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Dude, you need to just hit reply and type. If you want to delete the chain then learn how the quote tags work[/QUOTE]im not denying any of that. That’s not what we are talking about. Claim was that we were at war with Iran. That’s fake news bullshit. Why are you trying to spin and justify it?
You never answered...Just who here is claiming we are at war with Iran. Do you have a quote from someone so we all can see WTF you are talking about?
Come on, put it down....Look all you have to do is provide 1 quote to support your clam...just 1 quote.
You claimed Iran was more powerful today than when Trump came into office. You have yet to back that up.sanctions lead to war. when someone has no one left to burn, they have no choice but to set themselves on fire!This administration's Iran policy has been a disaster from the moment Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. Iran is more powerful today than at the beginning of the Trump administration.
Is Iran more powerful today than at the beginning of the Obama administration?
They've dropped from a 14th most powerful military ranking a few years ago to 21st. The sanctions have been effective.
It doesn’t make a lot of sense but its the reasoning the admin is going with which is why I think the intel needs to be made publicThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
Billy_Kinetta and toobfreak both made the claim that we’ve been at war with Iran since 1979, then Another slew of geniuses jumped in to defend that position... yourself included when you said, and I quote,im not denying any of that. That’s not what we are talking about. Claim was that we were at war with Iran. That’s fake news bullshit. Why are you trying to spin and justify it?
After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder
i dont need to. its obvious in itselfYou claimed Iran was more powerful today than when Trump came into office. You have yet to back that up.sanctions lead to war. when someone has no one left to burn, they have no choice but to set themselves on fire!This administration's Iran policy has been a disaster from the moment Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. Iran is more powerful today than at the beginning of the Trump administration.
Is Iran more powerful today than at the beginning of the Obama administration?
They've dropped from a 14th most powerful military ranking a few years ago to 21st. The sanctions have been effective.
After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder followed by vows of revenge by Iran, we are apparently on the brink of war. At this point it seems obvious that we need to go public with the intel we have showing the imminent attack that was being planned against Americans.
This intel should clearly show the world that Soleimani was a clear and present danger and we had no choice but to go outside of protocol and assassinate him. Do you agree? Thoughts?
It don’t make a lot of sense but it the reasoning the admin is going with which is why I think the intel needs to be made publicThe imminent attack excuse does not make sense. This man was a general in charge of a large international operation. Killing him does practically nothing to stop any ongoing operation that we can assume was handled through whatever command structure that exists. They are lying. Someone else will be promoted to his position and Iran has a new martyr to rally around. You can't kill martyrs.
NOPE
There’s lots of “intelligence” the public should never be privy to. If filthy LefTards will feel fucked off by the Trump admin for not sharing this bit of intel my bet is he won’t release it.
nyetsanctions lead to war. when someone has no one left to burn, they have no choice but to set themselves on fire!This administration's Iran policy has been a disaster from the moment Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. Iran is more powerful today than at the beginning of the Trump administration.
Is Iran more powerful today than at the beginning of the Obama administration?
They've dropped from a 14th most powerful military ranking a few years ago to 21st. The sanctions have been effective.
sanctions lead to war.
Is that why Obama put sanctions on Russia?
That Madcow dude told him about it.After watching the public reaction to Soleimani’s murder
Where did you see "the public's reaction"?
Your lies have been exposed.i dont need to. its obvious in itselfYou claimed Iran was more powerful today than when Trump came into office. You have yet to back that up.sanctions lead to war. when someone has no one left to burn, they have no choice but to set themselves on fire!This administration's Iran policy has been a disaster from the moment Trump pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal. Iran is more powerful today than at the beginning of the Trump administration.
Is Iran more powerful today than at the beginning of the Obama administration?
They've dropped from a 14th most powerful military ranking a few years ago to 21st. The sanctions have been effective.
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how can you claim we are at war but not on the brink of war?
im not denying any of that. That’s not what we are talking about. Claim was that we were at war with Iran. That’s fake news bullshit. Why are you trying to spin and justify it?[\quote]
Billy_Kinetta and toobfreak both made the claim that we’ve been at war with Iran since 1979, then Another slew of geniuses jumped in to defend that position... yourself included when you said, and I quote,
“Iran has been at war with US. Now we have a President actually defending America against Iran's aggression instead of apologizing, making bad deals with them and sending them money as Obama did.”
Care to show me any historical record of Iran's war against the US? Cause I can show you record of us in a war against ISIL where we were on the same side as Iran. Ok, now your done, go take a nap.
