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Yeah according to him, it's a small percentage, those "Moderate" Muslisms...he's a reality denierI would rather see things improve than have wingers making them even worse by pointing the finger and refusing hold their tribe accountable.To me, Lesh started a thread that has a pretty clear message. Your post on tactics to deflect and minimize problems, used by both sides, is accurate, but not on point. So I asked you to say where you stand on the issue and all I get back is more criticism of partisan games but not an answer to the question.
If you don't want to answer it, fine.
I'm fine with being in the minority here on that.
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What is my tribe? I denounce extremism from Islamic nutbags, but stand in strong defense of peaceful Muslims. name my tribe.
Name one "peaceful" mostly Islamic country please.
Why? That has nothing to do with what I have said.
Do you know any Muslims personally?
Yes. Several. All in arranged marriages, all treat women as 2nd class citizens. Cool with me as I am man but if I were a woman they would not converse with me. And it has to do with everything. Every place where your "peaceful" Moslems are the majority is a major disaster area in terms of humanitarian values. How do you explain that?
Yeah according to him, it's a small percentage, those "Moderate" Muslisms...he's a reality denierI would rather see things improve than have wingers making them even worse by pointing the finger and refusing hold their tribe accountable.
I'm fine with being in the minority here on that.
.
What is my tribe? I denounce extremism from Islamic nutbags, but stand in strong defense of peaceful Muslims. name my tribe.
Name one "peaceful" mostly Islamic country please.
Why? That has nothing to do with what I have said.
Do you know any Muslims personally?
Yes. Several. All in arranged marriages, all treat women as 2nd class citizens. Cool with me as I am man but if I were a woman they would not converse with me. And it has to do with everything. Every place where your "peaceful" Moslems are the majority is a major disaster area in terms of humanitarian values. How do you explain that?
Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the otherTo me, Lesh started a thread that has a pretty clear message. Your post on tactics to deflect and minimize problems, used by both sides, is accurate, but not on point. So I asked you to say where you stand on the issue and all I get back is more criticism of partisan games but not an answer to the question.Here we go again. You just "liked" a post of mine that clearly pointed out what BOTH ends do, and then you try that.But do you? Do you hear what Lesh said or is it just another opportunity to do your fence sitting, Mac?This is what happens after every attack on Muslims. Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject.Sure looks like they are...and NONE of you are condemning this horror.
And then when Muslims attack, the Left deflects by comparing jihadists to Christians ("The Crusades!"), offering only the most pedestrian of criticisms of Islam.
Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject. Opposite sides of the same coin.
And neither end "sees" it.
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I don't need to belong to a tribe. If you do, that's not my problem.
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If you don't want to answer it, fine.
Actually Old Lady Mac is not sitting on the fence but what it is you want Mac to either agree or disagree with you.
Here is the simple fact Lesh message came out when a radical attacked a Mosque while staying silent when radicals blew up New York, Boston and shot up Orlando.
If you want it to be fair and honest both sides should think long and hard why they hate each other and why those like Mac sit on the fence.
Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other while pretending you are pointing your finger at all sides.
So do you agree both sides are wrong or will you do a but when you answer?
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Another straw man. I didn't say I "have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech".#3, #4, and #5 from my list in post 349.I sure am up in their heads.
Hmmm...the issue is that Lush started a thread regarding deadly attacks in New Zealand, and instead of attempting to open that discussion quickly decides it's due to hate speech, and in the same breath feels we are responsible and could have stopped the attacks.
I think he said something about stopping the hate speech in his OP. I don't see an issue with that. You and Mac probably think it has something to do with political correctness because you're incurious morons.
You people literally can't help yourselves.
Thank you.
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RIght, buddy. I don't care about your list. Let's talk about your beef with the OP. Why do you have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech? Like you know, calling for murder.
You don't even realize how well you're illustrating my point, do you?
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This was your reply:
Hate speech is fueling this from BOTH ends.
Stop screaming ISLAMOPHOBE, stop ATTACKING any time anyone dares to point out problems in that religion.
Part of this is frustration over that kind of deflection. It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel. IT JUST MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE.
It blows my mind that something this obvious doesn't occur to you.
You seemed to have missed the OPs point, or at least perverted it. Instead of actually having a dialogue with the OP, perhaps asking to define what hate speech was you went ahead and told him to stop attacking others who are critical of hate speech because of course....both sides. Fucking idiot, it's not both sides calling for the death, murder or denouncing an entire race or religion as being inherently less than others. Because you can't get your own bothsiderism argument out of your head
And, of all days you do this today? .
I would rather see things improve than have wingers making them even worse by pointing the finger and refusing hold their tribe accountable.To me, Lesh started a thread that has a pretty clear message. Your post on tactics to deflect and minimize problems, used by both sides, is accurate, but not on point. So I asked you to say where you stand on the issue and all I get back is more criticism of partisan games but not an answer to the question.
