This time they should shut it down.

[francoHFW]

You don't know? That's what I'm trying to figure out, whether anyone actually knows what will and will not be "shut down" if this bill fails in the Senate. I don't think most people do. It seems that "government shutdown" has become just another panic term, along with communism and global warming.

is this really something good that any of us should hang our hats on?

Be honest, please.

What was bad is that it did not include Fannie and Freddie.There are exempt from the bill

Were NEVER the problem. Their share of the market went from 75% to 25% in 2003 when Booshie regulators let their pals run wild...change the gd channel, dupe.

They had proof that Freddie was doing illegal hedge fund trading.

AFTER a couple years, under Pub pressure.

During the Enron scandal.

Ridiculous.

 

[Vigilante]

do you think us tax payers should really be responsible for bailing wall street out for taking risks they should have and would have never taken if it were not for the fact that they know us tax payers will be responsible for their losses and mistakes?

seriously!

No I don't but I also didn't and still don't believe the taxpayer should have to subsidise the cost of other peoples insurance either but this bill funds Obamacare for the next fiscal year I'm sure we can all find something in it we don't like. Part of compromise is understanding your not going to get everything you want.

the RISK is too big to compromise on this Wall STREET Derivative FDIC backing, 100 times bigger and more costly than Obama care...

We don't know that because we don't know the full cost or impact of Obmacare as it has not been fully implemented yet but to date it has done little if any of what was promised and the cost have been more than advertised.

BS. Prices are coming DOWN in those states and areas cooperating. Sorry about dumbass red ones...

The PRICE of Obilacare....

 

[francoHFW]

Does anyone know what would actually be "shut down" if this bill doesn't pass?

The bill passed, no sense speculating!

GOOD for the country and good, COMPROMISING, gov't. We have the Consumer Protection Agency to watch those a-hole Pub crony real estaters...but you have heard of the Senate, right? They will pass it though. Lots of adults there- although fewer in January. But it DOES look the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" (TIME) insanity is over for a while, and hopefully forever.

Still time for Cruz/Palin 2016! though, hater dupes. lol

Yes, we will still vote American....

Jeebus what a brainwashed tool....enjoy seeing the nonrich and the country ruined, and no doubt screwing up the world and and being a laughingstock horror AGAIN. Can you say ideological idiocy incompetence and bigotry...

what does this matter to you, you Limey scumbag? Take care of your own country for a change!

I'm as American as you are, ugly American Pub chump. Sorry about being educated and well traveled.

 

[francoHFW]

do you think us tax payers should really be responsible for bailing wall street out for taking risks they should have and would have never taken if it were not for the fact that they know us tax payers will be responsible for their losses and mistakes?

seriously!

No I don't but I also didn't and still don't believe the taxpayer should have to subsidise the cost of other peoples insurance either but this bill funds Obamacare for the next fiscal year I'm sure we can all find something in it we don't like. Part of compromise is understanding your not going to get everything you want.

the RISK is too big to compromise on this Wall STREET Derivative FDIC backing, 100 times bigger and more costly than Obama care...

We don't know that because we don't know the full cost or impact of Obmacare as it has not been fully implemented yet but to date it has done little if any of what was promised and the cost have been more than advertised.

BS. Prices are coming DOWN in those states and areas cooperating. Sorry about dumbass red ones...

The PRICE of Obilacare....

Don't worry- thanks to Pubs and no good SS ID card, the illegals have insurance, and thanks to Obama, the legals will too...Welcome to reality...

 

[francoHFW]

There's nothing major at risk here. Shut it down.

Democrats Revolt Against Wall Street Giveaway In Deal To Prevent Government Shutdown

Irony of ironies...lib Dems tell Obabble to go fuck himself. Remember all the bs from a year ago about hostage taking? Now the foo is on the other shit....fucking hilarious.

is it a bad bill in your opinion? Or is it a good bill in your opinion?

When a bill pisses off both the right and the left that's usually a good thing.

Probably the best post to this point on this site. Excellent point.

Thanks to Pubs for finally growing up. Not the TP of course...