List of wars involving Iran - Wikipedia
There you go Leo123 billy is back to defend his stupidity. So in his warped mind Iran is at war with us and while at war they signed a nuclear deal to allow us to inspect their labs and then while at war with us they allied with us in a war against ISIL. Have fun defending that genius narrativeThey’ve attacked us/allies numerous times and no I don’t think they’ve been peaceful since 79. See that how you answer questions. Care to answer mine?So for the record you’re also on board with thinking we’ve been at war with Iran for the past 40 years? Just wanna hear you say itSo then they made a nuclear deal with a country they were at war with? How does that make sense?
So then they made a nuclear deal with a country they were at war with? How does that make sense?
Money for nothin'
How many times have they attacked us or our allies?
Do you think they've been peaceful and just kept to themselves since 1979?
do you really believe that we’ve been at war with Iran since 1979? That’s a simple yes or no
Iran declared war on the United States. We have not yet reciprocated.
Agreed, you are out of your league. Bye byeSorry. I can't deal with this level of stupidity.What’s the point? They chant death to America? So what are you saying that means?Point? That is the point.What about it? Do you have a point?Death to America?No smart guy your dead wrong. We’ve had continuous conflicts with Iran but not war. The only recent war we’ve been involved in with Iran was against ISIL and they were on our side. Learn your history
They didn’t sign it, Dummy.There you go Leo123 billy is back to defend his stupidity. So in his warped mind Iran is at war with us and while at war they signed a nuclear deal to allow us to inspect their labs and then while at war with us they allied with us in a war against ISIL. Have fun defending that genius narrativeThey’ve attacked us/allies numerous times and no I don’t think they’ve been peaceful since 79. See that how you answer questions. Care to answer mine?So for the record you’re also on board with thinking we’ve been at war with Iran for the past 40 years? Just wanna hear you say itSo then they made a nuclear deal with a country they were at war with? How does that make sense?
Money for nothin'
How many times have they attacked us or our allies?
Do you think they've been peaceful and just kept to themselves since 1979?
do you really believe that we’ve been at war with Iran since 1979? That’s a simple yes or no
Iran declared war on the United States. We have not yet reciprocated.
Oh that’s where I’m confused. It’s not a war war it’s an asymmetric war. Thanks for. It spinning! Hahaim not denying any of that. That’s not what we are talking about. Claim was that we were at war with Iran. That’s fake news bullshit. Why are you trying to spin and justify it?Acts of war? Maybe... just as much as drone bombing a general, I guess... but that wasn’t our debate. Multiple people here are trying to claim that we’ve been at war with Iran since 1979 and you jumped in defending that ridiculous claim. Now you’re hedging.You think political chants are the same thing as a declaration of war? Are you nuts? You really think we’ve been at war with Iran for 40 years?? Little surprises me any more on this board but this ones got me
No I think their actions of sponsoring terrorist over the last 40 years, against the US and our allies and being responsible for countless thousands of deaths and injuries, speaks to the intent behind the chants. Iran supplied shaped charge IEDs to our enemies that were directly responsible for 608 US deaths and thousands of injuries. Tell me those are not acts of war.
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Hedging, BS. The islamist have been killing US citizens and our allies for the last 40 years, either directly or by paying and arming proxies. That was Soleimani's sole purpose, paying and arming proxies, Hezbollah are nothing but paid mercs for Iran.
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No spin, an asymmetric war, is a war, are you denying that? Iran knows better than engage in a full out conventional war, that would spell their end.
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Agreed, you are out of your league. Bye byeSorry. I can't deal with this level of stupidity.What’s the point? They chant death to America? So what are you saying that means?Point? That is the point.What about it? Do you have a point?Death to America?
Billy_Kinetta and toobfreak both made the claim that we’ve been at war with Iran since 1979, then Another slew of geniuses jumped in to defend that position... yourself included when you said, and I quote,im not denying any of that. That’s not what we are talking about. Claim was that we were at war with Iran. That’s fake news bullshit. Why are you trying to spin and justify it?
“Iran has been at war with US. Now we have a President actually defending America against Iran's aggression instead of apologizing, making bad deals with them and sending them money as Obama did.”
Care to show me any historical record of Iran's war against the US? Cause I can show you record of us in a war against ISIL where we were on the same side as Iran. Ok, now your done, go take a nap.
List of wars involving Iran - Wikipedia
