want higher taxes, LOL.
Gates/buffet want higher taxes on the really wealthy, not small businesses. Jesus christ.

You don't know gates and buffet......they don't pay their taxes......they hide their money in their foundations where they get huge tax advantages.....

Gates actually helps people, so does buffet.

As does Wal Mart.....I like what Gates does, and buffet...but they are assholes when they call for higher taxes while they hide their money in their foundations...if they believed their crap they would write massive checks to the government on tax day......they don't....

Walmart helps people? LOL. Sure, sure, back that up.

Really......you answer like that....I shop there all the time they employ thousands of people and make lives better all over the country...you lefties really can't see the truth or reality can you?

 

[David_42]

Thirty years war
French wars of religion
Second sudanese civil war
Crusades
Lebanese civil war
etc..

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes?

The Second Sudanese Civil War was a conflict from 1983 to 2005 between the central Sudanese government and the Sudan People's Liberation Army. It was largely a continuation of the First Sudanese Civil War of 1955 to 1972.

Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

 

[Darkwind]

That is the key...bill gates and warren buffet and wal mart....they want high tax rates...because it keeps small businesses from becoming their competitors...warren buffet also has companies that do estate planning and that is more profitable when the tax rates are excessive....buffet and gates also hide all of their money in their foundations as they claim to be giving it to charity when they die and yell for higher taxes...on everyone else.....

They want high tax rates, and walmart doesn't want higher taxes, LOL.
Gates/buffet want higher taxes on the really wealthy, not small businesses. Jesus christ.

You don't know gates and buffet......they don't pay their taxes......they hide their money in their foundations where they get huge tax advantages.....

Gates actually helps people, so does buffet.

As does Wal Mart.....I like what Gates does, and buffet...but they are assholes when they call for higher taxes while they hide their money in their foundations...if they believed their crap they would write massive checks to the government on tax day......they don't....

Apparently they are wasting their time going to a Christian church also, one that advocates giving away your accumulated wealth to enter heaven...

Never heard that one.....At its height...religion advocates 10%.....which is why I am not a member of any formal or organized religion.

 

[2aguy]

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes? Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

No you can't, hitler was an atheist.......the nazi party were atheists or pagans.....Germans were non practicing Christians for the most part...

"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."

Yeah....right...one thing he said for public consumption, read what his inner circle said about his real beliefs...

 

[David_42]

They want high tax rates, and walmart doesn't want higher taxes, LOL.
Gates/buffet want higher taxes on the really wealthy, not small businesses. Jesus christ.

You don't know gates and buffet......they don't pay their taxes......they hide their money in their foundations where they get huge tax advantages.....

Gates actually helps people, so does buffet.

As does Wal Mart.....I like what Gates does, and buffet...but they are assholes when they call for higher taxes while they hide their money in their foundations...if they believed their crap they would write massive checks to the government on tax day......they don't....

Walmart helps people? LOL. Sure, sure, back that up.

Really......you answer like that....I shop there all the time they employ thousands of people and make lives better all over the country...you lefties really can't see the truth or reality can you?

LOL. What do their workers get paid? Maternity leave? Health benefits? Walmart crushes small businesses, and rely on third world labor to make cheap products.

 

[David_42]

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

No you can't, hitler was an atheist.......the nazi party were atheists or pagans.....Germans were non practicing Christians for the most part...

"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."

Yeah....right...one thing he said for public consumption, read what his inner circle said about his real beliefs...

Oh please, this is getting ridiculous. I have better things to do.

 

[2aguy]

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes? Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

No you can't, hitler was an atheist.......the nazi party were atheists or pagans.....Germans were non practicing Christians for the most part...

"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."

His inner circle new the truth about hitler and religion...

Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

while historians such as Ian Kershaw, Joachim Fest and Alan Bullock agree that Hitler was anti-Christian - a view evidenced by sources such as the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Speer, and the transcripts edited by Martin Bormann contained withinHitler's Table Talk.[6] Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity."[7] Many historians have come to the conclusion that Hitler's long-term aim was the eradication of Christianity in Germany,[8]

 

[David_42]

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

No you can't, hitler was an atheist.......the nazi party were atheists or pagans.....Germans were non practicing Christians for the most part...

"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."

His inner circle new the truth about hitler and religion...

Religious views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

while historians such as Ian Kershaw, Joachim Fest and Alan Bullock agree that Hitler was anti-Christian - a view evidenced by sources such as the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Speer, and the transcripts edited by Martin Bormann contained withinHitler's Table Talk.[6] Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity."[7] Many historians have come to the conclusion that Hitler's long-term aim was the eradication of Christianity in Germany,[8]

So, no consensus?

 

[Darkwind]

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes? Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

He also wrote Mien Kampf......

Consider that.

However, it was clear by many of his writing and speeches he had no need for religion and thought the state (HIM) was all powerful.....Its a matter of historical record...

He was a humanist at worst....an agnositic at best....completely crazy and anti-religious.....


Oh, and responsible for 55 million deaths.

 

[David_42]

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

He also wrote Mien Kampf......

Consider that.

However, it was clear by many of his writing and speeches he had no need for religion and thought the state (HIM) was all powerful.....Its a matter of historical record...

He was a humanist at worst....an agnositic at best....completely crazy and anti-religious.....


Oh, and responsible for 55 million deaths.

Historians can barely decide if he was a christian or an atheist at the end of his life, I won't listen to your pathetic partisan bullshit.

 

[Darkwind]

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

He also wrote Mien Kampf......

Consider that.

However, it was clear by many of his writing and speeches he had no need for religion and thought the state (HIM) was all powerful.....Its a matter of historical record...