 

[blackhawk]

do you think us tax payers should really be responsible for bailing wall street out for taking risks they should have and would have never taken if it were not for the fact that they know us tax payers will be responsible for their losses and mistakes?

seriously!

No I don't but I also didn't and still don't believe the taxpayer should have to subsidise the cost of other peoples insurance either but this bill funds Obamacare for the next fiscal year I'm sure we can all find something in it we don't like. Part of compromise is understanding your not going to get everything you want.

they gave nothing up...even if we all agreed that Obamacare needed to go away, it CAN'T be shut down tomorrow and everything go back to where it was BEFORE Ocare...it will take at least a year, or two, to make it disappear. It has to be funded for this coming year, period...
people have already bought their insurance for next year, businesses have already committed to their insurance for next year... So there really is no compromise....

AND WHY OH WHY do Republicans and Democrats in the Senate too, WANT to insure derivatives that are risky and put this ON OUR SHOULDERS TO PAY?

WHY?

This is just plain wrong, for ALL OF US.

As I said earlier I don't support taxpayer bailouts not for Wall Street not for the banks didn't support the auto industry bailout. Obamacare as you may know faces a big Supreme court challenge over subsidises and the exchanges the law was written that you could only get a subisidised if you enrolled through a state exchange when states did not set up exchanges the administration then said you could get them through the federal exchange which was not written into the law. If the court rules you cant get the subsidises through the federal exchange that will increase the cost for a lot of people force many off the plan they have and cost the government a lot of the money it needs to support this thing and very possibily be it's demise.

 

[Judicial review]

There's nothing major at risk here. Shut it down.

Democrats Revolt Against Wall Street Giveaway In Deal To Prevent Government Shutdown

Irony of ironies...lib Dems tell Obabble to go fuck himself. Remember all the bs from a year ago about hostage taking? Now the foo is on the other shit....fucking hilarious.

is it a bad bill in your opinion? Or is it a good bill in your opinion?

When a bill pisses off both the right and the left that's usually a good thing.

Probably the best post to this point on this site. Excellent point.

Thanks to Pubs for finally growing up. Not the TP of course...

The GOP knew they would win the senate back in September. This was the plan all along. It's smart and the only way to pass bills to get them to Obamas desk to fuck the liberals to death. Nice of you to finally agree with the GOP, but i don't think you fully understand what's happening here. The consequences of the NOV elections.

 

[Judicial review]

do you think us tax payers should really be responsible for bailing wall street out for taking risks they should have and would have never taken if it were not for the fact that they know us tax payers will be responsible for their losses and mistakes?

seriously!

No I don't but I also didn't and still don't believe the taxpayer should have to subsidise the cost of other peoples insurance either but this bill funds Obamacare for the next fiscal year I'm sure we can all find something in it we don't like. Part of compromise is understanding your not going to get everything you want.

they gave nothing up...even if we all agreed that Obamacare needed to go away, it CAN'T be shut down tomorrow and everything go back to where it was BEFORE Ocare...it will take at least a year, or two, to make it disappear. It has to be funded for this coming year, period...
people have already bought their insurance for next year, businesses have already committed to their insurance for next year... So there really is no compromise....

AND WHY OH WHY do Republicans and Democrats in the Senate too, WANT to insure derivatives that are risky and put this ON OUR SHOULDERS TO PAY?

WHY?

This is just plain wrong, for ALL OF US.

As I said earlier I don't support taxpayer bailouts not for Wall Street not for the banks didn't support the auto industry bailout. Obamacare as you may know faces a big Supreme court challenge over subsidises and the exchanges the law was written that you could only get a subisidised if you enrolled through a state exchange when states did not set up exchanges the administration then said you could get them through the federal exchange which was not written into the law. If the court rules you cant get the subsidises through the federal exchange that will increase the cost for a lot of people force many off the plan they have and cost the government a lot of the money it needs to support this thing and very possibily be it's demise.

Exactly.

 

[Vigilante]

The bill passed, no sense speculating!