If you don't want to answer it, fine.
I'm fine with being in the minority here on that.
.
What is my tribe? I denounce extremism from Islamic nutbags, but stand in strong defense of peaceful Muslims. name my tribe.
Name one "peaceful" mostly Islamic country please.
Why? That has nothing to do with what I have said.
Do you know any Muslims personally?
Yes. Several. All in arranged marriages, all treat women as 2nd class citizens. Cool with me as I am man but if I were a woman they would not converse with me. And it has to do with everything. Every place where your "peaceful" Moslems are the majority is a major disaster area in terms of humanitarian values. How do you explain that?
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Another straw man. I didn't say I "have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech".#3, #4, and #5 from my list in post 349.I think he said something about stopping the hate speech in his OP. I don't see an issue with that. You and Mac probably think it has something to do with political correctness because you're incurious morons.
You people literally can't help yourselves.
Thank you.
.
RIght, buddy. I don't care about your list. Let's talk about your beef with the OP. Why do you have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech? Like you know, calling for murder.
You don't even realize how well you're illustrating my point, do you?
.
This was your reply:
Hate speech is fueling this from BOTH ends.
Stop screaming ISLAMOPHOBE, stop ATTACKING any time anyone dares to point out problems in that religion.
Part of this is frustration over that kind of deflection. It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel. IT JUST MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE.
It blows my mind that something this obvious doesn't occur to you.
You seemed to have missed the OPs point, or at least perverted it. Instead of actually having a dialogue with the OP, perhaps asking to define what hate speech was you went ahead and told him to stop attacking others who are critical of hate speech because of course....both sides. Fucking idiot, it's not both sides calling for the death, murder or denouncing an entire race or religion as being inherently less than others. Because you can't get your own bothsiderism argument out of your head
And, of all days you do this today? .
RW USMB NUTBAG: Nuke Mecca! I agree with the shooter! We must exterminate all Muslims.
LW USMB NORMAL: That is hate speech. I condemn your calling for violence. You should not call for the death of
all Muslims for the horrendous acts of a few. That is basically Islamophobia.
Mac1958: This REGRESSIVE LEFTY is attacking someone who is simply pointing out flaws in Islam!! This is how
REGRESSIVES cause more violence!
Fuck you. This is looong over due. May many more be yet to come. Drive these sand devil pieces of shit back to the desert where they belong.Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost
It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.
This has to stop.
How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?
We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.
STOP people. Stop the hate speech.
NOW
Fuck you. This is looong over due. May many more be yet to come. Drive these sand devil pieces of shit back to the desert where they belong.Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost
It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.
This has to stop.
How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?
We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.
STOP people. Stop the hate speech.
NOW
Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the otherTo me, Lesh started a thread that has a pretty clear message. Your post on tactics to deflect and minimize problems, used by both sides, is accurate, but not on point. So I asked you to say where you stand on the issue and all I get back is more criticism of partisan games but not an answer to the question.Here we go again. You just "liked" a post of mine that clearly pointed out what BOTH ends do, and then you try that.But do you? Do you hear what Lesh said or is it just another opportunity to do your fence sitting, Mac?This is what happens after every attack on Muslims. Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject.
And then when Muslims attack, the Left deflects by comparing jihadists to Christians ("The Crusades!"), offering only the most pedestrian of criticisms of Islam.
Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject. Opposite sides of the same coin.
And neither end "sees" it.
.
I don't need to belong to a tribe. If you do, that's not my problem.
.
If you don't want to answer it, fine.
Actually Old Lady Mac is not sitting on the fence but what it is you want Mac to either agree or disagree with you.
Here is the simple fact Lesh message came out when a radical attacked a Mosque while staying silent when radicals blew up New York, Boston and shot up Orlando.
If you want it to be fair and honest both sides should think long and hard why they hate each other and why those like Mac sit on the fence.
Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other while pretending you are pointing your finger at all sides.
So do you agree both sides are wrong or will you do a but when you answer?
How else do we condemn the hate which is generalized to an entire group of people based on their religion? Should we ignore it so that no one on the right gets upset? What do we do, Bruce? You tell me.
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Another straw man. I didn't say I "have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech".#3, #4, and #5 from my list in post 349.I think he said something about stopping the hate speech in his OP. I don't see an issue with that. You and Mac probably think it has something to do with political correctness because you're incurious morons.
You people literally can't help yourselves.
Thank you.
.
RIght, buddy. I don't care about your list. Let's talk about your beef with the OP. Why do you have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech? Like you know, calling for murder.
You don't even realize how well you're illustrating my point, do you?
.
This was your reply:
Hate speech is fueling this from BOTH ends.
Stop screaming ISLAMOPHOBE, stop ATTACKING any time anyone dares to point out problems in that religion.
Part of this is frustration over that kind of deflection. It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel. IT JUST MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE.
It blows my mind that something this obvious doesn't occur to you.