He was a humanist at worst....an agnositic at best....completely crazy and anti-religious.....


Oh, and responsible for 55 million deaths.

Historians can barely decide if he was a christian or an atheist at the end of his life, I won't listen to your pathetic partisan bullshit.

Well, you are welcome to not listen. I, however, will continue to paint him as anti-religion, fully humanist, and the architect of the second largest killing of humans in the history of the world.

 

[Moonglow]

So, from 1618 and 1648......
and
from 1562–98

Oh, the Sudanese civil war.....is a civil war....yes? Not much religion going on there, eh?

Crusades? You sensing a theme yet?
1091 to 1291....

Lebonese Civil War.......again with a civil war and not a religious one?

So, lets add them up....11m for your first...
I can't find a quick total for the second...lets give it 11m as well
2m people
the crusades...difficult to pin down an exact number...lets say 1m
lebanese civil war...120k...

Grand total over 1000 years....26 million...

Secular humanists in the past 100 years.......110 million..

Want to try that again?

"Some sources describe the conflict as an ethnoreligious one where the Muslim central government's pursuits to impose sharia law on non-Muslim southerners led to violence, and eventually to the civil war.[6][7][8][9] Douglas Johnson has pointed to an exploitative governance as the root cause.[10]"
Secular humanists killed 110 million? What a dishonest hack.

It's true....Germany, Russia, china, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia.......add up their murder as atheists and it is close to if not over 100 million.......in the modern age...by men with modern educations....

I didn't even include the 50+ million by the Asians....

So Buddhism is not a religion?

Mao wasn't a budhist...he was a socialist/atheist and murdered 70 million people...

He was a communist which is a type of socialist..just not the nice kind...

They want high tax rates, and walmart doesn't want higher taxes, LOL.
Gates/buffet want higher taxes on the really wealthy, not small businesses. Jesus christ.

You don't know gates and buffet......they don't pay their taxes......they hide their money in their foundations where they get huge tax advantages.....

Gates actually helps people, so does buffet.

As does Wal Mart.....I like what Gates does, and buffet...but they are assholes when they call for higher taxes while they hide their money in their foundations...if they believed their crap they would write massive checks to the government on tax day......they don't....

Apparently they are wasting their time going to a Christian church also, one that advocates giving away your accumulated wealth to enter heaven...

Never heard that one.....At its height...religion advocates 10%.....which is why I am not a member of any formal or organized religion.

For tything....yes, but to gain entrance to Heaven you must vocate a vow of poverty...

 

[David_42]

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

He also wrote Mien Kampf......

Consider that.

However, it was clear by many of his writing and speeches he had no need for religion and thought the state (HIM) was all powerful.....Its a matter of historical record...

He was a humanist at worst....an agnositic at best....completely crazy and anti-religious.....


Oh, and responsible for 55 million deaths.

Historians can barely decide if he was a christian or an atheist at the end of his life, I won't listen to your pathetic partisan bullshit.

Well, you are welcome to not listen. I, however, will continue to paint him as anti-religion, fully humanist, and the architect of the second largest killing of humans in the history of the world.

Keep doing that.

 

[2aguy]

Bully for those sources....

It does not change My totals as I included them anyway...Of course, all of that is a rough approximation....I'm sure we can give or take a few million people either way..

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

He also wrote Mien Kampf......

Consider that.

However, it was clear by many of his writing and speeches he had no need for religion and thought the state (HIM) was all powerful.....Its a matter of historical record...

He was a humanist at worst....an agnositic at best....completely crazy and anti-religious.....


Oh, and responsible for 55 million deaths.

Historians can barely decide if he was a christian or an atheist at the end of his life, I won't listen to your pathetic partisan bullshit.

Ah...and so we show you where your democrat controlled education lied to you...and now you lash out......

 

[Darkwind]

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

He also wrote Mien Kampf......

Consider that.

However, it was clear by many of his writing and speeches he had no need for religion and thought the state (HIM) was all powerful.....Its a matter of historical record...

He was a humanist at worst....an agnositic at best....completely crazy and anti-religious.....


Oh, and responsible for 55 million deaths.

Historians can barely decide if he was a christian or an atheist at the end of his life, I won't listen to your pathetic partisan bullshit.

Well, you are welcome to not listen. I, however, will continue to paint him as anti-religion, fully humanist, and the architect of the second largest killing of humans in the history of the world.

Keep doing that.

I will....thanks....

How about those bears, eh?

 

[David_42]

Sources are the clickable numbers bud.
It's intellectually dishonest to attempt to attribute humanism to stalin/etc.. Want me to call hitler a christian? You could argue either way.

You can call them anything you want. History paints them as humanists..People who believed that God was not involved in human affairs or non existent....In other words, they believed in their own philosophy above that of religion......and they have killed more humans in the past century than all religions combined in all of human history.

The numbers don't lie....

History doesn't paint them as humanists, you paint them as humanists.
Hitler:
"Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself."
I won't blame christianity though.

He also wrote Mien Kampf......

Consider that.

However, it was clear by many of his writing and speeches he had no need for religion and thought the state (HIM) was all powerful.....Its a matter of historical record...

He was a humanist at worst....an agnositic at best....completely crazy and anti-religious.....


Oh, and responsible for 55 million deaths.

Historians can barely decide if he was a christian or an atheist at the end of his life, I won't listen to your pathetic partisan bullshit.

Ah...and so we show you where your democrat controlled education lied to you...and now you lash out......

Partisan stupidity at it's finest. Democrats do not control all education, how do you even measure that?