GOOD for the country and good, COMPROMISING, gov't. We have the Consumer Protection Agency to watch those a-hole Pub crony real estaters...but you have heard of the Senate, right? They will pass it though. Lots of adults there- although fewer in January. But it DOES look the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" (TIME) insanity is over for a while, and hopefully forever.

Still time for Cruz/Palin 2016! though, hater dupes. lol

Yes, we will still vote American....

Jeebus what a brainwashed tool....enjoy seeing the nonrich and the country ruined, and no doubt screwing up the world and and being a laughingstock horror AGAIN. Can you say ideological idiocy incompetence and bigotry...

what does this matter to you, you Limey scumbag? Take care of your own country for a change!

I'm as American as you are, ugly American Pub chump. Sorry about being educated and well traveled.

No, you're a slimey Limey, posting on an American board, as are the Euro-trash recently arrived!

 

[francoHFW]

Irony of ironies...lib Dems tell Obabble to go fuck himself. Remember all the bs from a year ago about hostage taking? Now the foo is on the other shit....fucking hilarious.

is it a bad bill in your opinion? Or is it a good bill in your opinion?

When a bill pisses off both the right and the left that's usually a good thing.

Probably the best post to this point on this site. Excellent point.

Thanks to Pubs for finally growing up. Not the TP of course...

The GOP knew they would win the senate back in September. This was the plan all along. It's smart and the only way to pass bills to get them to Obamas desk to fuck the liberals to death. Nice of you to finally agree with the GOP, but i don't think you fully understand what's happening here. The consequences of the NOV elections.

More disfunction and EOs. And more compromise I hope...all they actually care about is lower taxes and dereg. Won't happen. In 2016 22 Pubs senators are up, and Dems, youth and indies vote. If Pubs put up a RWer, they'll be crushed. Maybe anyway.

 

[francoHFW]

GOOD for the country and good, COMPROMISING, gov't. We have the Consumer Protection Agency to watch those a-hole Pub crony real estaters...but you have heard of the Senate, right? They will pass it though. Lots of adults there- although fewer in January. But it DOES look the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP" (TIME) insanity is over for a while, and hopefully forever.

Still time for Cruz/Palin 2016! though, hater dupes. lol

Yes, we will still vote American....

Jeebus what a brainwashed tool....enjoy seeing the nonrich and the country ruined, and no doubt screwing up the world and and being a laughingstock horror AGAIN. Can you say ideological idiocy incompetence and bigotry...

what does this matter to you, you Limey scumbag? Take care of your own country for a change!

I'm as American as you are, ugly American Pub chump. Sorry about being educated and well traveled.

No, you're a slimey Limey, posting on an American board, as are the Euro-trash recently arrived!

Sure. lol How 'bout those Sabres? 6 of 7, 8 of 11 after 3 and 13 start, worst in NHL last year.

 

[francoHFW]

Indian coach is good.

 

[Vigilante]

Yes, we will still vote American....

Jeebus what a brainwashed tool....enjoy seeing the nonrich and the country ruined, and no doubt screwing up the world and and being a laughingstock horror AGAIN. Can you say ideological idiocy incompetence and bigotry...

what does this matter to you, you Limey scumbag? Take care of your own country for a change!

I'm as American as you are, ugly American Pub chump. Sorry about being educated and well traveled.

No, you're a slimey Limey, posting on an American board, as are the Euro-trash recently arrived!

Sure. lol How 'bout those Sabres? 6 of 7, 8 of 11 after 3 and 13 start, worst in NHL last year.

Sportscenter.com......

 

[peach174]

What was bad is that it did not include Fannie and Freddie.There are exempt from the bill

Were NEVER the problem. Their share of the market went from 75% to 25% in 2003 when Booshie regulators let their pals run wild...change the gd channel, dupe.

They had proof that Freddie was doing illegal hedge fund trading.

AFTER a couple years, under Pub pressure.

During the Enron scandal.

Ridiculous.

Barney Frank was also in denial and he had the proof right in front of his face.