You seemed to have missed the OPs point, or at least perverted it. Instead of actually having a dialogue with the OP, perhaps asking to define what hate speech was you went ahead and told him to stop attacking others who are critical of hate speech because of course....both sides. Fucking idiot, it's not both sides calling for the death, murder or denouncing an entire race or religion as being inherently less than others. Because you can't get your own bothsiderism argument out of your head
And, of all days you do this today? .
RW USMB NUTBAG: Nuke Mecca! I agree with the shooter! We must exterminate all Muslims.
LW USMB NORMAL: That is hate speech. I condemn your calling for violence. You should not call for the death of
all Muslims for the horrendous acts of a few. That is basically Islamophobia.
Mac1958: This REGRESSIVE LEFTY is attacking someone who is simply pointing out flaws in Islam!! This is how
REGRESSIVES cause more violence!
Happily! From post 5:Fuck you. This is looong over due. May many more be yet to come. Drive these sand devil pieces of shit back to the desert where they belong.Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost
It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.
This has to stop.
How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?
We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.
STOP people. Stop the hate speech.
NOW
Hey Mac1958, comment?
Now calling for violence.When cucks get off the internet and do something about it - as opposed to politicians and citizens in actual border towns even arguing with each other if it's a problem.I don't think you're functionally reasonable.You angry old men are pathetic, seriously....you really think you're being invaded and your reaction is to sit your ass on the internet like any other day and just talk about it.When the muslim hordes arrive, GT will be found wearing a turban and washing camel balls,
What makes you think that’s all we’re doing?
What’s worse...sitting your ass on the internet bitching about being invaded or sitting your fat ass on the internet defending the invaders?
I'm not defending any invader - I'm saying there isn't one. That was already spelled out for you, future-shooter.
Thanks for the address, that’s very flattering.
So with 12-40 million illegals present, as much as 1/3 of our population present by illegal means, $22 trillion in debt, a middle class that can’t save a penny or afford healthcare, a cultural divide never seen before, politicians spending most of their time working for illegal foreigners, Veterans sleeping, pissing, shitting and dying in our streets we don’t have an invasion affecting the workings of this once great nation?
At what point will you twisted fucks consider it an invasion?
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Another straw man. I didn't say I "have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech".#3, #4, and #5 from my list in post 349.
You people literally can't help yourselves.
Thank you.
.
RIght, buddy. I don't care about your list. Let's talk about your beef with the OP. Why do you have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech? Like you know, calling for murder.
You don't even realize how well you're illustrating my point, do you?
.
This was your reply:
Hate speech is fueling this from BOTH ends.
Stop screaming ISLAMOPHOBE, stop ATTACKING any time anyone dares to point out problems in that religion.
Part of this is frustration over that kind of deflection. It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel. IT JUST MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE.
It blows my mind that something this obvious doesn't occur to you.
You seemed to have missed the OPs point, or at least perverted it. Instead of actually having a dialogue with the OP, perhaps asking to define what hate speech was you went ahead and told him to stop attacking others who are critical of hate speech because of course....both sides. Fucking idiot, it's not both sides calling for the death, murder or denouncing an entire race or religion as being inherently less than others. Because you can't get your own bothsiderism argument out of your head
And, of all days you do this today? .
RW USMB NUTBAG: Nuke Mecca! I agree with the shooter! We must exterminate all Muslims.
LW USMB NORMAL: That is hate speech. I condemn your calling for violence. You should not call for the death of
all Muslims for the horrendous acts of a few. That is basically Islamophobia.
Mac1958: This REGRESSIVE LEFTY is attacking someone who is simply pointing out flaws in Islam!! This is how
REGRESSIVES cause more violence!
Lone Laughter:
Christian's deserve it and caused all the chaos in the world... Praise Allah...
If you are going to troll at least be funny!
September 1st, 2001.Up until this, only muslims have been engaged in mass murder. Just off hand, Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, Boston, San Bernardino puts hundreds of victims of muslim violence out there. Notice how no one tells muslims to stop the hate. Nor would they. The whole idea of telling muslims to stop the hate is too ridiculous to even entertain.Do you ever stop with your BS? Both sides have their own hate to bear.
Both sides...ARE NOT engaging in mass murder.
Just STOP.
But you can't...sadly
It was time to stop the hateful rhetoric against Muslims long before this terrorist attack.
Wrong.Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost
It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.
This has to stop.
How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?
We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.
STOP people. Stop the hate speech.
NOW
Speech is not violence. Please name one mostly Moslem country that is not a humanitarian, economic or military disaster. You cannot. Maybe the real problem is staring people in the face and they cannot face it? Possible?
Did you liberoidal asswipes stop smearing and slandering conservatives, libertarians, and Trump when Rand Paul was attacked?...When Steve Scalise was shot?Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost
It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.
This has to stop.
How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?
We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.
STOP people. Stop the hate speech.
NOW