 

[depotoo]

You have really worn out the word dupe, may I suggest you use hornswoggle for awhile?


Did anyone see Pelosi and her faux outrage on the floor?

Yah, great, dumb ass dupe- ANOTHER 1%+ cost to the economy for another phony crisis. At least the adults seem to be be in charge, not the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP"- TIME.

It's the Dems who are doing the no compromise.
Pelosi is really upset with the President who did compromise.

Try some real news some time, dingbat dupe.

 

[Redfish]

You have really worn out the word dupe, may I suggest you use hornswoggle for awhile?


Did anyone see Pelosi and her faux outrage on the floor?

Yah, great, dumb ass dupe- ANOTHER 1%+ cost to the economy for another phony crisis. At least the adults seem to be be in charge, not the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP"- TIME.

It's the Dems who are doing the no compromise.
Pelosi is really upset with the President who did compromise.

Try some real news some time, dingbat dupe.

its really funny to watch the dems run from obama like rats from a sinking ship. But too bad dems, you picked the asshole, you supported his failed policies. He belongs to you 100%.
He has destroyed the dem party for the next 20 or 30 years, hope you fools are happy that you got the first black (er, half black) president because he has brought your party down.

 

[Care4all]

You have really worn out the word dupe, may I suggest you use hornswoggle for awhile?


Did anyone see Pelosi and her faux outrage on the floor?

Yah, great, dumb ass dupe- ANOTHER 1%+ cost to the economy for another phony crisis. At least the adults seem to be be in charge, not the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP"- TIME.

It's the Dems who are doing the no compromise.
Pelosi is really upset with the President who did compromise.

Try some real news some time, dingbat dupe.

its really funny to watch the dems run from obama like rats from a sinking ship. But too bad dems, you picked the asshole, you supported his failed policies. He belongs to you 100%.
He has destroyed the dem party for the next 20 or 30 years, hope you fools are happy that you got the first black (er, half black) president because he has brought your party down.

Bush jr. should have ruined your party for the next 50 years, but people have short memories...

I wouldn't bet on the 20 to 30 years...

 

[peach174]

You have really worn out the word dupe, may I suggest you use hornswoggle for awhile?


Did anyone see Pelosi and her faux outrage on the floor?

Yah, great, dumb ass dupe- ANOTHER 1%+ cost to the economy for another phony crisis. At least the adults seem to be be in charge, not the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP"- TIME.

It's the Dems who are doing the no compromise.
Pelosi is really upset with the President who did compromise.

Try some real news some time, dingbat dupe.

I did it was funny. What a drama queen. She should have chosen a carrier in acting.

 

[SwimExpert]

What was bad is that it did not include Fannie and Freddie.There are exempt from the bill

I think that's a valid issue for discussion. But it really doesn't have anything to do with the spending. It was just an rider slipped in on the back page.

 

[Redfish]

You have really worn out the word dupe, may I suggest you use hornswoggle for awhile?


Did anyone see Pelosi and her faux outrage on the floor?

Yah, great, dumb ass dupe- ANOTHER 1%+ cost to the economy for another phony crisis. At least the adults seem to be be in charge, not the "no compromise, un-American TP GOP"- TIME.

It's the Dems who are doing the no compromise.
Pelosi is really upset with the President who did compromise.

Try some real news some time, dingbat dupe.

its really funny to watch the dems run from obama like rats from a sinking ship. But too bad dems, you picked the asshole, you supported his failed policies. He belongs to you 100%.
He has destroyed the dem party for the next 20 or 30 years, hope you fools are happy that you got the first black (er, half black) president because he has brought your party down.

Bush jr. should have ruined your party for the next 50 years, but people have short memories...

I wouldn't bet on the 20 to 30 years...

The difference between Bush and Obama is that even though they both made some stupid mistakes, Bush is an American who loves this country. Obama hates America and everything it stands for. He is determined to punish it for slavery and its successes. He wants the USA brought down to the level of a european socialist country.

and yes, he has destroyed the dem party for the next several election cycles. Americans do not like being continually lied to by the person sitting in the whitehouse.